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Re: Tyreke Evans rumor
« Reply #105 on: January 30, 2018, 06:53:28 PM »

Offline Snakehead

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I certainly would love either Lou Williams or Tyreke Evans, but my guess is with the Griffin trade, DA covets Williams more. But Evans is a perfect Plan B option.
Evans is a positional need, though. You can only get that much from Semi O.

. (We saw Olynyk do it for us last year in a Game 7, and Gerald Green as well when least expected)

Olynyk and Green were good on offense all year.  Olynyk was great and made the bench unit effective offensively (same thing he is doing in Miami).  If you like Semi that's fine but lets be real, hasn't been remotely near either one of those guys offensively.  It would have to come out of nowhere.
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Re: Tyreke Evans rumor
« Reply #106 on: January 30, 2018, 07:05:38 PM »

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I’m all for bringing in a scorer for off the bench. Reke or Lou, doesn’t matter to me. Lou is definitely the better scorer, but Tyreke may be the better all-around player.

I would love to keep our pick. But if we give it up AND the Lakers pick doesn’t convey, I wouldn’t be too upset not getting into this draft. We would be getting Hayward back and be legit contenders. We would still have young talent blossoming in Tatum, Brown and Rozier. Would we retain Bird Rights on Williams/Evans? If so, we can bring whomever we get back and get a big with the MLE.

Imagine:

Kyrie/Smart?/Rozier
Brown/Evans
Hayward/Semi?
Tatum/Morris
Horford/MLE?/Baynes?/Theis?

That’s just a rough depth chart because in reality almost all of them can play 2-3 positions.
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Re: Tyreke Evans rumor
« Reply #107 on: January 30, 2018, 07:23:03 PM »

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One reason to keep our own first rounder is in case of future trades for someone like AD.  We can't be stuck with the Stepien Rule.

If the Lakers' pick doesn't convey this year, and the C's trade their own #1 pick, then in 2018-19 we won't be able to trade multiple 1st round picks (leaving the C's with no 1st rounders for the second consecutive year). 

It's a lot of maybes, but it's still something to consider.

The Stepein rule only applies to future drafts.  Previous drafts don't have any impact.

I meant we may not want to trade our only 2018 pick for Evans as that would preclude us from trading all four (potentially) first rounders in 2019 for AD.

Re: Tyreke Evans rumor
« Reply #108 on: January 30, 2018, 07:28:41 PM »

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One reason to keep our own first rounder is in case of future trades for someone like AD.  We can't be stuck with the Stepien Rule.

If the Lakers' pick doesn't convey this year, and the C's trade their own #1 pick, then in 2018-19 we won't be able to trade multiple 1st round picks (leaving the C's with no 1st rounders for the second consecutive year). 

It's a lot of maybes, but it's still something to consider.

The Stepein rule only applies to future drafts.  Previous drafts don't have any impact.

I meant we may not want to trade our only 2018 pick for Evans as that would preclude us from trading all four (potentially) first rounders in 2019 for AD.

Well, yes, but only up until the 2018 draft.  The day after the 2018 draft the restriction would be lifted as we have at least 1 pick in 2020.

Re: Tyreke Evans rumor
« Reply #109 on: January 30, 2018, 07:37:26 PM »

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I certainly would love either Lou Williams or Tyreke Evans, but my guess is with the Griffin trade, DA covets Williams more. But Evans is a perfect Plan B option.
Evans is a positional need, though. You can only get that much from Semi O.

About Semi, I think he can grow into a solid role player for us 2 years from now, but I also have a feeling that in one game in these upcoming playoffs, he's going to surprise us all and have a big game leading us to a victory. Idk, just my gut feeling. (We saw Olynyk do it for us last year in a Game 7, and Gerald Green as well when least expected)
Conceptually, grooming guys to be average players for your team is a waste of time and resources. Get the dime-a-dozen guys from the open market.
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Re: Tyreke Evans rumor
« Reply #110 on: January 30, 2018, 08:14:46 PM »

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CBS made a ET a new career and a fortune contract and IT a cult Hero .

I expect he 'd do alot for Evans game and career too. 

Re: Tyreke Evans rumor
« Reply #111 on: January 30, 2018, 08:25:45 PM »

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Update from Mitch Lawrence at Sporting News

http://www.sportingnews.com/nba/news/nba-trade-rumors-deadline-news-tyreke-evans-grizzlies-celtics-sixers-thunder-clippers/1qvqw08f7ujpw1to5swxc6pie5

Celtics are one of four teams interested in Evans. The others are Sixers, Thunder, and Cavs.

The article also mentions the Clippers are expected to move Lou Williams to a contender, namely Boston and Toronto, to clear the books.

Re: Tyreke Evans rumor
« Reply #112 on: January 30, 2018, 08:48:58 PM »

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Update from Mitch Lawrence at Sporting News

http://www.sportingnews.com/nba/news/nba-trade-rumors-deadline-news-tyreke-evans-grizzlies-celtics-sixers-thunder-clippers/1qvqw08f7ujpw1to5swxc6pie5

Celtics are one of four teams interested in Evans. The others are Sixers, Thunder, and Cavs.

The article also mentions the Clippers are expected to move Lou Williams to a contender, namely Boston and Toronto, to clear the books.

Dear Clips and Grizz,
We can only take one of Williams or Evans. Who's willing to take the lowest on return? Let the reverse auction begin!
Love,
Danny Ainge
Celtics fan for life.

Re: Tyreke Evans rumor
« Reply #113 on: January 30, 2018, 10:36:51 PM »

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One reason to keep our own first rounder is in case of future trades for someone like AD.  We can't be stuck with the Stepien Rule.

If the Lakers' pick doesn't convey this year, and the C's trade their own #1 pick, then in 2018-19 we won't be able to trade multiple 1st round picks (leaving the C's with no 1st rounders for the second consecutive year). 

It's a lot of maybes, but it's still something to consider.

The Stepein rule only applies to future drafts.  Previous drafts don't have any impact.

I meant we may not want to trade our only 2018 pick for Evans as that would preclude us from trading all four (potentially) first rounders in 2019 for AD.

Well, yes, but only up until the 2018 draft.  The day after the 2018 draft the restriction would be lifted as we have at least 1 pick in 2020.

Oy I don’t know why this isn’t clear. Apologies if I’m the one misunderstanding. But if we trade our 2018 pick now for Tyreke or Lou Williams, theoretically (and I say that since who knows how many actual picks we’ll have in 2019 and hw many of those it would take to theoretically trade for AD) we would not be able to trade all of our 2019 picks for AD as we’d need to keep at least one to satisfy the Stephen Rule.

My hope/scenario is that we’d want every available asset in 2019 to be able to convey to the Pels to get AD and not lose out on that potential trade because we were required to hold on to one of those picks.

Re: Tyreke Evans rumor
« Reply #114 on: January 30, 2018, 11:35:27 PM »

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One reason to keep our own first rounder is in case of future trades for someone like AD.  We can't be stuck with the Stepien Rule.

If the Lakers' pick doesn't convey this year, and the C's trade their own #1 pick, then in 2018-19 we won't be able to trade multiple 1st round picks (leaving the C's with no 1st rounders for the second consecutive year). 

It's a lot of maybes, but it's still something to consider.

The Stepein rule only applies to future drafts.  Previous drafts don't have any impact.

I meant we may not want to trade our only 2018 pick for Evans as that would preclude us from trading all four (potentially) first rounders in 2019 for AD.

Well, yes, but only up until the 2018 draft.  The day after the 2018 draft the restriction would be lifted as we have at least 1 pick in 2020.

Oy I don’t know why this isn’t clear. Apologies if I’m the one misunderstanding. But if we trade our 2018 pick now for Tyreke or Lou Williams, theoretically (and I say that since who knows how many actual picks we’ll have in 2019 and hw many of those it would take to theoretically trade for AD) we would not be able to trade all of our 2019 picks for AD as we’d need to keep at least one to satisfy the Stephen Rule.

My hope/scenario is that we’d want every available asset in 2019 to be able to convey to the Pels to get AD and not lose out on that potential trade because we were required to hold on to one of those picks.
As good as AD is he is too injury prone to go that far
i don't think danny is going that route

Re: Tyreke Evans rumor
« Reply #115 on: January 31, 2018, 12:25:55 AM »

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I'd take Evans over Williams because I dont think you can play Williams and Irving together defensively.  Evans fit the lineup with either Rozier or Irving.

Re: Tyreke Evans rumor
« Reply #116 on: January 31, 2018, 01:14:38 AM »

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One reason to keep our own first rounder is in case of future trades for someone like AD.  We can't be stuck with the Stepien Rule.

If the Lakers' pick doesn't convey this year, and the C's trade their own #1 pick, then in 2018-19 we won't be able to trade multiple 1st round picks (leaving the C's with no 1st rounders for the second consecutive year). 

It's a lot of maybes, but it's still something to consider.

The Stepein rule only applies to future drafts.  Previous drafts don't have any impact.

I meant we may not want to trade our only 2018 pick for Evans as that would preclude us from trading all four (potentially) first rounders in 2019 for AD.

Well, yes, but only up until the 2018 draft.  The day after the 2018 draft the restriction would be lifted as we have at least 1 pick in 2020.

Oy I don’t know why this isn’t clear. Apologies if I’m the one misunderstanding. But if we trade our 2018 pick now for Tyreke or Lou Williams, theoretically (and I say that since who knows how many actual picks we’ll have in 2019 and hw many of those it would take to theoretically trade for AD) we would not be able to trade all of our 2019 picks for AD as we’d need to keep at least one to satisfy the Stephen Rule.

My hope/scenario is that we’d want every available asset in 2019 to be able to convey to the Pels to get AD and not lose out on that potential trade because we were required to hold on to one of those picks.

Yes, if we traded our own 2018 #1 pick today, we would not be able to trade all of our 2019 1st round picks (however many that may be).  But that is only true up until the 2018 draft.  As soon as the 2018 draft is over that restriction no longer exists, and we would be able to trade all of our 2019 1st round draft pick (however many that may be), so long as we had at least 1 2020 1st round draft pick.

Davis is not likely to be available between now and the draft, so this really doesn't matter. 

Re: Tyreke Evans rumor
« Reply #117 on: January 31, 2018, 01:29:20 AM »

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One can only surmise that Danny is locked in a bidding war (or an imaginary bidding war) with someone else.

I presume Memphis will hold out until an hour before the deadline.
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Re: Tyreke Evans rumor
« Reply #118 on: January 31, 2018, 02:49:58 AM »

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One reason to keep our own first rounder is in case of future trades for someone like AD.  We can't be stuck with the Stepien Rule.

If the Lakers' pick doesn't convey this year, and the C's trade their own #1 pick, then in 2018-19 we won't be able to trade multiple 1st round picks (leaving the C's with no 1st rounders for the second consecutive year). 

It's a lot of maybes, but it's still something to consider.

The Stepein rule only applies to future drafts.  Previous drafts don't have any impact.

I meant we may not want to trade our only 2018 pick for Evans as that would preclude us from trading all four (potentially) first rounders in 2019 for AD.


Well, yes, but only up until the 2018 draft.  The day after the 2018 draft the restriction would be lifted as we have at least 1 pick in 2020.

Oy I don’t know why this isn’t clear. Apologies if I’m the one misunderstanding. But if we trade our 2018 pick now for Tyreke or Lou Williams, theoretically (and I say that since who knows how many actual picks we’ll have in 2019 and hw many of those it would take to theoretically trade for AD) we would not be able to trade all of our 2019 picks for AD as we’d need to keep at least one to satisfy the Stephen Rule.

My hope/scenario is that we’d want every available asset in 2019 to be able to convey to the Pels to get AD and not lose out on that potential trade because we were required to hold on to one of those picks.

I understand you, but i believe that its not a big deal. If we trade our 2018st, we can teoretically trade 2019Kings, 2019Grizzlies, 2019Clippers and 2020Celtics first. We would keep 2019Celtics pick and satisfied the rule...and i don't believe that 29th or 30th pick in a draft could be a deal-breaker in any scenario...we can always buy pick in neighborhood 33-38 who's actually more valuable then 28-30 in some cases....
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Re: Tyreke Evans rumor
« Reply #119 on: January 31, 2018, 03:45:45 AM »

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Update from Mitch Lawrence at Sporting News

http://www.sportingnews.com/nba/news/nba-trade-rumors-deadline-news-tyreke-evans-grizzlies-celtics-sixers-thunder-clippers/1qvqw08f7ujpw1to5swxc6pie5

Celtics are one of four teams interested in Evans. The others are Sixers, Thunder, and Cavs.

The article also mentions the Clippers are expected to move Lou Williams to a contender, namely Boston and Toronto, to clear the books.

Dear Clips and Grizz,
We can only take one of Williams or Evans. Who's willing to take the lowest on return? Let the reverse auction begin!
Love,
Danny Ainge

Kind of ironic those are the two teams’ future firsts we own. I really think Danny gets one of them before the deadline and solves the bench’s scoring issues.
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