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Re: Will Semi "eclipse" Crowder
« Reply #60 on: November 03, 2017, 04:14:13 AM »

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Crowder was a starter that was a plus defender who averaged 14 PPG, got 5+ RPG and scored efficiently, especially last year with a TS% of 61%. This all while playing 30MPG.

Simply put, Ojeleye will never achieve this type of success with the Celtics because he is going to have Brown, Hayward, Morris, and Tatum in front of him.

If Semi is ever going to eclipse Crowder as a player, it will be for some other team. It won't be here.
I respectfully disagree. I am not suggesting this will surely happen but there is a "Semi"-realistic path to it.
Lets fast forward 2 years:
- Semi develops into more rounded role player by then. Defending 3, 4 or 5 positions on switches, hitting open 3's. Playing within himself.
- If we truly trade for AD, one of Tatum/Brown will probably leave.
- Morris's contract is up and he is out, Looking for a better paycheck after his longterm bellow market deal.

Some 50-55 wing minutes have just become available.

I could imagine Semi playing 25-28 mpg, 5 less than Crowder did, and matching his contribution. I don't think it would necessarily come up in a traditional boxscore. Crowder also had much less talented teammates than Semi currently has, so he had more space and opportunity. Now, Crowdy would hardly log the minutes he did last year even with GH out.

3&D guys, Ojeleyes archetype, are so interchangeable, if/whoever gets injured between our 2-4 spots can be replaced by such player.

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Re: Will Semi "eclipse" Crowder
« Reply #61 on: November 03, 2017, 09:38:18 AM »

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Crowder was a starter that was a plus defender who averaged 14 PPG, got 5+ RPG and scored efficiently, especially last year with a TS% of 61%. This all while playing 30MPG.

Simply put, Ojeleye will never achieve this type of success with the Celtics because he is going to have Brown, Hayward, Morris, and Tatum in front of him.

If Semi is ever going to eclipse Crowder as a player, it will be for some other team. It won't be here.
I respectfully disagree. I am not suggesting this will surely happen but there is a "Semi"-realistic path to it.
Lets fast forward 2 years:
- Semi develops into more rounded role player by then. Defending 3, 4 or 5 positions on switches, hitting open 3's. Playing within himself.
- If we truly trade for AD, one of Tatum/Brown will probably leave.
- Morris's contract is up and he is out, Looking for a better paycheck after his longterm bellow market deal.

Some 50-55 wing minutes have just become available.

I could imagine Semi playing 25-28 mpg, 5 less than Crowder did, and matching his contribution. I don't think it would necessarily come up in a traditional boxscore. Crowder also had much less talented teammates than Semi currently has, so he had more space and opportunity. Now, Crowdy would hardly log the minutes he did last year even with GH out.

3&D guys, Ojeleyes archetype, are so interchangeable, if/whoever gets injured between our 2-4 spots can be replaced by such player.
I respectfully disagree that your scenario is even "semi" realistic

Ojeleye buries corner three
« Reply #62 on: November 04, 2017, 06:11:06 AM »

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Hits a big shot with 5 minutes to tie the game while getting burn for the 4th quarter for defense until 1.30 minute mark-also tied up a loose ball making his presence felt.
Not bad for our 2nd round rookie..For Ojeleye to be trusted down that stretch during 4th quarter will be a big confidence boost.Jayson seems to get to the basket at will ,did all the hard work but just missed on a couple easy finishes on soft touche roll outs.
That was a good game from our two rookies..
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Re: Ojeleye buries corner three
« Reply #63 on: November 04, 2017, 07:02:37 AM »

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Hits a big shot with 6 minutes to go while getting burn for defense plays till 1.30 minute mark-
Not bad for our 2nd round rookie..For Ojeleye to be trusted down the stretch will be a big confidence boost.Jayson seems to get to the basket at will ,did all the hard work but just missed on his finishes.
That was a good game from our two rookies..

 I was thinking the same thing about Semi - getting important minutes,Trusted by Brad.
Jaylen kept his head in the game despite a rough 1st half . Brad continues to show how much he loves having jaylen on the floor.

Re: Ojeleye buries corner three
« Reply #64 on: November 04, 2017, 07:14:42 AM »

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Also Brad had some intuition starting Marcus Morris after tough first half-players respond to this kind of action-Brad gets an A+in using rookies and Jaylen.

Re: Ojeleye buries corner three
« Reply #65 on: November 04, 2017, 08:11:13 AM »

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Ojeleye has really impressed me with his overall game. His defense has been solid then not afraid to take and make the big shot. Very impressed. Danny is so smart. Theis is better than Zizic while all the talk was Zizic before the season and Ojeleye is better than Yabu and is carving out some minutes on this team


Re: Ojeleye buries corner three
« Reply #66 on: November 04, 2017, 08:13:08 AM »

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Re: Will Semi "eclipse" Crowder
« Reply #67 on: November 04, 2017, 08:17:57 AM »

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So, is Semi’s name pronounced “Shimmy” ?

Scal was calling him that all night...

Re: Will Semi "eclipse" Crowder
« Reply #68 on: November 04, 2017, 08:27:54 AM »

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Semi has the strength and athleticism to guard veteran pros.   His shot is a bonus.

Re: Ojeleye buries corner three
« Reply #69 on: November 04, 2017, 08:33:05 AM »

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Ojeleye has really impressed me with his overall game. His defense has been solid then not afraid to take and make the big shot. Very impressed. Danny is so smart. Theis is better than Zizic while all the talk was Zizic before the season and Ojeleye is better than Yabu and is carving out some minutes on this team

Gonna be real tough for Yabu to carve a niche on this team, but at least he is on a rookie deal, so there's no hurry.
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Re: Ojeleye buries corner three
« Reply #70 on: November 04, 2017, 08:47:13 AM »

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We don’t need a new thread every time somebody hits a shot. I merged this one.

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Re: Will Semi "eclipse" Crowder
« Reply #71 on: November 04, 2017, 09:06:20 AM »

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In terms of who you'd rather have on your team and who makes your team better Semi has already eclipsed Crowder

Re: Ojeleye buries corner three
« Reply #72 on: November 04, 2017, 09:07:14 AM »

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We don’t need a new thread every time somebody hits a shot. I merged this one.

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« Reply #73 on: November 04, 2017, 09:40:19 AM »

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We don’t need a new thread every time somebody hits a shot. I merged this one.

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Re: Ojeleye buries corner three
« Reply #74 on: November 04, 2017, 09:49:41 AM »

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We don’t need a new thread every time somebody hits a shot. I merged this one.

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