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Re: Breaking: Buyout reached with Greg Monroe
« Reply #210 on: February 02, 2018, 12:26:39 PM »

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I get the feeling that Memphis has already agreed to send the Celtics Tyreke Evans for our 2018 1st (why they're sitting him out), but Danny is making them wait to see if they can use the DPE on someone like Monroe. From everything I've read, he doesn't want to use the DPE on Tyreke and leave $5 mil of it on the table.

I also get the feeling that Monroe has already agreed to go to the Pelicans (due to the cost cutting move they made). I understand why this is dumb for him on all levels, but personal relationships and location may be more important than $6 million to him. Obviously it's a no-brainer to go to Boston, but I get the feeling he'll end up with the Pelicans.

Not really interested in debating why I'm wrong (because I probably am).. just putting this out here for post trade deadline heroics.
I like Baynes, but he might be the guy Ainge needs to trade for Evans in order to make this happen. That would free up more minutes for Monroe.

Yeah, agreed. I was thinking that if he gets both Evans and Monroe, Baynes is the guy to trade for Evans. Monroe is an upgrade at everything but defense (specifically block %). It's worth noting though that Baynes has improved +1.0 in DBPM (defensive box per minute) to 2.1 since joining Boston. Monroe is currently 1.4. You've gotta assume that he'll get the +1.0 - +2.0 spike that everyone gets for playing under Brad (because it's pretty much across the board with new acquisitions) and will surpass Baynes on defense as well.

Baynes just has no playing time anymore with Monroe.
I don't agree with this. Baynes and Monroe are two entirely different players. One is a defensive specialist without much of an offensive repertoire; the other is a back-to-the-basket scorer who is a poor defender.

Now, Baynes' playing time would certainly be cut if we were to sign Monroe, but it doesn't mean he would be out of the rotation entirely.

Agree - Baynes' skillset isn't one we highly value but it is one that isn't really redundant with Monroe or anyone currently on the roster.  Interchanging them in scenarios where we prioritize offense or defense would seem a lot more likely.

Re: Breaking: Buyout reached with Greg Monroe
« Reply #211 on: February 02, 2018, 12:30:05 PM »

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If Monroe does sign with the C's for the DPE, I believe he would only get 1/3 (or about 3 million) of it and not the full 8.3 mil, since we're 2/3 of the way into the season. That would be just crazy.

Re: Breaking: Buyout reached with Greg Monroe
« Reply #212 on: February 02, 2018, 12:31:58 PM »

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If Monroe does sign with the C's for the DPE, I believe he would only get 1/3 (or about 3 million) of it and not the full 8.3 mil, since we're 2/3 of the way into the season. That would be just crazy.
The DPE doesn't pro-rate. So he can get 8 million for 1/3 of the season.

I am more curious about how his base annual salary will be calculated for his next contract.
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Re: Breaking: Buyout reached with Greg Monroe
« Reply #213 on: February 02, 2018, 12:32:55 PM »

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If Monroe does sign with the C's for the DPE, I believe he would only get 1/3 (or about 3 million) of it and not the full 8.3 mil, since we're 2/3 of the way into the season. That would be just crazy.

Nope, he’d get the whole thing if that’s what they agreed to.  Unlike other exceptions, the DPE does not pro-rate.  It just vanishes on March 10th if unused.

Re: Breaking: Buyout reached with Greg Monroe
« Reply #214 on: February 02, 2018, 12:39:41 PM »

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If Monroe does sign with the C's for the DPE, I believe he would only get 1/3 (or about 3 million) of it and not the full 8.3 mil, since we're 2/3 of the way into the season. That would be just crazy.

Nope, he’d get the whole thing if that’s what they agreed to.  Unlike other exceptions, the DPE does not pro-rate.  It just vanishes on March 10th if unused.
So a question that's not in Coon's FAQ. We sign someone for $8 million over 30 games with the DPE. Come summertime, what's his base annual salary for non-Bird extension purposes? Is it 8 million or 21.9 million?
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Re: Breaking: Buyout reached with Greg Monroe
« Reply #215 on: February 02, 2018, 12:41:13 PM »

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If Monroe does sign with the C's for the DPE, I believe he would only get 1/3 (or about 3 million) of it and not the full 8.3 mil, since we're 2/3 of the way into the season. That would be just crazy.

Nope, he’d get the whole thing if that’s what they agreed to.  Unlike other exceptions, the DPE does not pro-rate.  It just vanishes on March 10th if unused.
So a question that's not in Coon's FAQ. We sign someone for $8 million over 30 games with the DPE. Come summertime, what's his base annual salary for non-Bird extension purposes? 8 million or 21.3 million?

$8 million.  It’s the same as how cap space is treated, since that also never pro-rates.

Per Wojo: Monroe signing with Boston
« Reply #216 on: February 02, 2018, 12:49:49 PM »

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First domino down...

Greg Monroe: Celtic
« Reply #217 on: February 02, 2018, 12:49:51 PM »

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Per Woj, he's signing with the Cs.

One year $5 million.

Curious what this means for Baynes / Theis playing time.
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Re: Breaking: Buyout reached with Greg Monroe
« Reply #218 on: February 02, 2018, 12:49:58 PM »

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Monroe picks us!

Monroe will sign a one-year, $5M deal with Celtics, league sources tell ESPN. Pelicans could only offer $2.2M.

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/959484030201794560

Re: Greg Monroe: Celtic
« Reply #219 on: February 02, 2018, 12:50:29 PM »

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Woot! Thanks for the info!

Re: Greg Monroe: Celtic
« Reply #220 on: February 02, 2018, 12:51:01 PM »

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YAY!

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Re: Greg Monroe: Celtic
« Reply #221 on: February 02, 2018, 12:51:15 PM »

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Re: Greg Monroe: Celtic
« Reply #222 on: February 02, 2018, 12:51:50 PM »

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Wow. Solid pickup.

And Danny STILL managed to lowball him by only giving up $5 mill of the $8.4 we had to give. Way to not bid against ourselves as many teams would've done.

Re: Greg Monroe: Celtic
« Reply #223 on: February 02, 2018, 12:52:41 PM »

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Re: Greg Monroe: Celtic
« Reply #224 on: February 02, 2018, 12:52:52 PM »

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Yes! This is very good news. I love to have Monroe as a post-up option. And he'd be the best rebounder of the team.