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Quote from: Erik on February 02, 2018, 11:22:53 AMQuote from: DefenseWinsChamps on February 02, 2018, 11:16:32 AMQuote from: Erik on February 02, 2018, 11:07:06 AMI get the feeling that Memphis has already agreed to send the Celtics Tyreke Evans for our 2018 1st (why they're sitting him out), but Danny is making them wait to see if they can use the DPE on someone like Monroe. From everything I've read, he doesn't want to use the DPE on Tyreke and leave $5 mil of it on the table.I also get the feeling that Monroe has already agreed to go to the Pelicans (due to the cost cutting move they made). I understand why this is dumb for him on all levels, but personal relationships and location may be more important than $6 million to him. Obviously it's a no-brainer to go to Boston, but I get the feeling he'll end up with the Pelicans.Not really interested in debating why I'm wrong (because I probably am).. just putting this out here for post trade deadline heroics.I like Baynes, but he might be the guy Ainge needs to trade for Evans in order to make this happen. That would free up more minutes for Monroe.Yeah, agreed. I was thinking that if he gets both Evans and Monroe, Baynes is the guy to trade for Evans. Monroe is an upgrade at everything but defense (specifically block %). It's worth noting though that Baynes has improved +1.0 in DBPM (defensive box per minute) to 2.1 since joining Boston. Monroe is currently 1.4. You've gotta assume that he'll get the +1.0 - +2.0 spike that everyone gets for playing under Brad (because it's pretty much across the board with new acquisitions) and will surpass Baynes on defense as well.Baynes just has no playing time anymore with Monroe.I don't agree with this. Baynes and Monroe are two entirely different players. One is a defensive specialist without much of an offensive repertoire; the other is a back-to-the-basket scorer who is a poor defender.Now, Baynes' playing time would certainly be cut if we were to sign Monroe, but it doesn't mean he would be out of the rotation entirely.
Quote from: DefenseWinsChamps on February 02, 2018, 11:16:32 AMQuote from: Erik on February 02, 2018, 11:07:06 AMI get the feeling that Memphis has already agreed to send the Celtics Tyreke Evans for our 2018 1st (why they're sitting him out), but Danny is making them wait to see if they can use the DPE on someone like Monroe. From everything I've read, he doesn't want to use the DPE on Tyreke and leave $5 mil of it on the table.I also get the feeling that Monroe has already agreed to go to the Pelicans (due to the cost cutting move they made). I understand why this is dumb for him on all levels, but personal relationships and location may be more important than $6 million to him. Obviously it's a no-brainer to go to Boston, but I get the feeling he'll end up with the Pelicans.Not really interested in debating why I'm wrong (because I probably am).. just putting this out here for post trade deadline heroics.I like Baynes, but he might be the guy Ainge needs to trade for Evans in order to make this happen. That would free up more minutes for Monroe.Yeah, agreed. I was thinking that if he gets both Evans and Monroe, Baynes is the guy to trade for Evans. Monroe is an upgrade at everything but defense (specifically block %). It's worth noting though that Baynes has improved +1.0 in DBPM (defensive box per minute) to 2.1 since joining Boston. Monroe is currently 1.4. You've gotta assume that he'll get the +1.0 - +2.0 spike that everyone gets for playing under Brad (because it's pretty much across the board with new acquisitions) and will surpass Baynes on defense as well.Baynes just has no playing time anymore with Monroe.
Quote from: Erik on February 02, 2018, 11:07:06 AMI get the feeling that Memphis has already agreed to send the Celtics Tyreke Evans for our 2018 1st (why they're sitting him out), but Danny is making them wait to see if they can use the DPE on someone like Monroe. From everything I've read, he doesn't want to use the DPE on Tyreke and leave $5 mil of it on the table.I also get the feeling that Monroe has already agreed to go to the Pelicans (due to the cost cutting move they made). I understand why this is dumb for him on all levels, but personal relationships and location may be more important than $6 million to him. Obviously it's a no-brainer to go to Boston, but I get the feeling he'll end up with the Pelicans.Not really interested in debating why I'm wrong (because I probably am).. just putting this out here for post trade deadline heroics.I like Baynes, but he might be the guy Ainge needs to trade for Evans in order to make this happen. That would free up more minutes for Monroe.
I get the feeling that Memphis has already agreed to send the Celtics Tyreke Evans for our 2018 1st (why they're sitting him out), but Danny is making them wait to see if they can use the DPE on someone like Monroe. From everything I've read, he doesn't want to use the DPE on Tyreke and leave $5 mil of it on the table.I also get the feeling that Monroe has already agreed to go to the Pelicans (due to the cost cutting move they made). I understand why this is dumb for him on all levels, but personal relationships and location may be more important than $6 million to him. Obviously it's a no-brainer to go to Boston, but I get the feeling he'll end up with the Pelicans.Not really interested in debating why I'm wrong (because I probably am).. just putting this out here for post trade deadline heroics.
If Monroe does sign with the C's for the DPE, I believe he would only get 1/3 (or about 3 million) of it and not the full 8.3 mil, since we're 2/3 of the way into the season. That would be just crazy.
Quote from: GreenShooter on February 02, 2018, 12:30:05 PMIf Monroe does sign with the C's for the DPE, I believe he would only get 1/3 (or about 3 million) of it and not the full 8.3 mil, since we're 2/3 of the way into the season. That would be just crazy.Nope, he’d get the whole thing if that’s what they agreed to. Unlike other exceptions, the DPE does not pro-rate. It just vanishes on March 10th if unused.
Quote from: saltlover on February 02, 2018, 12:32:55 PMQuote from: GreenShooter on February 02, 2018, 12:30:05 PMIf Monroe does sign with the C's for the DPE, I believe he would only get 1/3 (or about 3 million) of it and not the full 8.3 mil, since we're 2/3 of the way into the season. That would be just crazy.Nope, he’d get the whole thing if that’s what they agreed to. Unlike other exceptions, the DPE does not pro-rate. It just vanishes on March 10th if unused.So a question that's not in Coon's FAQ. We sign someone for $8 million over 30 games with the DPE. Come summertime, what's his base annual salary for non-Bird extension purposes? 8 million or 21.3 million?