Marcus Smart RFA [Merged - finalizing 4 year deal]

[Hoopvortex]

@Saltlover:

Just curious if Marcus does take the QO, what further moves do you think are most likely? And what salary implications are there for next offseason, when Marcus will be much more able to get a much better (and much longer) deal?

It depends when Marcus signs the QO.  If he signs it tomorrow, we’d be at 15, but with enough tax room to sign another player while staying under the tax and releasing Nader without having to stretch him.  I expect that would happen (most likely with Bird being signed, but perhaps a vet free agent).  If Marcus waited until training camp, it’s likely Nader would have been stretched, but perhaps he’d still be on the roster.  Some of that depends on Bird — will he have accepted the QO by then, gotten an offer that we’ve matched, gotten an offer that wasn’t matched, or gone overseas?  Can’t say, honestly.  If Bird has required us to make a decision because he’s gotten another offer, Nader will be off the roster.  And if Marcus waits until training camp, it’s unliekly that a vet that we’d be interested in would be available.

I expect that we would have to wait for a while for Smart.  He knows the team isn’t rescinding the QO, but he can wait until the October 1st deadline to sign it while negotiations continue.  Jabari Bird could be caught in the unfortunate crossfire and not get a deal from anyone, forcing him to a 2-way or Europe.

As for next offseason, the loser would probably be Terry.  If Smart is signed long-term this year and the Celtics re-sign Kyrie, Terry can probably comfortably field offers from teams not worried the Celtics will match.  If Smart is a UFA, the Celtics could let him walk if he got that big offer, and instead keep Rozier for at least one more season on his QO.

I think the C's could alternatively make a case to Rozier to sign a decent extension now. They could offer Rozier the opportunity to claim the 3rd guard slot before offering it to Marcus.

Minutes will be shrinking considerably for these two.  Neither Smart or Rozier wants to hit the market after a year playing 15 minutes a night. It might not be a bad time for all involved to make up their mind what they want going forward. We don't really know who Ainge would keep if he feels he has to pick one.

They could try, but ultimately I think Rozier wants to be a starter in his own right, whereas Marcus doesn’t seem to need that role.

That may be true. But its also possible Rozier may prefer to stay a Celtic, especially if he can be the first guard off the bench.

I still stand by the idea that it may be in everyone's interest to resolve these issues now. Neither Smart or Rozier will likely never again play as much as they did last year for this team. It will only get worse after next year unless Kyrie decides to go elsewhere.

If Rozier wants to be a starter, maybe now is the optimal time for both him and the team to make a move. If we only keep one of these guys, the minutes should be OK. If we keep both, I don't see either being happy with the result.

Realistically we have to keep Rozier until Kyrie re-signs officially. Smart and Bird are not the answer at starting PG..

Jabari Bird is in no sense a point guard.  He isn’t put on point guards to guard. He plays off the ball on offense. He is a classic 2 guard. He has outstanding length but in order to guard bigger wings he needs to get up to 210 or more.

Is Marcus Smart a point guard? Hard to say. For the last two years he has gotten nearly all his minutes with either Rozier or Irving or Thomas on the floor. That allows them to play off the ball, so that they get a break from ball handling. So he’s used as a ballhandler; but he guards wings.

[kraidstar]

A Sherrod Blakely says the Kings are going to make an offer for Smart

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Source: After striking out on Zach Levine, the Sacramento Kings are preparing to put together an offer #Celtics Marcus Smart.

[celticinorlando]

If Kings offer him the deal they offered Levine, Danny better shake his hand, thank him for the service and run as fast as he can away.

Take that cash, resign Terry and add someone new to the team

Would be fine with giving Bird Smart's minutes

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Source: After striking out on Zach Levine, the Sacramento Kings are preparing to put together an offer #Celtics Marcus Smart.

I hope he doesn't want to rot in Sacramento.

Hopefully he and the C's can come to a reasonable deal, maybe this will be the impetus, as he finally has some leverage.

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Source: After striking out on Zach Levine, the Sacramento Kings are preparing to put together an offer #Celtics Marcus Smart.

I hope he doesn't want to rot in Sacramento.

Hopefully he and the C's can come to a reasonable deal, maybe this will be the impetus, as he finally has some leverage.

during the year i said to Smart "hey i'm hearing that the Kings are going to put out a big # to get you in restricted free agency"  (because i did indeed hear that)...and his response was "I hope not"...regardless I wish him the best but I sure hope he stays!

true story

[hwangjini_1]

are you referring to the 4 years $80 million offer? i really doubt they will offer that to smart. but they may offer something in the $14/year range. sacramento is not well run.

[Celtics4ever]

A Sherrod Blakely says the Kings are going to make an offer for Smart

Then he can hurt our draft pick all year.   I don't he meshes well with Fox.

[celticinorlando]

are you referring to the 4 years $80 million offer? i really doubt they will offer that to smart. but they may offer something in the $14/year range. sacramento is not well run.

Exactly my fear. I am not matching anything over 10 mill and giving him 10 mill a season would still be sketchy

[jpotter33]

are you referring to the 4 years $80 million offer? i really doubt they will offer that to smart. but they may offer something in the $14/year range. sacramento is not well run.

Exactly my fear. I am not matching anything over 10 mill and giving him 10 mill a season would still be sketchy

I imagine Danny ends up matching something around $14, but not much higher.

[PAOBoston]

A dumb offer was inevitable after the idiotic Exum deal. I don't blame Smart. If I saw Exum get 11 mil per, I'd think I was worth at least 15 mil per too. Sacramento is dumb enough to give him that too.

The Levine deal doesn't help at all either.

[mr. dee]

One dimensional scorers are more sought by dumb GMs than an elite defensive stopper.

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Source: After striking out on Zach Levine, the Sacramento Kings are preparing to put together an offer #Celtics Marcus Smart.

5:55 PM - 9 Jul 2018 from Paradise, NV

UH OH.

(Well, it is from Blakely, so it's probably wrong LOL. Hopefully it is wrong)

UPDATE: Wow my bad. I sent this via phone but the wifi went off then when it turned back on it posted a while later LOL (and others posted beforehand). Carry on! 

[Phantom255x]

If the Kings offer him 14M/Year or less, I match it.

If it's 15M a year or higher, then sorry Smart, I love you and thank you for everything, but bye bye! Then I'd really prioritize re-signing Rozier going forward and also bringing back Jabari Bird for sure this season.

[SHAQATTACK]

ET should be in jail for that Trailblazer heist .

I don't see a repeat for Smart