Will Semi "eclipse" Crowder

[Celtics4ever]

I know he is just as strong if not stronger and Semi is a better athlete.   He has all the tools to be better but the jury is out on his mental toughness which like him or not, Crowder had some of that.

I think it is possible, but it may take a few years.   One good game does not a star make....

[Billz401]

I know he is just as strong if not stronger and Semi is a better athlete.   He has all the tools to be better but the jury is out on his mental toughness which like him or not, Crowder had some of that.

Wait, the same guy who was mad at Celtics fans for cheering for Hayward and constantly went to social media to cry and moan had mental toughness??

[Androslav]

From all the watching of the topic title I am starting to view the "eclipse" as Semi "the Eclipse" Ojeleye.
I just hope he is the celestial body and not the rare comet like phenomenon mentioned in the word meaning.

Eclipse verb
an obscuring of the light from one celestial body by the passage of another between it and the observer or between it and its source of illumination.

Eclipse noun
(of a celestial body) obscure the light from or to (another celestial body).
"Jupiter was eclipsed by the Moon"

...the other, sort of a "Nomen est Omen" fate, would be that he is just the Semi, half of what he could have become.

[ChillyWilly]

Here is what I like about Semi so far.

1. He moves his feet very well keeping his body between the defender and the basket. Watch him defend a player trying to go baseline and it's an carbon copy of what Brad teaches.

2. Which leads me to...if you perfectly copying what Brad is teaching he must be quick learner. Watching him play is very interesting because he seems to play within the system knowing his place in it. Maybe I'm seeing it wrong but it appears he's actively looking to be where Brad wants him. Yes I've seen the times where is was woefully out of place but he seems to be aware that he was by his body language. I like that shows he owns his mistakes and will try to improve on it.

3. Nice stroke. Not mind blowing but smooth and reliable in the early going.

I'm not comparing him to Jae because I think Crowder filled a need during the rebuild/transition where Semi will be a rotation guy for the next few years much like Brad uses Troz III

[nickagneta]

Crowder was a starter that was a plus defender who averaged 14 PPG, got 5+ RPG and scored efficiently, especially last year with a TS% of 61%. This all while playing 30MPG.

Simply put, Ojeleye will never achieve this type of success with the Celtics because he is going to have Brown, Hayward, Morris and Tatum in front of him.

If Semi is ever going to eclipse Crowder as a player, it will be for some other team. It won't be here.

[ChillyWilly]

Crowder was a starter that was a plus defender who averaged 14 PPG, got 5+ RPG and scored efficiently, especially last year with a TS% of 61%. This all while playing 30MPG.

Simply put, Ojeleye will never achieve this type of success with the Celtics because he is going to have Brown, Hayward, Morris and Tatum in front of him.

If Semi is ever going to eclipse Crowder as a player, it will be for some other team. It won't be here.

TP ^^ 100% agree

[Eddie20]

Seven games, 3.0 points, 33.3% FG%, 31.3% 3PT%, worst DRtg of any rotation player.

Crowder was an above-average starter last year. Let’s keep some perspective.

A voice of reason. To add to that in the hustle stats over 101 minutes he has 10 rebounds, 1 steal, and 0 blocks.

The OP though has this unusual spin on things. If Semi hits a few shots, he loses his mind. If he has a stinker, it changes to Semi only being a rookie. The OP has all his bases covered and no longer even makes a post on that scrub Nader. Now the moment he hits a few shots, like clockwork the thread will emerge on Nader being some sort of celestial being. Take off the green goggles, buddy.

[jambr380]

Seven games, 3.0 points, 33.3% FG%, 31.3% 3PT%, worst DRtg of any rotation player.

Crowder was an above-average starter last year. Let’s keep some perspective.

A voice of reason. To add to that in the hustle stats over 101 minutes he has 10 rebounds, 1 steal, and 0 blocks.

The OP though has this unusual spin on things. If Semi hits a few shots, he loses his mind. If he has a stinker, it changes to Semi only being a rookie. The OP has all his bases covered and no longer even makes a post on that scrub Nader. Now the moment he hits a few shots, like clockwork the thread will emerge on Nader being some sort of celestial being. Take off the green goggles, buddy.

I know LarBrd is gone (hopefully not for good), but geez! Rollie has a different style than other posters and may get a little excited over marginal prospects, but we need all types to make the CB world spin.

It's generally pretty easy to spot his threads - it maybe best to just not click on them.

[jdz101]

Seven games, 3.0 points, 33.3% FG%, 31.3% 3PT%, worst DRtg of any rotation player.

Crowder was an above-average starter last year. Let’s keep some perspective.

A voice of reason. To add to that in the hustle stats over 101 minutes he has 10 rebounds, 1 steal, and 0 blocks.

The OP though has this unusual spin on things. If Semi hits a few shots, he loses his mind. If he has a stinker, it changes to Semi only being a rookie. The OP has all his bases covered and no longer even makes a post on that scrub Nader. Now the moment he hits a few shots, like clockwork the thread will emerge on Nader being some sort of celestial being. Take off the green goggles, buddy.

I know LarBrd is gone (hopefully not for good), but geez! Rollie has a different style than other posters and may get a little excited over marginal prospects, but we need all types to make the CB world spin.

It's generally pretty easy to spot his threads - it maybe best to just not click on them.

LarBrd predominantly hovers around Celtics and Sixers reddit these days.

[Celtics4ever]

Wait, the same guy who was mad at Celtics fans for cheering for Hayward and constantly went to social media to cry and moan had mental toughness??

He definitely had some during games.  He would wipe the floor with 99% of this blog in terms of toughness, too.

[Eddie20]

Seven games, 3.0 points, 33.3% FG%, 31.3% 3PT%, worst DRtg of any rotation player.

Crowder was an above-average starter last year. Let’s keep some perspective.

A voice of reason. To add to that in the hustle stats over 101 minutes he has 10 rebounds, 1 steal, and 0 blocks.

The OP though has this unusual spin on things. If Semi hits a few shots, he loses his mind. If he has a stinker, it changes to Semi only being a rookie. The OP has all his bases covered and no longer even makes a post on that scrub Nader. Now the moment he hits a few shots, like clockwork the thread will emerge on Nader being some sort of celestial being. Take off the green goggles, buddy.

I know LarBrd is gone (hopefully not for good), but geez! Rollie has a different style than other posters and may get a little excited over marginal prospects, but we need all types to make the CB world spin.

It's generally pretty easy to spot his threads - it maybe best to just not click on them.

LarBrd predominantly hovers around Celtics and Sixers reddit these days.

Don't let his silence fool you...he still lurks this board, we still communicate, and I still give it to him about his Sixers.                       

[Ilikesports17]

Wait, the same guy who was mad at Celtics fans for cheering for Hayward and constantly went to social media to cry and moan had mental toughness??

He definitely had some during games.  He would wipe the floor with 99% of this blog in terms of toughness, too.

I imagine most NBA players would.

[rochrist]

Seven games, 3.0 points, 33.3% FG%, 31.3% 3PT%, worst DRtg of any rotation player.

Crowder was an above-average starter last year. Let’s keep some perspective.

Jae this year. 7.5 points a game on 37% shooting, 28% from 3. That's while still getting 26 minutes a game as opposed to Semi's 14.

[rochrist]

Seven games, 3.0 points, 33.3% FG%, 31.3% 3PT%, worst DRtg of any rotation player.

Crowder was an above-average starter last year. Let’s keep some perspective.

When deciding who is better for this team today, I think the better way to look at is this:

If Danny got a call from CLE, asking them if we would take Crowder for Semi, do you think he would accept it?  Assuming salary matches, etc.  I think he would pass, because I think he feels that Semi is more athletic, defends bigs better, and will eventually match or surpass Crowder offensively.

Danny would take that and laugh all the way to the bank.  A starting level player on a great contract vs. a second rounder (on the chance that they *might* eventually be as good)? Come on.

He's only a starting level player on a non-contender. You might keep in mind that Jae was a second rounder too.

[rollie mass]

A Rookie so early in his career specifically inserted into lineup to guard lebron ,porzingis,,giannis, that is continually being praised by Brad for his defense while gaining traction in rotation.The best athlete at combine,hit the three at over 40% last season.Was a national recruit for Duke.Semi is not a fluke'He attended Hoops House with Tatum watch that video for the type of preparation  and dedication.Its rare to see the blend of athleticism with the physique he has,along with shooting ability.
I mentioned poetic license in original post with use of eclipse.There was an outcry of concern about our defense without Avery and Crowder.And i have watched closely that aspect
A great coach a motivator and a group of young talent to mold and he states what i see.
I believe that semi will be a fixture for years here as a defensive stopper who knocks down threes
I could lament the loss of crowder  but he is now a Cavalier and would have been possibly disruptive with Gordon and blocked progress of kids.It is not me manufacturing that he has lost a step -it is the press .
Nader,Nader ,Nader i stopped reporting on him because he is not in d league
Against Kings started poorly rushed or nervous with several turnovers  but worked through it had 7 points in 14 mins ,1 rebound ,1 assist and a block -shot about 50% and hit a three -even Brad stated he recovered nicely.
My focus on Nader was when we had James Young on bench and Nader was having a stellar season with red claws-he is here and James is not-It takes hard work to even be at end of bench with these Celtics not just a draft number.
As to covering bases,it seems you have to with all the critics on this board-i have played the game and been a celtic fan for 60 years-i better see Green, when watching our young players
Some of us have lived through the Laker ,Philly,Knicks and Chicago eras know about rivalry.