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Re-sign him at a price over $14 mill. He does a lot for the team
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Re: Any Marcus Smart rumors?
« Reply #540 on: July 08, 2018, 11:48:45 AM »

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appears nobody wants him, but Danny


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Re: Any Marcus Smart rumors?
« Reply #541 on: July 08, 2018, 11:50:15 AM »

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I think we need to try to lock up Smart on a multi-year deal.

If he signs the QO, we keep him but probably only for a year. We don't keep his Bird Rights after this year (if he re-signs with QO), right?

No, we keep his bird rights. He'd just be unrestricted so we'd lose the right to match.
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Re: Any Marcus Smart rumors?
« Reply #542 on: July 08, 2018, 12:14:30 PM »

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I think we need to try to lock up Smart on a multi-year deal.

If he signs the QO, we keep him but probably only for a year. We don't keep his Bird Rights after this year (if he re-signs with QO), right?

No, we keep his bird rights. He'd just be unrestricted so we'd lose the right to match.
His value isn't going higher next season
So it will be his choice to stay on the team or not
And if he decide to leave, well i don't want a player who don't want to be here anyway

Re: Any Marcus Smart rumors?
« Reply #543 on: July 08, 2018, 12:28:23 PM »

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I think we need to try to lock up Smart on a multi-year deal.

If he signs the QO, we keep him but probably only for a year. We don't keep his Bird Rights after this year (if he re-signs with QO), right?

No, we keep his bird rights. He'd just be unrestricted so we'd lose the right to match.
His value isn't going higher next season
So it will be his choice to stay on the team or not
And if he decide to leave, well i don't want a player who don't want to be here anyway
He'll have a much better opportunity to get paid next offseason.  He'll be a UFA and teams will have significantly more cap space.  We'll be focused on re-signing Irving and possibly Horford. 
Could end up losing both Smart and Rozier. 

Re: Any Marcus Smart rumors?
« Reply #544 on: July 08, 2018, 01:59:55 PM »

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I think we need to try to lock up Smart on a multi-year deal.

If he signs the QO, we keep him but probably only for a year. We don't keep his Bird Rights after this year (if he re-signs with QO), right?

No, we keep his bird rights. He'd just be unrestricted so we'd lose the right to match.
His value isn't going higher next season
So it will be his choice to stay on the team or not
And if he decide to leave, well i don't want a player who don't want to be here anyway
He'll have a much better opportunity to get paid next offseason.  He'll be a UFA and teams will have significantly more cap space.  We'll be focused on re-signing Irving and possibly Horford. 
Could end up losing both Smart and Rozier.

He *might* get paid more.

First, he could get hurt. With his style of play and history that's a significant risk.

Second, he could plateau or even regress offensively. It'll be one more data point suggesting that he will never develop a quality 3pt shot or offensive game.

Third, there are more teams with cap room, but a lot more players will be free agents too, including a lot of guys who signed one-year contracts or QOs this year to chase the money next year. It's just simple math - higher cap room comes from a higher number of players without contracts.

So, there are a lot of variables that could mean signing something like a 4/40 deal this year is the wise choice. Including the value of a sure thing vs. uncertainty.



Re: Any Marcus Smart rumors?
« Reply #545 on: July 08, 2018, 02:01:18 PM »

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Guy cant shoot and kind of headcase is why no one going give him big money
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Re: Any Marcus Smart rumors?
« Reply #546 on: July 08, 2018, 02:57:31 PM »

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The only teams with cap space to make the Celtics sweat on Marcus Smart are Atlanta, Brooklyn and Sacramento. One team exec said “They all have young PGs they love. Everyone would love to have a guy like Smart, but not for non-contenders who have their own young guys to develop.”

https://twitter.com/KeithSmithNBA/status/1015964234641883136

Re: Any Marcus Smart rumors?
« Reply #547 on: July 08, 2018, 03:24:52 PM »

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The only teams with cap space to make the Celtics sweat on Marcus Smart are Atlanta, Brooklyn and Sacramento. One team exec said “They all have young PGs they love. Everyone would love to have a guy like Smart, but not for non-contenders who have their own young guys to develop.”

https://twitter.com/KeithSmithNBA/status/1015964234641883136

Unless Howard gave back a ton of money, Brooklyn doesn’t the cap space to make Boston sweat at all.  Only Atlanta, Chicago and Sacramento have that space.

Re: Any Marcus Smart rumors?
« Reply #548 on: July 08, 2018, 03:26:12 PM »

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The only teams with cap space to make the Celtics sweat on Marcus Smart are Atlanta, Brooklyn and Sacramento. One team exec said “They all have young PGs they love. Everyone would love to have a guy like Smart, but not for non-contenders who have their own young guys to develop.”

https://twitter.com/KeithSmithNBA/status/1015964234641883136

Unless Howard gave back a ton of money, Brooklyn doesn’t the cap space to make Boston sweat at all.  Only Atlanta, Chicago and Sacramento have that space.

He have back somewhere between $4 - $5 million.


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Re: Any Marcus Smart rumors?
« Reply #549 on: July 08, 2018, 03:33:35 PM »

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The only teams with cap space to make the Celtics sweat on Marcus Smart are Atlanta, Brooklyn and Sacramento. One team exec said “They all have young PGs they love. Everyone would love to have a guy like Smart, but not for non-contenders who have their own young guys to develop.”

https://twitter.com/KeithSmithNBA/status/1015964234641883136

Unless Howard gave back a ton of money, Brooklyn doesn’t the cap space to make Boston sweat at all.  Only Atlanta, Chicago and Sacramento have that space.

He have back somewhere between $4 - $5 million.

He’d need to have given back about $10 million for Brooklyn to be a factor.

Re: Any Marcus Smart rumors?
« Reply #550 on: July 08, 2018, 03:37:42 PM »

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I think we need to try to lock up Smart on a multi-year deal.

If he signs the QO, we keep him but probably only for a year. We don't keep his Bird Rights after this year (if he re-signs with QO), right?

No, we keep his bird rights. He'd just be unrestricted so we'd lose the right to match.
His value isn't going higher next season
So it will be his choice to stay on the team or not
And if he decide to leave, well i don't want a player who don't want to be here anyway
He'll have a much better opportunity to get paid next offseason.  He'll be a UFA and teams will have significantly more cap space.  We'll be focused on re-signing Irving and possibly Horford. 
Could end up losing both Smart and Rozier.
Rozier will be restricted next year. Doubt we lose them both in same year, besides, we could have a very high draft pick, like top 5, to replace Smart, and another pick that could be in the lottery to replace Rozier.

Re: Any Marcus Smart rumors?
« Reply #551 on: July 08, 2018, 04:00:50 PM »

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I think we need to try to lock up Smart on a multi-year deal.

If he signs the QO, we keep him but probably only for a year. We don't keep his Bird Rights after this year (if he re-signs with QO), right?

No, we keep his bird rights. He'd just be unrestricted so we'd lose the right to match.
His value isn't going higher next season
So it will be his choice to stay on the team or not
And if he decide to leave, well i don't want a player who don't want to be here anyway
He'll have a much better opportunity to get paid next offseason.  He'll be a UFA and teams will have significantly more cap space.  We'll be focused on re-signing Irving and possibly Horford. 
Could end up losing both Smart and Rozier.
Rozier will be restricted next year. Doubt we lose them both in same year, besides, we could have a very high draft pick, like top 5, to replace Smart, and another pick that could be in the lottery to replace Rozier.

That top 5 pick needs to go for a big, preferably an actual center.


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Re: Any Marcus Smart rumors?
« Reply #552 on: July 08, 2018, 04:02:30 PM »

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Celts need to get this done and soon. I want a happy Marcus Smart on my team.

Re: Any Marcus Smart rumors?
« Reply #553 on: July 08, 2018, 04:16:58 PM »

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I think we need to try to lock up Smart on a multi-year deal.

If he signs the QO, we keep him but probably only for a year. We don't keep his Bird Rights after this year (if he re-signs with QO), right?

No, we keep his bird rights. He'd just be unrestricted so we'd lose the right to match.
His value isn't going higher next season
So it will be his choice to stay on the team or not
And if he decide to leave, well i don't want a player who don't want to be here anyway
He'll have a much better opportunity to get paid next offseason.  He'll be a UFA and teams will have significantly more cap space.  We'll be focused on re-signing Irving and possibly Horford. 
Could end up losing both Smart and Rozier.
Rozier will be restricted next year. Doubt we lose them both in same year, besides, we could have a very high draft pick, like top 5, to replace Smart, and another pick that could be in the lottery to replace Rozier.

That top 5 pick needs to go for a big, preferably an actual center.
Not a lot of good bigs at the top of next year's draft, unfortunately.

Re: Any Marcus Smart rumors?
« Reply #554 on: July 08, 2018, 04:38:06 PM »

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I think we need to try to lock up Smart on a multi-year deal.

If he signs the QO, we keep him but probably only for a year. We don't keep his Bird Rights after this year (if he re-signs with QO), right?

No, we keep his bird rights. He'd just be unrestricted so we'd lose the right to match.
His value isn't going higher next season
So it will be his choice to stay on the team or not
And if he decide to leave, well i don't want a player who don't want to be here anyway
He'll have a much better opportunity to get paid next offseason.  He'll be a UFA and teams will have significantly more cap space.  We'll be focused on re-signing Irving and possibly Horford. 
Could end up losing both Smart and Rozier.
Rozier will be restricted next year. Doubt we lose them both in same year, besides, we could have a very high draft pick, like top 5, to replace Smart, and another pick that could be in the lottery to replace Rozier.

That top 5 pick needs to go for a big, preferably an actual center.
Not a lot of good bigs at the top of next year's draft, unfortunately.

That's why I didn't want the Celtics giving up the Brooklyn pick last year, but that's a dead issue now, so Danny will have to find a way to make it work.  The Celtics don't need wings.  They need a true big, and it's up to Ainge to get one.


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