Anthony Davis traded to Lakers(page 272)

[Green-18]

I have a question for everyone regarding salaries for next season.  Let's assume that Kyrie agrees to stay and Horford is willing to decline his player option in favor of a long term hometown discount.  Here's how the Celtics cap situation looks BEFORE signing Kyrie and Horford:

Hayward - $32.7 Million
Smart - $12 Million
Tatum - $7.8 Million
Brown - $6.5 Million
Rozier - $4.25 Million Cap Hold (Restricted Free Agent:)
Yabusele - $3.1 Million
RWIII - $1.9 Million
Bird - $1.58 Million
Demetrius Jackson - $95,000 (looks like he stays on our books for a few more years)

Total Salary for 2020: $69.92 Million (could be less if the team relinquishes rights to Rozier)
Projected Salary Cap for 2020: $109 Million

In this scenario the Celtics could trade for AD BEFORE giving Horford and Irving new contracts as long as they stay under the salary cap.  Bird rights would still apply to both players after the trade.  Can someone confirm whether or not this is correct?  If I am right, this means that Ainge has significant flexibility going into the off-season.

No salary cap wiz at all, but I think you forgot to include the cap holds for Al and Kyrie.

You are right.  I don't know what their holds would be until they sign the new contract.  It might be the amount of their player options but I'm not sure how the accounting works if they decline them.

Their cap holds are equivalent to max salaries.

Good to know.  Thanks for the clarification. 

[Moranis]

I have a question for everyone regarding salaries for next season.  Let's assume that Kyrie agrees to stay and Horford is willing to decline his player option in favor of a long term hometown discount.  Here's how the Celtics cap situation looks BEFORE signing Kyrie and Horford:

Hayward - $32.7 Million
Smart - $12 Million
Tatum - $7.8 Million
Brown - $6.5 Million
Rozier - $4.25 Million Cap Hold (Restricted Free Agent:)
Yabusele - $3.1 Million
RWIII - $1.9 Million
Bird - $1.58 Million
Demetrius Jackson - $95,000 (looks like he stays on our books for a few more years)

Total Salary for 2020: $69.92 Million (could be less if the team relinquishes rights to Rozier)
Projected Salary Cap for 2020: $109 Million

In this scenario the Celtics could trade for AD BEFORE giving Horford and Irving new contracts as long as they stay under the salary cap.  Bird rights would still apply to both players after the trade.  Can someone confirm whether or not this is correct?  If I am right, this means that Ainge has significant flexibility going into the off-season.

No salary cap wiz at all, but I think you forgot to include the cap holds for Al and Kyrie.

You are right.  I don't know what their holds would be until they sign the new contract.  It might be the amount of their player options but I'm not sure how the accounting works if they decline them.

You don't have to stay under the cap to trade for a player, you just have to match salary.  Cap holds are greater than the prior seasons salary, so there is no way to acquire anyone into cap space next summer.

[Green-18]

I have a question for everyone regarding salaries for next season.  Let's assume that Kyrie agrees to stay and Horford is willing to decline his player option in favor of a long term hometown discount.  Here's how the Celtics cap situation looks BEFORE signing Kyrie and Horford:

Hayward - $32.7 Million
Smart - $12 Million
Tatum - $7.8 Million
Brown - $6.5 Million
Rozier - $4.25 Million Cap Hold (Restricted Free Agent:)
Yabusele - $3.1 Million
RWIII - $1.9 Million
Bird - $1.58 Million
Demetrius Jackson - $95,000 (looks like he stays on our books for a few more years)

Total Salary for 2020: $69.92 Million (could be less if the team relinquishes rights to Rozier)
Projected Salary Cap for 2020: $109 Million

In this scenario the Celtics could trade for AD BEFORE giving Horford and Irving new contracts as long as they stay under the salary cap.  Bird rights would still apply to both players after the trade.  Can someone confirm whether or not this is correct?  If I am right, this means that Ainge has significant flexibility going into the off-season.

No salary cap wiz at all, but I think you forgot to include the cap holds for Al and Kyrie.

You are right.  I don't know what their holds would be until they sign the new contract.  It might be the amount of their player options but I'm not sure how the accounting works if they decline them.

You don't have to stay under the cap to trade for a player, you just have to match salary.  Cap holds are greater than the prior seasons salary, so there is no way to acquire anyone into cap space next summer.

I know that salary needs to match unless you have cap space.  The issue of cap holds is where I was confused.  I wasn't sure if there was a way for the Celtics to take on salary before re-signing Kyrie.     

[KGs Knee]

I have a question for everyone regarding salaries for next season.  Let's assume that Kyrie agrees to stay and Horford is willing to decline his player option in favor of a long term hometown discount.  Here's how the Celtics cap situation looks BEFORE signing Kyrie and Horford:

Hayward - $32.7 Million
Smart - $12 Million
Tatum - $7.8 Million
Brown - $6.5 Million
Rozier - $4.25 Million Cap Hold (Restricted Free Agent:)
Yabusele - $3.1 Million
RWIII - $1.9 Million
Bird - $1.58 Million
Demetrius Jackson - $95,000 (looks like he stays on our books for a few more years)

Total Salary for 2020: $69.92 Million (could be less if the team relinquishes rights to Rozier)
Projected Salary Cap for 2020: $109 Million

In this scenario the Celtics could trade for AD BEFORE giving Horford and Irving new contracts as long as they stay under the salary cap.  Bird rights would still apply to both players after the trade.  Can someone confirm whether or not this is correct?  If I am right, this means that Ainge has significant flexibility going into the off-season.

No salary cap wiz at all, but I think you forgot to include the cap holds for Al and Kyrie.

You are right.  I don't know what their holds would be until they sign the new contract.  It might be the amount of their player options but I'm not sure how the accounting works if they decline them.

Their cap holds are equivalent to max salaries.

I think it's actually 150% of their previous salary, or their potential max salary, whichever is less.

[jpotter33]

Sources with The Athletic's Pelicans reporter
@WillGuillory
: One player the Lakers have not placed in discussions with Pelicans for Anthony Davis (besides LeBron James): Kentavious Caldwell-Pope.

Since KCP is on a one year contract, he has a no trade clause. Lakers most likely already went to him to ask if he would be willing to waive the no trade clause so they can trade him to NOLA or somewhere else. He then could easily have said no meaning the Lakers can't offer him to the Pels or anyone else if KCP wants to stay in LA.

Smart move by KCP. If the Lakers are able to trade for Davis, KCP is a guaranteed starter on that depleted roster in the playoffs. Putting up some good numbers as the main 3-point-option could yield him a nice new contract.

Guys, let’s also not forget who KCP is represented by - Rich Paul and ClutchSports.

Shams is also reporting that the only two players who haven’t been discussed in talks thus far are KCP and Lebron, again both represented by Rich Paul.

http://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1091587134144856064

[Phantom255x]

Pelicans should just block the Lakers' number until the deadline passes after that complete joke of an offer if true 

[CelticsElite]

Woj: So far, the Lakers pursuit of Anthony Davis resembles how they chased Kawhi Leonard and Paul George: Underwhelming offers. ESPN story https://es.pn/2t5vcCN

[Ogaju]

Woj: So far, the Lakers pursuit of Anthony Davis resembles how they chased Kawhi Leonard and Paul George: Underwhelming offers. ESPN story https://es.pn/2t5vcCN

this is funny... does not seem that the Lakers really want AD that badly. LeBron is going to be super p---ed if the Lakers do not do more to try to get AD.

Ainge should drive up the price let the Lakers spend four of their young players and a draft pick. AD and LeBron without help will not win anything.

[jpotter33]

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2818940-anthony-davis-trade-rumors-lakers-dont-have-the-assets-to-complete-deal

Lebron’s mouthpiece Windhorst even admitting that the Lakers seemingly don’t have the assets to pull off an AD trade right now, which is why Paul and others are waging a war against Boston to not even get them to bid.

[PhoSita]

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2818940-anthony-davis-trade-rumors-lakers-dont-have-the-assets-to-complete-deal

Lebron’s mouthpiece Windhorst even admitting that the Lakers seemingly don’t have the assets to pull off an AD trade right now, which is why Paul and others are waging a war against Boston to not even get them to bid.

Ding ding ding.

Lakers have crappy assets and they're negotiating from a position of weakness.

[footey]

Woj: So far, the Lakers pursuit of Anthony Davis resembles how they chased Kawhi Leonard and Paul George: Underwhelming offers. ESPN story https://es.pn/2t5vcCN

They will offer everyone plus picks and cap relief at the deadline. Hoping that still won’t be enough.

Wouldn’t it be funny if the Pels demanded Lebron in exchange?

[scottwedman]

Woj: So far, the Lakers pursuit of Anthony Davis resembles how they chased Kawhi Leonard and Paul George: Underwhelming offers. ESPN story https://es.pn/2t5vcCN

They will offer everyone plus picks and cap relief at the deadline. Hoping that still won’t be enough.

Wouldn’t it be funny if the Pels demanded Lebron in exchange?

Lakers might say yes!  Swap 34 year old LeBron for 25 year old AD, keep their kids & capspace.

[CelticsElite]

Lakers forums are having a melt down with the latest development:

http://forums.lakersground.net/viewtopic.php?t=186725&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=6725

"Woj is in bed with Ainge. Pelicans are playing with fire if they're going to stretch this into the summer. There is no way in hell Anthony Davis is going to commit to playing in Boston. And there's no way in hell Danny Ainge is going to risk giving all those young players and draft picks for a 1-year rental. The Lakers have all the leverage here right now. It would be in the Pelicans best interest to make a trade with us before the deadline."


"I think Woj is resentful he has no connections inside the Lakers organization"


"
It has to go deeper than that. He seems hellbent on sabotaging this trade."

[Phantom255x]

Lakers forums are having a melt down with the latest development:

http://forums.lakersground.net/viewtopic.php?t=186725&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=6725

"Woj is in bed with Ainge. Pelicans are playing with fire if they're going to stretch this into the summer. There is no way in hell Anthony Davis is going to commit to playing in Boston. And there's no way in hell Danny Ainge is going to risk giving all those young players and draft picks for a 1-year rental. The Lakers have all the leverage here right now. It would be in the Pelicans best interest to make a trade with us before the deadline."


"I think Woj is resentful he has no connections inside the Lakers organization"


"
It has to go deeper than that. He seems hellbent on sabotaging this trade."

Oh give me a break. What are they worrying about? AD wants to play there but probably not Boston. If any report came out that AD would actually love the idea of playing here I'd be ecstatic, but that's seemingly not the case now.

But with that said, yeah they've got to offer a much better trade package than that trash they offered lol. That was an insulting offer if true and the Pelicans should feel even more irked.

[SHAQATTACK]

talk about a low ball offer by Magic .  wow thats insult , but i guess they start low .   Rondo and Lance ,,LOL .....yeah NO would be setup up for a nice rebuild .

The lakers forms are convinced Kyrie is resigning with Lebron and hates Boston .  Alot of delusional kids on social media.