Anthony Davis traded to Lakers(page 272)

[Monkhouse]

Out of every one in that offer, who do you think could become a star?

Ingram? Kuzma? Ball?

Jury is definitely out on Ball.. If he was destined to be a star, he would've been putting up better numbers than whatever trashy numbers he's coughing out now. Sure, Ingram/Kuzma are averaging over 16 PPG, but FG %, TS%, they all rank average. 3P% definitely plays a huge factor, also Ingram isn't even hitting over 70% clip on his FT's.. Don't get me started on Ball's...

Sure, in the off-chance they become the prototypical high scoring, low efficiency type of player like Melo.

[fairweatherfan]

Anthony davis comments on boston in 2017.. HE DOES NOT WANT TO COME HERE. PLEASE DONT TRADE TATUM FOR THIS GUY!!!!

https://celticswire.usatoday.com/2017/12/19/anthony-davis-boston-celtics-trade-pursuit-isaiah-thomas-new-orleans-pelicans/



"But in an interview with ESPN’s Adrian Wojnarowski, Davis discussed the Celtics’ pursuit for his services last season and how his feelings about his place in New Orleans have evolved since the Isaiah Thomas trade.

“He told me that [Boston] was calling, but nothing was going to happen,” Davis said of Pelicans GM Dell Demps. “At the same time, though, you see how organizations treat players. Isaiah Thomas. DeMarcus [Cousins] told me that the [Kings] told him that he wasn’t going to get traded, but they traded him. Isaiah took his team to the Eastern Conference Finals, and they traded him.


“It makes you wonder: Does this organization really have my back? I’ve been loyal to this organization. I love it here. I love this team. I think we’re moving in the right direction. DeMarcus, [Rajon] Rondo, some other players that are helping us, but people get judged on winning. And I want to win.”

It is pretty ironic he is calling out the Kings and Celtics for trading their players before their contracts were up, but is demanding a trade before his contract is up after saying the organization was moving in the right direction last year?

This is kind of a side-track but I am surprised that players are down on the Celtics because they traded Isaiah Thomas.  They traded him to the Cavs to play with LeBron for a title.  They traded him for Kyrie Irving.  Do players really want the Celtics to not trade for Kyrie just because Isaiah is a really good guy?

I love Isaiah.  He had a generationally good year.  The Celtics sold high and got Kyrie ****g Irving and Davis is down on the Celtics for that?  What should be the code?  If a player has a good year for a team and the player is really likable , then the team can never trade him, even for one of the best players in the league?

We aren't getting Davis for a number of reasons which is too bad.  He is a great player.  Our team would be great with Davis and Kyrie.   Maybe Davis should go to Denver and play with Isaiah and see if that is better than playing with Kyrie in Boston.

I think a big part of the offense is less that he got traded and more that the end result was him not getting paid. We're the only team perceived as owing him, and with cause. But that's business.

[tstorey_97]

The last offer really sounds like Jive. Just media make up.

What the he*& does Demps want the entire Lakers line up for? He has to sell tickets and hope to his fanbase.

So Rondo, Lebron and Davis were going to knock off Golden State. In what universe?

Generational player (horse) = bunch of ponies

He has to try and get a legit star to save face...he is losing a top 5 player. I don't want him to, but, at least this year's #1 overall is something he can sell to the fans.

[SHAQATTACK]

Out of every one in that offer, who do you think could become a star?

Ingram? Kuzma? Ball?

Jury is definitely out on Ball.. If he was destined to be a star, he would've been putting up better numbers than whatever trashy numbers he's coughing out now. Sure, Ingram/Kuzma are averaging over 16 PPG, but FG %, TS%, they all rank average. 3P% definitely plays a huge factor, also Ingram isn't even hitting over 70% clip on his FT's.. Don't get me started on Ball's...

Sure, in the off-chance they become the prototypical high scoring, low efficiency type of player like Melo.

meh....none are stars to my eye.  Ball needs to get on another. team , Lebron runs every play .  Ball needs to be on a team where he control the flow , maybe he raises his game on a different team. He has unique skills , but its going to,take the right situation.  Anywhere Bron is ...is nowhere for anybody to develop thise skills in game. 

I like Hart for a long time journeyman career ,not an allstar 

[BringToughnessBack]

Thursday am, the phone rings..."Hello, This is Magic..we will give you the 8 number 1 unprotected picks plus everyone that was mentioned...Please, Lebron is begging me to make this trade no matter what."

Pelicans " We now want 12 picks, not 8, sorry, that was a one day only offer"

Lebron out for the remainder of the year after bashing his hand against the wall and spraining all ligaments within it

To be a fly on the wall in LaLa Land....

[Roy H.]

Who’s a better player right now, Lonzo Ball or Bench Terry Rozier?  (Note: that’s a different player than Starter Terry Rozier).

[RodyTur10]

I honestly don't think there's ever been a bigger offer than what the Lakers are putting on the table here. Rightfully so, but I think the Pelicans are fools to not accept it

In terms of quantity, perhaps.

But, there isn’t a likely top-20 pick in the deal, nor is there a blue chip young player. 

Davis is the best prime big man on the block in decades. You want to walk away feeling like you got at least one really good player in the trade.

We had a disagreement yesterday on trading lottery picks, so you might not agree on me here as well, but Ball and Kuzma are great fits for Phoenix. Add a first round pick ('19 Lakers pick), would Phoenix give up their first for that (and Jackson)? Phoenix is negotiating from a position of strength, but does that not seem feasible?

And I like Tatum and Brown better than Ingram, but Ingram is a promising player as well. He's a very good finisher and passer.

And you never know how the future turns out for those picks. I would demand some protections (nothing said about this in the reports) on the Lakers' picks. I'd let them keep Zubac and have a Lakers pick in return (fair value), and I would also let them keep Hart and take their rookies Wagner and Bonga and a pick swap.

So '19 pick (traded to Phoenix), then two 21-30 protections for '21 and '22, then '23 is unprotected, pick swap in '24 and '25 unprotected. If a protection on the second pick is forfeited it automatically goes over to the third pick. So the picks that the Pelicans receive additional to '19 and '24 swap are either: ('21 + '23, '21 + '25, '22 + '25 or '23 + '25). That should yield a valuable player along the way.

In the end the Pelicans receive the Phoenix pick, Ingram, Jackson, Wagner, Bonga + 2 Lakers picks and a swap.
There's no guarantee that this amounts to something great, but I'd be okay with this.

[RodyTur10]

Who’s a better player right now, Lonzo Ball or Bench Terry Rozier?  (Note: that’s a different player than Starter Terry Rozier).

Terry Rozier is better right now, but Ball has the potential to become the better player.

[sgrogan]

Who’s a better player right now, Lonzo Ball or Bench Terry Rozier?  (Note: that’s a different player than Starter Terry Rozier).

I would probably take Lonzo. More future value? Would Rozier + Yabu be worth more to the Pelicans than Lanzo?

[MattyIce]

The last offer really sounds like Jive. Just media make up.

What the he*& does Demps want the entire Lakers line up for? He has to sell tickets and hope to his fanbase.

So Rondo, Lebron and Davis were going to knock off Golden State. In what universe?

Generational player (horse) = bunch of ponies

He has to try and get a legit star to save face...he is losing a top 5 player. I don't want him to, but, at least this year's #1 overall is something he can sell to the fans.

no one believes that they will knock of GSW this year..but they would likely have more than those 3 of course...tyson chandler, buyouts like W Mathews, deandre jordan, brook lopez and whoever else shakes out.  and then next year add a max player...so in the next year or two could they knock off a durantless GSW? Maybe he doesnt want them to be set up for the future

Granted i don't want davis to go there but the more they lose acquiring him the better

[Roy H.]

Who’s a better player right now, Lonzo Ball or Bench Terry Rozier?  (Note: that’s a different player than Starter Terry Rozier).

Terry Rozier is better right now, but Ball has the potential to become the better player.

I agree with this.

But, Bench Terry isn’t a particularly good player. Lonzo is worse than that and has a giant family cancer attached to him.

[RMO]

Are we fairly confident this is done for now?  New Orleans can still go back to the Lakers.  I'm willing to bet the Lakers would accept just about anything to get this done

[Roy H.]

Are we fairly confident this is done for now?  New Orleans can still go back to the Lakers.  I'm willing to bet the Lakers would accept just about anything to get this done

It can be revived in seconds, although I get the sense that NOP ownership doesn’t want to capitulate to the Lakers.

[Monkhouse]

If I'm Demps, I hold out for 3 reasons.

1) Zion

2) Tatum

3) More offers

[ManUp]

What does the Celtics offer for Davis look like? Can we get Davis without giving up both Tatum and Brown?