Anthony Davis traded to Lakers(page 272)

[Who]

There is no way NYK gives up both Porzingis and the #1 (Zion) should they nab the #1. Porzingis was a top 10 player in the league before this injury. He gives you 95% of what Anthony Davis does. You don't give up that and the #1 overall pick to upgrade to AD.

Isn't Porzingis a FA anyway? Why would he want to sign with New Orleans?

[gouki88]

Anyone think that maybe New Orleans is p---ed at Paul/LAL and will purposely not give in the next 10 days?

Maybe not take an inferior package, but if anything remotely close to equal, they take that solely to not appease them.

This is the second time they requested the league to investigate tampering involving the Lakers. If they go out and trade him to them within a couple weeks, they will look like chumps.

Maybe there will be other teams jumping into the mix but I’m starting to think this ploy won’t work.

I could definitely see it playing out this way. Paul and AD have absolutely no leverage considering Davis is contracted to play next season, so I don't see NOP moving him pre-deadline.

Add the fact that they could wait until pick placement is locked away and it only makes more sense for them to wait

[bknova]

If you are the Pelicans gm

Which package is better

1. Kyle Kuzma, Ingram, Ball, Zubac
2. Zion, Kristap, Frank N

I don’t think I would give up both Zion (assuming they get the top pick) and KP for AD.

That could be one of the most exciting duos to watch in a long time.

The Knicks would be stupid not to make that trade.  They haven't been relevant in years, AD and say, a Kemba Walker and Kevin Knox coached by Dave Fizdale would be top 4 in the East for years, and would start selling out MSG every night, again.

[bknova]

There is no way NYK gives up both Porzingis and the #1 (Zion) should they nab the #1. Porzingis was a top 10 player in the league before this injury. He gives you 95% of what Anthony Davis does. You don't give up that and the #1 overall pick to upgrade to AD.

Isn't Porzingis a FA anyway? Why would he want to sign with New Orleans?

If he is a FA, he'd be restricted. And what?

[gouki88]

There is no way NYK gives up both Porzingis and the #1 (Zion) should they nab the #1. Porzingis was a top 10 player in the league before this injury. He gives you 95% of what Anthony Davis does. You don't give up that and the #1 overall pick to upgrade to AD.

I like Porzingis, but this is far from the truth. He wasn't even averaging 23PPG on 18.5FGA, he sucks at rebounding and he's an inferior defender to AD. Not even close to being a top 10 player in the league, let alone being 95% of AD in my opinion.

AD is quite literally doubling the rebounds /game numbers Kristaps put up in his last season. Add to the fact that he's 7'3" and potentially injury prone, I can imagine his value not being too high.

[bknova]

There is no way NYK gives up both Porzingis and the #1 (Zion) should they nab the #1. Porzingis was a top 10 player in the league before this injury. He gives you 95% of what Anthony Davis does. You don't give up that and the #1 overall pick to upgrade to AD.

I like Porzingis, but this is far from the truth. He wasn't even averaging 23PPG on 18.5FGA, he sucks at rebounding and he's an inferior defender to AD. Not even close to being a top 10 player in the league, let alone being 95% of AD in my opinion.

AD is quite literally doubling the rebounds /game numbers Kristaps put up in his last season. Add to the fact that he's 7'3" and potentially injury prone, I can imagine his value not being too high.

AD puts the Knicks back on the map and sells out MSG every night. I live in New York.  The Knicks absolutely make that move, and then go offer a max to Kemba Walker. The East becomes Boston, Philly, New York, and Milwaukee all over again.  Back to the 80s.

[Who]

There is no way NYK gives up both Porzingis and the #1 (Zion) should they nab the #1. Porzingis was a top 10 player in the league before this injury. He gives you 95% of what Anthony Davis does. You don't give up that and the #1 overall pick to upgrade to AD.

I like Porzingis, but this is far from the truth. He wasn't even averaging 23PPG on 18.5FGA, he sucks at rebounding and he's an inferior defender to AD. Not even close to being a top 10 player in the league, let alone being 95% of AD in my opinion.

AD is quite literally doubling the rebounds /game numbers Kristaps put up in his last season. Add to the fact that he's 7'3" and potentially injury prone, I can imagine his value not being too high.

Porzingis' rebounds are artificially low because they keep putting him next to a center. Play him in his natural position at center and Porzingis is up rebounding 11-12rpg.

[Who]

There is no way NYK gives up both Porzingis and the #1 (Zion) should they nab the #1. Porzingis was a top 10 player in the league before this injury. He gives you 95% of what Anthony Davis does. You don't give up that and the #1 overall pick to upgrade to AD.

Isn't Porzingis a FA anyway? Why would he want to sign with New Orleans?

If he is a FA, he'd be restricted. And what?

And Porzingis would still have to agree to go to New Orleans.

Restricted FA doesn't change that. It is his choice.

[bknova]

Ayton, Josh Jackson, Kelly Oubre and picks (especially if Zion) is better than the Lakers can offer.

[nickagneta]

Anyone think that maybe New Orleans is p---ed at Paul/LAL and will purposely not give in the next 10 days?

Maybe not take an inferior package, but if anything remotely close to equal, they take that solely to not appease them.

This is the second time they requested the league to investigate tampering involving the Lakers. If they go out and trade him to them within a couple weeks, they will look like chumps.

Maybe there will be other teams jumping into the mix but I’m starting to think this ploy won’t work.

This is an excellent point. If Ainge thought a team was tampering with Kyrie and twice went public so much as even reporting that specific team to the league office for investigation of tampering, this is zero chance Ainge would trade that player to that team none.

New Orleans was already unhappy about LeBron's tampering and sending out a statement that they want the league to closely monitored for further tampering is them believing LeBron/Lakers/Paul(even though he is Davis' agent) are tampering again.

Not sure it would be a good look for NO to trade Davis to LA after thinking LA tampered with their player.

[gouki88]

There is no way NYK gives up both Porzingis and the #1 (Zion) should they nab the #1. Porzingis was a top 10 player in the league before this injury. He gives you 95% of what Anthony Davis does. You don't give up that and the #1 overall pick to upgrade to AD.

I like Porzingis, but this is far from the truth. He wasn't even averaging 23PPG on 18.5FGA, he sucks at rebounding and he's an inferior defender to AD. Not even close to being a top 10 player in the league, let alone being 95% of AD in my opinion.

AD is quite literally doubling the rebounds /game numbers Kristaps put up in his last season. Add to the fact that he's 7'3" and potentially injury prone, I can imagine his value not being too high.

Porzingis' rebounds are artificially low because they keep putting him next to a center. Play him in his natural position at center and Porzingis is up rebounding 11-12rpg.

That seems like a cop-out to me. His rebounds per minute have gotten worse every year, and he's played alongside Robin Lopez, Joakim Noah and Enes Kanter. Being a power forward hasn't stopped Davis, Blake Griffen, LaMarcus Aldridge, Kevin Love, Draymond Green, Paul Millsap, Derrick Favors or Taj Gibson from being better rebounders than KP, and none of those guys are 7' tall (besides maybe AD), let alone 7'3"

[ozgod]

Anyone think that maybe New Orleans is p---ed at Paul/LAL and will purposely not give in the next 10 days?

Maybe not take an inferior package, but if anything remotely close to equal, they take that solely to not appease them.

This is the second time they requested the league to investigate tampering involving the Lakers. If they go out and trade him to them within a couple weeks, they will look like chumps.

Maybe there will be other teams jumping into the mix but I’m starting to think this ploy won’t work.

They'll want to show that they are in charge, not Rich Paul or LeBron James.

[RodyTur10]

If the Knicks get a top 2 pick, they can make a really compelling offer, while still keeping Porzingis:

Zion/Barrett + Knox + Robinson + Ntilikina

If they include Porzingis, then it's a done deal for sure. We have to hope that the Knicks don't get lucky at the lottery. The other tanking teams aren't a threat I think, since they won't push for immediate success. Also if something strange happens like Sacramento pick goes #1 (to Philly) or a LA team jumps into the top 4, that could turn the tables. Let's just assume that the Sac pick jumps to #2-4  .

[mobilija]

All the pressure is on LA. Either they step up w their best offer to snag him early or they set the market. I’m not worried. I’m sure Ainge will come in heavy.

[Donoghus]

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NBA spokesman Mike Bass on the Anthony Davis trade demand: "We commenced an investigation this morning upon reading the reports regarding Anthony Davis. That process is ongoing.”

2:52 PM - 28 Jan 2019