Anthony Davis traded to Lakers(page 272)

[cltc5]

everyone getting testy over something that had a 10% chance in happening not happening.

Team is hot mess right now, players arent gelling, I hope someting happens with Davis soon so that the team can make moves to improve as opposed to sitting on thumbs playing the what if game

Hot mess?

We’ve won 5 of 6, and since the bad start, 20 of 29.  We’ve got a top 10 offense and a top 5 defense.

Team has not been good and have been winning in the sheer will of kyrie

You must be new around here.

On celticsstrong, we only allow the most optimistic take regarding this team, and once we're proven wrong at the end of a season, we simply move the goalposts to shift the blame onto secondary factors.

Everything else is considered "trolling". Have a TP, anyway.

Strongest TP given ever!

[CelticsElite]

New Woj article after he just said on tv that pelicans will probably wait until summer

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/25874557/pelicans-rush-anthony-davis-deal-overwhelmed

Pelicans won't rush Anthony Davis deal unless overwhelmed

The New Orleans Pelicans plan to listen to offers on All-NBA center Anthony Davis but won't make a deal before next Thursday's NBA trade deadline unless they're offered an overwhelming package for the franchise's star, league sources told ESPN.

Lakers president Magic Johnson and GM Rob Pelinka are planning to make an aggressive push to acquire Davis prior to the Feb. 7 trade deadline, armed with confidence that Davis wants to play for the Lakers and would sign an extension, league sources said.

The Lakers are expected to talk with the Pelicans soon, league sources said.


After agent Rich Paul of Klutch Sports told ESPN on Monday that he had informed the Pelicans that Davis wouldn't sign an extension this summer and wanted a trade, multiple league sources expect the agent and star to soon deliver word throughout the league that Davis' preferred destination is the Lakers and he'll become a rental player until 2020 with a trade anywhere else.

It would be an attempt to depress offers in the marketplace, a way to perhaps make the Lakers trade package more appealing.

New Orleans is operating with an understanding that the Lakers best deadline offer could still be available to the Pelicans in the offseason -- once the asset-rich Boston Celtics can become factors in the Davis discussions.

"We will do this on our terms and our deadline," the Pelicans said in a statement Monday.

The Lakers resisted unloading assets for Paul George in 2017, although they were more aggressive in pursuing ex-San Antonio forward Kawhi Leonard last year. The Lakers were reluctant to believe that the Spurs wanted to make a deal with them, no matter what L.A. offered. If Davis wants to play with the Lakers, there's ultimately no stopping him from signing in Los Angeles in free agency in July of 2020.

[CelticsElite]

According to Woj on SportsCenter earlier, Klay would be really interested in the Lakers if LA deals for AD and open up a close-to-max slot in FA. And this is also presuming that GS doesn't offer Klay the full max.

[slightly biased bias fan]

According to Woj on SportsCenter earlier, Klay would be really interested in the Lakers if LA deals for AD and open up a close-to-max slot in FA. And this is also presuming that GS doesn't offer Klay the full max.

It'd be crazy to think that a hypothetical starting like up could be:

MLE Centre
Davis
James
Thompson
Rondo

You'd have to think the addition by subtraction of Thompson plus Davis would make the Lakers the favourites for the title.

[CelticsElite]

According to Woj on SportsCenter earlier, Klay would be really interested in the Lakers if LA deals for AD and open up a close-to-max slot in FA. And this is also presuming that GS doesn't offer Klay the full max.

It'd be crazy to think that a hypothetical starting like up could be:

MLE Centre
Davis
James
Thompson
Rondo

You'd have to think the addition by subtraction of Thompson plus Davis would make the Lakers the favourites for the title.

we really should have kept rondo for life

his game has aged fairly well. And he plays great with elite players

I think the main reason he didn't get along with Stevens was the losses. But losses come with any rebuilding team

[slightly biased bias fan]

According to Woj on SportsCenter earlier, Klay would be really interested in the Lakers if LA deals for AD and open up a close-to-max slot in FA. And this is also presuming that GS doesn't offer Klay the full max.

It'd be crazy to think that a hypothetical starting like up could be:

MLE Centre
Davis
James
Thompson
Rondo

You'd have to think the addition by subtraction of Thompson plus Davis would make the Lakers the favourites for the title.

we really should have kept rondo for life

his game has aged fairly well. And he plays great with elite players

I think the main reason he didn't get along with Stevens was the losses. But losses come with any rebuilding team

I wish we did too but he was never going to be part of a rebuilding team and Stevens game revolves around movement and equal opportunity neither of which has been a strong characteristic of Rondo's, it's the same reason he crashed and burned with Rick Carlisle.

[ederson]

New Woj article after he just said on tv that pelicans will probably wait until summer

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/25874557/pelicans-rush-anthony-davis-deal-overwhelmed

Pelicans won't rush Anthony Davis deal unless overwhelmed

The New Orleans Pelicans plan to listen to offers on All-NBA center Anthony Davis but won't make a deal before next Thursday's NBA trade deadline unless they're offered an overwhelming package for the franchise's star, league sources told ESPN.

Lakers president Magic Johnson and GM Rob Pelinka are planning to make an aggressive push to acquire Davis prior to the Feb. 7 trade deadline, armed with confidence that Davis wants to play for the Lakers and would sign an extension, league sources said.

The Lakers are expected to talk with the Pelicans soon, league sources said.


After agent Rich Paul of Klutch Sports told ESPN on Monday that he had informed the Pelicans that Davis wouldn't sign an extension this summer and wanted a trade, multiple league sources expect the agent and star to soon deliver word throughout the league that Davis' preferred destination is the Lakers and he'll become a rental player until 2020 with a trade anywhere else.

It would be an attempt to depress offers in the marketplace, a way to perhaps make the Lakers trade package more appealing.

New Orleans is operating with an understanding that the Lakers best deadline offer could still be available to the Pelicans in the offseason -- once the asset-rich Boston Celtics can become factors in the Davis discussions.

"We will do this on our terms and our deadline," the Pelicans said in a statement Monday.

The Lakers resisted unloading assets for Paul George in 2017, although they were more aggressive in pursuing ex-San Antonio forward Kawhi Leonard last year. The Lakers were reluctant to believe that the Spurs wanted to make a deal with them, no matter what L.A. offered. If Davis wants to play with the Lakers, there's ultimately no stopping him from signing in Los Angeles in free agency in July of 2020.

Now ti makes much more sense.

It looked strange that AD after dining with LBJ and the manager connection would just ask for a trade to a contender and not specifically to the LAL.

This is starting to look a lot like Kawhi's case

[Who]

According to Woj on SportsCenter earlier, Klay would be really interested in the Lakers if LA deals for AD and open up a close-to-max slot in FA. And this is also presuming that GS doesn't offer Klay the full max.

It'd be crazy to think that a hypothetical starting like up could be:

MLE Centre
Davis
James
Thompson
Rondo

You'd have to think the addition by subtraction of Thompson plus Davis would make the Lakers the favourites for the title.

we really should have kept rondo for life

his game has aged fairly well. And he plays great with elite players

I think the main reason he didn't get along with Stevens was the losses. But losses come with any rebuilding team

If Kyrie did leave -- which I don't for one second think he will -- I'd love to bring Rondo back.

I think Rondo would great with this Celtics team and they would surely love to play with a pass first PG like him -- because we all know Jaylen and Tatum like to shoot and want to show how talented they both are.

[Who]

I'm afraid that Davis making a point to get this info out there before trade deadline is a clear signal he is less interested in Boston and wants to give Lakers every opportunity to trade for him now - but that would be a short window given James' age and the loss of a young core that would leave with the trade.

I am not concerned about AD having a preference for LA over somewhere or anywhere else. It is only really an issue if AD is willing to force his way there.

I think AD would have come out stronger in his trade demand if that was the case. "LA or nowhere". "Not re-signing with anyone but Lakers" "Don't trade for me, I won't stay there".

AD can shut down any trade he wants and force a trade to any team he wants. But he has to be willing to do that. To be that guy -- the bad guy, the guy people turn against. He has shown no sign of being willing to do that. Until he does, I am not concerned about him forcing his way somewhere.

As it stands now, AD might very well prefer LA over other places but he looks perfectly willing to go somewhere else and stay long term so long as they have a strong team around him. So not concerned at all about LA being his first choice (if it is).

[j804]

I'm afraid that Davis making a point to get this info out there before trade deadline is a clear signal he is less interested in Boston and wants to give Lakers every opportunity to trade for him now - but that would be a short window given James' age and the loss of a young core that would leave with the trade.

I am not concerned about AD having a preference for LA over somewhere or anywhere else. It is only really an issue if AD is willing to force his way there.

I think AD would have come out stronger in his trade demand if that was the case. "LA or nowhere". "Not re-signing with anyone but Lakers" "Don't trade for me, I won't stay there".

AD can shut down any trade he wants and force a trade to any team he wants. But he has to be willing to do that. To be that guy -- the bad guy, the guy people turn against. He has shown no sign of being willing to do that. Until he does, I am not concerned about him forcing his way somewhere.

As it stands now, AD might very well prefer LA over other places but he looks perfectly willing to go somewhere else and stay long term so long as they have a strong team around him. So not concerned at all about LA being his first choice (if it is).

This article sounds like he’s ready to come out and be that guy though, no?! Sounds like it to me. If he pulls that like I said in another thread screw him I don’t want him. But pretty sure Ainges thought is if we land him Kyrie will resign which is the main priority, so we probably give up the farm regardless and hope Kyrie/Brad can get him to stay. 

[Who]

I'm afraid that Davis making a point to get this info out there before trade deadline is a clear signal he is less interested in Boston and wants to give Lakers every opportunity to trade for him now - but that would be a short window given James' age and the loss of a young core that would leave with the trade.

I am not concerned about AD having a preference for LA over somewhere or anywhere else. It is only really an issue if AD is willing to force his way there.

I think AD would have come out stronger in his trade demand if that was the case. "LA or nowhere". "Not re-signing with anyone but Lakers" "Don't trade for me, I won't stay there".

AD can shut down any trade he wants and force a trade to any team he wants. But he has to be willing to do that. To be that guy -- the bad guy, the guy people turn against. He has shown no sign of being willing to do that. Until he does, I am not concerned about him forcing his way somewhere.

As it stands now, AD might very well prefer LA over other places but he looks perfectly willing to go somewhere else and stay long term so long as they have a strong team around him. So not concerned at all about LA being his first choice (if it is).

This article sounds like he’s ready to come out and be that guy though, no?! Sounds like it to me. If he pulls that like I said in another thread screw him I don’t want him. But pretty sure Ainges thought is if we land him Kyrie will resign which is the main priority, so we probably give up the farm regardless and hope Kyrie/Brad can get him to stay.

I don't think so. Article not definite enough for me. "sources around league expect agent to..."A bit wishy-washy. It might still go that way but I need something more concrete than that.

AD has to be voiceful. Not just in his desires but also in his willingness to kill anything that isn't his first choice. I'll believe that when I see it ... because most players aren't willing to be that much of the bad guy. Hated by everyone (fans, media) around the league. Enemy #1. It's a big thing and takes a lot of will-power and strength to do.

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Take Kawhi for example. He has probably been the strongest in recent times but he still wasn't willing to kill the Toronto deal. He could've come out and said "no way in hell am I staying in Toronto" or even "no way in hell I am even going there for 1 year" "not showing up for training camp" "sitting out until I get to LA".

But he wasn't willing to do those things so Toronto went through with the deal even though Kawhi was non-committal about re-upping there.

Most players are not willing to be enough of an asshat to force their way somewhere. So I'll believe it when I see AD actually doing it. And that story today is not enough to convince me he'll do it.

[ederson]

I'm afraid that Davis making a point to get this info out there before trade deadline is a clear signal he is less interested in Boston and wants to give Lakers every opportunity to trade for him now - but that would be a short window given James' age and the loss of a young core that would leave with the trade.

I am not concerned about AD having a preference for LA over somewhere or anywhere else. It is only really an issue if AD is willing to force his way there.

I think AD would have come out stronger in his trade demand if that was the case. "LA or nowhere". "Not re-signing with anyone but Lakers" "Don't trade for me, I won't stay there".

AD can shut down any trade he wants and force a trade to any team he wants. But he has to be willing to do that. To be that guy -- the bad guy, the guy people turn against. He has shown no sign of being willing to do that. Until he does, I am not concerned about him forcing his way somewhere.

As it stands now, AD might very well prefer LA over other places but he looks perfectly willing to go somewhere else and stay long term so long as they have a strong team around him. So not concerned at all about LA being his first choice (if it is).

This article sounds like he’s ready to come out and be that guy though, no?! Sounds like it to me. If he pulls that like I said in another thread screw him I don’t want him. But pretty sure Ainges thought is if we land him Kyrie will resign which is the main priority, so we probably give up the farm regardless and hope Kyrie/Brad can get him to stay.

I don't think so. Article not definite enough for me. "sources around league expect agent to..."A bit wishy-washy. It might still go that way but I need something more concrete than that.

AD has to be voiceful. Not just in his desires but also in his willingness to kill anything that isn't his first choice. I'll believe that when I see it ... because most players aren't willing to be that much of the bad guy. Hated by everyone (fans, media) around the league. Enemy #1. It's a big thing and takes a lot of will-power and strength to do.

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Take Kawhi for example. He has probably been the strongest in recent times but he still wasn't willing to kill the Toronto deal. He could've come out and said "no way in hell am I staying in Toronto" or even "no way in hell I am even going there for 1 year" "not showing up for training camp" "sitting out until I get to LA".

But he wasn't willing to do those things so Toronto went through with the deal even though Kawhi was non-committal about re-upping there.

Most players are not willing to be enough of an asshat to force their way somewhere. So I'll believe it when I see AD actually doing it. And that story today is not enough to convince me he'll do it.

But it does make you think twice before making a godfather offer

[greenrunsdeep41]

It’s pretty clear to me that if AD thinks his best shot at championships is with a 34 year old Lebron and not a 25 year old Kyrie, 21 year old Jaylen, 24 year old smart, 29 year old Morris, and a 29 year old Hayward. Then he is dumb and I don’t want him here anyways.

Yes, I think it’s a Horford or Hayward and Tatum deal that ultimately sends AD to us.

Let’s get it strait, this isn’t the NFL and Lebrons jock strap isn’t even sold at the same store as Tom Brady’s.

[apc]

I think NOP should go after Zion, wait for the lottery and try and trade with whoever get the 1st pick.
Might also be worth it to see if Dallas would do Luka for AD. but Dallas probably says no.

[greenrunsdeep41]

I think NOP should go after Zion, wait for the lottery and try and trade with whoever get the 1st pick.
Might also be worth it to see if Dallas would do Luka for AD. but Dallas probably says no.

.... umm, what?