Have the players tuned out Stevens?

[jpotter33]

Finally someone else sees what's happening.

https://twitter.com/BillSimmons/status/1065439572564180997?s=19

I bet if Kyrie sat for 10 games you'd see an entirely different team.

Lol. Hilarious. We definitely would be different, we'd go 0-10!

Trying to blame Kyrie for what is going on with this team right now doesn't make basketball sense. That's purely a poster who just doesn't like the player.

No I like Kyrie but you'll are caught up in him getting buckets. The ball doesn't move as well when Kyrie is in the game.

Um, you realize he had 13 assists tonight, right, his Celtics career high?

[gouki88]

Finally someone else sees what's happening.

https://twitter.com/BillSimmons/status/1065439572564180997?s=19

I bet if Kyrie sat for 10 games you'd see an entirely different team.

Lol. Hilarious. We definitely would be different, we'd go 0-10!

Trying to blame Kyrie for what is going on with this team right now doesn't make basketball sense. That's purely a poster who just doesn't like the player.

No I like Kyrie but you'll are caught up in him getting buckets. The ball doesn't move as well when Kyrie is in the game.

Um, you realize he had 13 assists tonight, right, his Celtics career high?

Facts haven't gotten in the way of his arguments before, so I wouldn't start expecting them to now

[Boston Garden Leprechaun]

you mean turned against him ?



really doubt that .

Only Mook and Irving and sometimes Tatum are  playing at the level of last years squad.

Rozier is awful .   Brown is lost


Al izzzzzz getting older . 


I feel like Charlie Brown when Lucy pulls the football ,   such a let down .

we got away with all those OUTSIDE JAYS for years under brad but now u people see what i menat

when those go cold u need inside scoring!

play inside out regardless

brad drives me nuts

but it is not his fault they are not hitting wide open 3's.

especially when we WENT to rim last two games.

the team takes too many kickouts

the D is gone

many things broken

[KGBirdBias]

Ok good he had 13 assist. I'm not blaming Kyrie for everything but he's the man and the man has to take responsibility when the team is underachieving. Maybe he should have a mentality to get other guys going first and not take so many tough shots.

Its about being a leader, not empty calorie stats.

[Jiri Welsch]

Ok good he had 13 assist. I'm not blaming Kyrie for everything but he's the man and the man has to take responsibility when the team is underachieving. Maybe he should have a mentality to get other guys going first and not take so many tough shots.

Its about being a leader, not empty calorie stats.

Kyrie isn’t the issue.

[RJ87]

Finally someone else sees what's happening.

https://twitter.com/BillSimmons/status/1065439572564180997?s=19

I bet if Kyrie sat for 10 games you'd see an entirely different team.

Lol. Hilarious. We definitely would be different, we'd go 0-10!

Trying to blame Kyrie for what is going on with this team right now doesn't make basketball sense. That's purely a poster who just doesn't like the player.

No I like Kyrie but you'll are caught up in him getting buckets. The ball doesn't move as well when Kyrie is in the game.

Um, you realize he had 13 assists tonight, right, his Celtics career high?

Facts haven't gotten in the way of his arguments before, so I wouldn't start expecting them to now

Exactly. At some point you can't debate with irrational posters. How many times did Kyrie get Brown the ball at the rim tonight? Meanwhile, Tatum has averaged .5  assists over his past six games, but Kyrie is the problem.

[SCeltic34]

Kyrie's been one of the few bright spots this season in my opinion.  He had selfish stretches and inefficient shooting tonight, but overall this season he's had a solid balance of scoring and getting others involved.  And while he'll never be a great defender, his effort on the defensive end has been both good and consistent.

Stevens on the other hand has a lot to figure out.  He's a good coach but he's done a poor job so far this season.  Bad rotations, micromanaging his players and their minutes, poor in game decision making, lack of adjustments offensively and defensively, and quite a bit more.  Heck even his ATO plays haven't been as good this season.  Why draw up a 3 point shot when we've been ice cold all game (or pretty much all season?). 

We'll turn it around.  Too much talent on this team not to.  But it starts with Brad doing a better job.  And of course it would help if our players would actually make some of their open shots.

[Moranis]

Finally someone else sees what's happening.

https://twitter.com/BillSimmons/status/1065439572564180997?s=19

I bet if Kyrie sat for 10 games you'd see an entirely different team.

Lol. Hilarious. We definitely would be different, we'd go 0-10!

you mean like last year when Boston had essentially the same win percentage without Irving.  I really don't understand the love affair with Irving.  His value isn't nearly what most of this board thinks it is

That said he wasn't the problem in the Knicks game. Brown is the problem and has been all season long

[gouki88]

Finally someone else sees what's happening.

https://twitter.com/BillSimmons/status/1065439572564180997?s=19

I bet if Kyrie sat for 10 games you'd see an entirely different team.

Lol. Hilarious. We definitely would be different, we'd go 0-10!

you mean like last year when Boston had essentially the same win percentage without Irving.  I really don't understand the love affair with Irving.  His value isn't nearly what most of this board thinks it is

I forgot that all our other players were playing as well as they were last year! Oh wait, they're completely incomparable.

[KGBirdBias]

 I would explore trading Irving if this doesn't get fixed over the next 20 games.

I just think Smart and Rozier are dogs and their effort is what ignites the fire. Rozier blossomed when he was running the show and the ball moved. He's not playing well now but he plays better when he knows when he's going to play.

Get as much as you can for Irving if it comes to that. Sorry if that doesn't a sit right with some people. We saw the cohesiveness last year in the playoffs.

Why the hell can't William's be playing now? This makes no sense.

[gouki88]

I would explore trading Irving if this doesn't get fixed over the next 20 games.

I just think Smart and Rozier are dogs and their effort is what ignites the fire. Rozier blossomed when he was running the show and the ball moved. He's not playing well now but he plays better when he knows when he's going to play.

Get as much as you can for Irving if it comes to that. Sorry if that doesn't a sit right with some people. We saw the cohesiveness last year in the playoffs.

Why the hell can't William's be playing now? This makes no sense.

Lol. What a surprise! You want to trade our best performer, who is on an expiring contract (ie low value)? Ridiculous notion

[SparzWizard]

I would explore trading Irving if this doesn't get fixed over the next 20 games.

I just think Smart and Rozier are dogs and their effort is what ignites the fire. Rozier blossomed when he was running the show and the ball moved. He's not playing well now but he plays better when he knows when he's going to play.

Get as much as you can for Irving if it comes to that. Sorry if that doesn't a sit right with some people. We saw the cohesiveness last year in the playoffs.

Why the hell can't William's be playing now? This makes no sense.

Lol. What a surprise! You want to trade our best performer, who is on an expiring contract (ie low value)? Ridiculous notion

You mean we gave up Sexton Collin, Jae Crowder, Isaiah Thomas, Ante Zizic, and a second-rounder just to get rid of Kyrie Irving....

[tarheelsxxiii]

I would explore trading Irving if this doesn't get fixed over the next 20 games.

I just think Smart and Rozier are dogs and their effort is what ignites the fire. Rozier blossomed when he was running the show and the ball moved. He's not playing well now but he plays better when he knows when he's going to play.

Get as much as you can for Irving if it comes to that. Sorry if that doesn't a sit right with some people. We saw the cohesiveness last year in the playoffs.

Why the hell can't William's be playing now? This makes no sense.

Lol. What a surprise! You want to trade our best performer, who is on an expiring contract (ie low value)? Ridiculous notion

You mean we gave up Sexton Collin, Jae Crowder, Isaiah Thomas, Ante Zizic, and a second-rounder just to get rid of Kyrie Irving....

Collin Sexton, who looks good.  Or either of the Bridges. 

If Kyrie is a superstar as so many here maintain (top 10 player, even), then there is no one else to blame for our poor start, especially in the context of last year's playoffs (for us and the Cavs).

[gouki88]

I would explore trading Irving if this doesn't get fixed over the next 20 games.

I just think Smart and Rozier are dogs and their effort is what ignites the fire. Rozier blossomed when he was running the show and the ball moved. He's not playing well now but he plays better when he knows when he's going to play.

Get as much as you can for Irving if it comes to that. Sorry if that doesn't a sit right with some people. We saw the cohesiveness last year in the playoffs.

Why the hell can't William's be playing now? This makes no sense.

Lol. What a surprise! You want to trade our best performer, who is on an expiring contract (ie low value)? Ridiculous notion

You mean we gave up Sexton Collin, Jae Crowder, Isaiah Thomas, Ante Zizic, and a second-rounder just to get rid of Kyrie Irving....

Collin Sexton, who looks good.  Or either of the Bridges. 

If Kyrie is a superstar as so many here maintain (top 10 player, even), then there is no one else to blame for our poor start, especially in the context of last year's playoffs (for us and the Cavs).

Lol. How can you post that with a straight face, when JB, JT, Rozier, Al, Hayward & Smart have all performed well below expectations. Not to mention coaching

[KGBirdBias]

Why are most people so scared to criticize Kyrie for this bad start? Maybe just maybe he's not a good leader. I enjoy his points and flashy plays but there is more to winning than that.