Anthony Davis traded to Lakers(page 272)

[LarBrd33]

talk about a low ball offer by Magic .  wow thats insult , but i guess they start low .   Rondo and Lance ,,LOL .....yeah NO would be setup up for a nice rebuild .

The lakers forms are convinced Kyrie is resigning with Lebron and hates Boston .  Alot of delusional kids on social media.

All part of the same strategy. They know Boston can't make an offer until Summer and it doesn't make sense to trade to New York right now either... so there is nobody bidding against the Lakers right now. They can't START with their best offer. They will start with this and ramp it up from there. Ultimately their goal is that the Pelicans give them a counter offer that they'll immediately take with glee.

Lakers: "So hey, here's our first offer... but hey, it's uh... it's just a starting point!... so like, don't hang up if you hate it... just please... please please please please send us a counter offer before doing anything. We're open! We're just trying to start a convo!... just ... send us a counter!!!"

Pelicans: (silence)

In the meantime, Lakers will do their darndest (with help from Rich Paul) to leak stories about how Davis has no interest in playing anywhere other than LA... so that come next week's deadline they can go "ok... this is our final final final final offer... Ball + Kuzma + Ingram + Hart + 3 1st round picks... It's not getting better this Summer.  Nobody is beating it this Summer.  Boston isn't going to want to give up assets for a rental... so just take this amazing incredible perfect offer right now so we can put this all behind us."

Hopefully the Pelicans tell them to shove it and never send a counter offer. That "best" offer will be available to them in the Summer too.

I mean what you're seeing right now is a very desperate attempt by Rich Paul to help his client get off the Pelicans immediately as opposed to suffering through the next 5 months in a sitting duck situation.  Since Boston can't play ball right now, they are doing everything possible to get them to concede.  I even think the anti-Kyrie stuff is at least partially motivated by some desperate attempt to convince the Pelicans that Boston is lying about giving up "the world" for Davis and that Boston will probably be unwilling to even make a play for Davis after "KyRiE FleEs to NeW YoRk"...  On the flip side, if they can convince Boston to trade Kyrie right now - suddenly Boston becomes a player and the bidding war for Davis can take place immediately as opposed to 5 months from now.  It makes sense.

[SHAQATTACK]

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2818940-anthony-davis-trade-rumors-lakers-dont-have-the-assets-to-complete-deal

Lebron’s mouthpiece Windhorst even admitting that the Lakers seemingly don’t have the assets to pull off an AD trade right now, which is why Paul and others are waging a war against Boston to not even get them to bid.

pretty much in a nutshell .   The Davis thing about Boston and IT4 is such brainless non sense .  Lakers are heros for giving Kobe 40 million to fart away during their obvious rebuild .  SMH ....kids

[Kuberski33]

I'm not shocked Demps isn't returning calls.  However I do think he's feeding info to Woj.  Kind of like he's giving smoke signals to the rest of the league.  I think this escalates at some point soon with Davis pulling a Kawhi to try to put more pressure on Demps to deal only with LA.

[SHAQATTACK]

talk about a low ball offer by Magic .  wow thats insult , but i guess they start low .   Rondo and Lance ,,LOL .....yeah NO would be setup up for a nice rebuild .

The lakers forms are convinced Kyrie is resigning with Lebron and hates Boston .  Alot of delusional kids on social media.

All part of the same strategy. They know Boston can't make an offer until Summer and it doesn't make sense to trade to New York right now either... so there is nobody bidding against the Lakers right now. They can't START with their best offer. They will start with this and ramp it up from there. Ultimately their goal is that the Pelicans give them a counter offer that they'll immediately take with glee.

Lakers: "So hey, here's our first offer... but hey, it's uh... it's just a starting point!... so like, don't hang up if you hate it... just please... please please please please send us a counter offer before doing anything. We're open! We're just trying to start a convo!... just ... send us a counter!!!"

Pelicans: (silence)

In the meantime, Lakers will do their darndest (with help from Rich Paul) to leak stories about how Davis has no interest in playing anywhere other than LA... so that come next week's deadline they can go "ok... this is our final final final final offer... Ball + Kuzma + Ingram + Hart + 3 1st round picks... It's not getting better this Summer.  Nobody is beating it this Summer.  Boston isn't going to want to give up assets for a rental... so just take this amazing incredible perfect offer right now so we can put this all behind us."

Hopefully the Pelicans tell them to shove it and never send a counter offer. That "best" offer will be available to them in the Summer too.

there is an intresting comment on Lakers forum about , noticing no deal includes KCP ,  kinda head scratching,  you d think his salary would be part of the match .  He has not really helped La greatly IMO.  But .....what im poking around for ....is PKC is ALSO a Kultch sports man.  Bron and Paul don't want to lose another memeber of Klutch sports to the enemy .  This kinda gets into Sir Charles was saying .   Sounds like Klutch sports want to be the defacto FO of the LA Lakers .

[Roy H.]

I'm not shocked Demps isn't returning calls.  However I do think he's feeding info to Woj.  Kind of like he's giving smoke signals to the rest of the league.  I think this escalates at some point soon with Davis pulling a Kawhi to try to put more pressure on Demps to deal only with LA.

Would "pulling a Kawhi" really help him?

Gentry has already said that he's not sure he'd play a healthy Davis the rest of the season if he isn't traded.  Sitting him preserves his health, and also helps New Orleans tank.

[LarBrd33]

talk about a low ball offer by Magic .  wow thats insult , but i guess they start low .   Rondo and Lance ,,LOL .....yeah NO would be setup up for a nice rebuild .

The lakers forms are convinced Kyrie is resigning with Lebron and hates Boston .  Alot of delusional kids on social media.

All part of the same strategy. They know Boston can't make an offer until Summer and it doesn't make sense to trade to New York right now either... so there is nobody bidding against the Lakers right now. They can't START with their best offer. They will start with this and ramp it up from there. Ultimately their goal is that the Pelicans give them a counter offer that they'll immediately take with glee.

Lakers: "So hey, here's our first offer... but hey, it's uh... it's just a starting point!... so like, don't hang up if you hate it... just please... please please please please send us a counter offer before doing anything. We're open! We're just trying to start a convo!... just ... send us a counter!!!"

Pelicans: (silence)

In the meantime, Lakers will do their darndest (with help from Rich Paul) to leak stories about how Davis has no interest in playing anywhere other than LA... so that come next week's deadline they can go "ok... this is our final final final final offer... Ball + Kuzma + Ingram + Hart + 3 1st round picks... It's not getting better this Summer.  Nobody is beating it this Summer.  Boston isn't going to want to give up assets for a rental... so just take this amazing incredible perfect offer right now so we can put this all behind us."

Hopefully the Pelicans tell them to shove it and never send a counter offer. That "best" offer will be available to them in the Summer too.

I mean what you're seeing right now is a very desperate attempt by Rich Paul to help his client get off the Pelicans immediately as opposed to suffering through the next 5 months in a sitting duck situation.  Since Boston can't play ball right now, they are doing everything possible to get them to concede.  I even think the anti-Kyrie stuff is at least partially motivated by some desperate attempt to convince the Pelicans that Boston is lying about giving up "the world" for Davis and that Boston will probably be unwilling to even make a play for Davis after "KyRiE FleEs to NeW YoRk"...  On the flip side, if they can convince Boston to trade Kyrie right now - suddenly Boston becomes a player and the bidding war for Davis can take place immediately as opposed to 5 months from now.  It makes sense.

there is an intresting comment on Lakers forum about , noticing no deal includes KCP ,  kinda head scratching,  you d think his salary would be part of the match .  He has not really helped La greatly IMO.  But .....what im poking around for ....is PKC is ALSO a Kultch sports man.  Bron and Paul don't want to lose another memeber of Klutch sports to the enemy .  This kinda gets into Sir Charles was saying .   Sounds like Klutch sports want to be the defacto FO of the LA Lakers .

I mean... who gives a crap about KCP.  Most of the noise you're hearing is such complete garbage.  Tune it out. 

Ultimately, the Lakers will accept ANY counter-offer that doesn't include LeBron James.  It doesn't matter what the Pelicans ask for.  Ingram + Ball + Kuzma + Hart + multiple 1sts + whatever... anything.  Big picture, the Lakers would be better off shedding as many players as possible to maximize their Summer cap room around Davis and LeBron so that they can target a 3rd star (Klay, Kawhi, Durant, etc)...

It makes sense for them to open negotiations low and ramp up as the deadline approaches.  This is due diligence.  The most likely scenario remains that the Pelicans just hold off and delay this bidding war for 5 months.  Obviously, Rich Paul, Anthony Davis, and the Los Angeles Lakers would love for trade to happen in the excitement of the trade deadline... so they are playing their cards accordingly. 

[Kuberski33]

I'm not shocked Demps isn't returning calls.  However I do think he's feeding info to Woj.  Kind of like he's giving smoke signals to the rest of the league.  I think this escalates at some point soon with Davis pulling a Kawhi to try to put more pressure on Demps to deal only with LA.

Would "pulling a Kawhi" really help him?

Gentry has already said that he's not sure he'd play a healthy Davis the rest of the season if he isn't traded.  Sitting him preserves his health, and also helps New Orleans tank.

The Lakers don't have a ton of leverage other than the fact that Davis is represented by Klutch. Their trump card (so to speak) is the player himself not rendering services to fulfill his contract.  Even if they trade him to another team, Davis can just say screw it in terms of his attitude/dedication to the team etc till he's a free agent.

Fascinating situation.

[Kuberski33]

talk about a low ball offer by Magic .  wow thats insult , but i guess they start low .   Rondo and Lance ,,LOL .....yeah NO would be setup up for a nice rebuild .

The lakers forms are convinced Kyrie is resigning with Lebron and hates Boston .  Alot of delusional kids on social media.

All part of the same strategy. They know Boston can't make an offer until Summer and it doesn't make sense to trade to New York right now either... so there is nobody bidding against the Lakers right now. They can't START with their best offer. They will start with this and ramp it up from there. Ultimately their goal is that the Pelicans give them a counter offer that they'll immediately take with glee.

Lakers: "So hey, here's our first offer... but hey, it's uh... it's just a starting point!... so like, don't hang up if you hate it... just please... please please please please send us a counter offer before doing anything. We're open! We're just trying to start a convo!... just ... send us a counter!!!"

Pelicans: (silence)

In the meantime, Lakers will do their darndest (with help from Rich Paul) to leak stories about how Davis has no interest in playing anywhere other than LA... so that come next week's deadline they can go "ok... this is our final final final final offer... Ball + Kuzma + Ingram + Hart + 3 1st round picks... It's not getting better this Summer.  Nobody is beating it this Summer.  Boston isn't going to want to give up assets for a rental... so just take this amazing incredible perfect offer right now so we can put this all behind us."

Hopefully the Pelicans tell them to shove it and never send a counter offer. That "best" offer will be available to them in the Summer too.

there is an intresting comment on Lakers forum about , noticing no deal includes KCP ,  kinda head scratching,  you d think his salary would be part of the match .  He has not really helped La greatly IMO.  But .....what im poking around for ....is PKC is ALSO a Kultch sports man.  Bron and Paul don't want to lose another memeber of Klutch sports to the enemy .  This kinda gets into Sir Charles was saying .   Sounds like Klutch sports want to be the defacto FO of the LA Lakers .

If you mean Pope, yes he is. The pre-emptive strike to Lebron going to LA was the Lakers giving KCP a ridiculous 1 year contract if I recall.  Klutch certainly does appear to want to be the defacto FO of the Lakers.  Not Lebron's strength by the way - so I think it would be a lot of fun to see the Lakers future flushed down the toilet over this whole deal.

[PAOBoston]

I'm not shocked Demps isn't returning calls.  However I do think he's feeding info to Woj.  Kind of like he's giving smoke signals to the rest of the league.  I think this escalates at some point soon with Davis pulling a Kawhi to try to put more pressure on Demps to deal only with LA.

Would "pulling a Kawhi" really help him?

Gentry has already said that he's not sure he'd play a healthy Davis the rest of the season if he isn't traded.  Sitting him preserves his health, and also helps New Orleans tank.

The Lakers don't have a ton of leverage other than the fact that Davis is represented by Klutch. Their trump card (so to speak) is the player himself not rendering services to fulfill his contract.  Even if they trade him to another team, Davis can just say screw it in terms of his attitude/dedication to the team etc till he's a free agent.

Fascinating situation.

Yes, but would the Lakers punt on another season next year to maintain optimum cap space to try and grab AD in 2020 knowing that Lebron will be 36 then?

[jpotter33]

I'm not shocked Demps isn't returning calls.  However I do think he's feeding info to Woj.  Kind of like he's giving smoke signals to the rest of the league.  I think this escalates at some point soon with Davis pulling a Kawhi to try to put more pressure on Demps to deal only with LA.

Would "pulling a Kawhi" really help him?

Gentry has already said that he's not sure he'd play a healthy Davis the rest of the season if he isn't traded.  Sitting him preserves his health, and also helps New Orleans tank.

The Lakers don't have a ton of leverage other than the fact that Davis is represented by Klutch. Their trump card (so to speak) is the player himself not rendering services to fulfill his contract.  Even if they trade him to another team, Davis can just say screw it in terms of his attitude/dedication to the team etc till he's a free agent.

Fascinating situation.

Yes, but would the Lakers punt on another season next year to maintain optimum cap space to try and grab AD in 2020 knowing that Lebron will be 36 then?

Beyond the doubtful likelihood of the Lakers saving space for him after this summer with such a rich crop of free agents, I think you’d see Silver step in if Davis tried to sit out the rest of his contract (which would never happen anyways, especially in a winning environment like Boston, Philly, Toronto, Denver, etc.). Given everything that has gone down with Paul and LA with AD’s trade request already, I think Silver would have to step in for the sake of the future of the league, as you can’t just let a player, team, and agent take these kinds of actions with a hugely marketable star.

[SHAQATTACK]

I'm not shocked Demps isn't returning calls.  However I do think he's feeding info to Woj.  Kind of like he's giving smoke signals to the rest of the league.  I think this escalates at some point soon with Davis pulling a Kawhi to try to put more pressure on Demps to deal only with LA.

Would "pulling a Kawhi" really help him?

Gentry has already said that he's not sure he'd play a healthy Davis the rest of the season if he isn't traded.  Sitting him preserves his health, and also helps New Orleans tank.

The Lakers don't have a ton of leverage other than the fact that Davis is represented by Klutch. Their trump card (so to speak) is the player himself not rendering services to fulfill his contract.  Even if they trade him to another team, Davis can just say screw it in terms of his attitude/dedication to the team etc till he's a free agent.

Fascinating situation.

Yes, but would the Lakers punt on another season next year to maintain optimum cap space to try and grab AD in 2020 knowing that Lebron will be 36 then?

Beyond the doubtful likelihood of the Lakers saving space for him after this summer with such a rich crop of free agents, I think you’d see Silver step in if Davis tried to sit out the rest of his contract (which would never happen anyways, especially in a winning environment like Boston, Philly, Toronto, Denver, etc.). Given everything that has gone down with Paul and LA with AD’s trade request already, I think Silver would have to step in for the sake of the future of the league, as you can’t just let a player, team, and agent take these kinds of actions with a hugely marketable star.

you can bet your bottom dollar Silver and owners are keeping a close eye on LA, Bron an d his camp ..

[umpacu]

Interesting comment, the one by AD's father. I wonder if the Pelicans would have turned Jrue Holiday into Kyrie, or Durant, or Butler, or anybody that could have give AD more chances at winning a championship, his father would have said the same thing.

I think that if you want to win a championship, as AD supposedly does, you need a GM that's willing to improve your team when the chance presents itself. And that's what Danny did with the IT/Kyrie trade, as painful as it was for IT. Loyalty is great until you end up losing your stars because they want to be contenders.

[PAOBoston]

Assuming AD doesn’t get traded by next weekend, I think it’s going to be hilarious in the summer when Ainge ends up trading a bag of balls and a box of Scary Terry merchandise to pelicans to get AD to Boston.

[Moranis]

talk about a low ball offer by Magic .  wow thats insult , but i guess they start low .   Rondo and Lance ,,LOL .....yeah NO would be setup up for a nice rebuild .

The lakers forms are convinced Kyrie is resigning with Lebron and hates Boston .  Alot of delusional kids on social media.

All part of the same strategy. They know Boston can't make an offer until Summer and it doesn't make sense to trade to New York right now either... so there is nobody bidding against the Lakers right now. They can't START with their best offer. They will start with this and ramp it up from there. Ultimately their goal is that the Pelicans give them a counter offer that they'll immediately take with glee.

Lakers: "So hey, here's our first offer... but hey, it's uh... it's just a starting point!... so like, don't hang up if you hate it... just please... please please please please send us a counter offer before doing anything. We're open! We're just trying to start a convo!... just ... send us a counter!!!"

Pelicans: (silence)

In the meantime, Lakers will do their darndest (with help from Rich Paul) to leak stories about how Davis has no interest in playing anywhere other than LA... so that come next week's deadline they can go "ok... this is our final final final final offer... Ball + Kuzma + Ingram + Hart + 3 1st round picks... It's not getting better this Summer.  Nobody is beating it this Summer.  Boston isn't going to want to give up assets for a rental... so just take this amazing incredible perfect offer right now so we can put this all behind us."

Hopefully the Pelicans tell them to shove it and never send a counter offer. That "best" offer will be available to them in the Summer too.

there is an intresting comment on Lakers forum about , noticing no deal includes KCP ,  kinda head scratching,  you d think his salary would be part of the match .  He has not really helped La greatly IMO.  But .....what im poking around for ....is PKC is ALSO a Kultch sports man.  Bron and Paul don't want to lose another memeber of Klutch sports to the enemy .  This kinda gets into Sir Charles was saying .   Sounds like Klutch sports want to be the defacto FO of the LA Lakers .

KCP has to agree to be traded.  If he told the Lakers he wouldn't agree to be traded (especially to New Orleans) then they can't trade him.  Period. 

The Celtics actually have a player in the same position of KCP, that is Baynes, such that Baynes can only be traded if he agrees to be traded.

By allowing themselves to be traded they give up their Bird rights making it far more difficult for them to be re-signed by the acquiring team.

[slamtheking]

Assuming AD doesn’t get traded by next weekend, I think it’s going to be hilarious in the summer when Ainge ends up trading a bag of balls and a box of Scary Terry merchandise to pelicans to get AD to Boston.

I suspect Danny may come out ahead of every one else in acquiring Davis but I suspect it will cost us dearly.