Gonna Say A Lot of Things to Make Some People Mad

[SHAQATTACK]

In what world do we have championship guards?? The champs have a better back court than us, along with being superior at almost all positions.

I said we had championship level guards not the best backcourt. But when you have an All-Star PG that was top 3 in scoring paired with a SG known as one of the best onball defenders in the league AND averages 18ppg... that's championship caliber right there.

One of these guys is gone next year.  Then what?

Both undersized, AB is injury prone can't dribble and is one of the worse passers in the league.

These facts are over looked by many and several of DAs favorite players are way over valued .  Danny is addicted to gambling .....he does not know when to,cash in and leave the table. 

[Dchuck]

In what world do we have championship guards?? The champs have a better back court than us, along with being superior at almost all positions.

I said we had championship level guards not the best backcourt. But when you have an All-Star PG that was top 3 in scoring paired with a SG known as one of the best onball defenders in the league AND averages 18ppg... that's championship caliber right there.

One of these guys is gone next year.  Then what?

Both undersized, AB is injury prone can't dribble and is one of the worse passers in the league.

These facts are over looked by many and several of DAs favorite players are way over valued .  Danny is addicted to gambling .....he does not know when to,cash in and leave the table.

Bingo! Tp

[__ramonezy__]

In what world do we have championship guards?? The champs have a better back court than us, along with being superior at almost all positions.

Washington has a better back-court than we do. Tell me you wouldn't trade IT and Avery
straight up for Wall/Beal ? seriously.

I would do that trade in a heartbeat. Don't know what you're getting at... I said we have championship caliber guards, not the best guards. So let me put it another way, we won 50+ games and made it to the ECF largely based on our guard play. If you disagree with that let me know... simply put our guards aren't our weakness, they're our strength

Answer this!

Who in our guard rotation not named IT can consistently score or get a bucket when we desperately need one?

Scratch that!

Who on our TEAM not named IT can consistently  score or get a bucket when we desperately need one?

Winning 50+ games and making the ECF was cute.  But let's stop kidding ourselves we NEED a major influx of special talent not more middling dirt dog, hustling, high motor, "dime a dozen", non dribbling, non shooting, non creating role players.  This entire team is made up of them.

Lol that argument is simplistic, why would I name someone from our rotation other than IT that can score if IT is a part of our rotation? The 2017 team was built around IT penetrating, which is why Crowder worked on hia 3point shot and why Jaylen is now working on spot up 3s in the corner... there is no need for 2018 to be so constructed... especially if we get a Hayward

But I do agree we need more scorers, but we need players that score in different ways. Fultz method of scoring is just like ITs, so one defensive plan takes out two players. With scorers at different positions it becomes more difficult to defend. Porter at the 3 or 4 is a problem, Ayton at the 5 is a problem... the problem with our scoring now is that it is too perimeter based... so if shots not falling we're doomed.

[BlackCeltic]

In what world do we have championship guards?? The champs have a better back court than us, along with being superior at almost all positions.

Washington has a better back-court than we do. Tell me you wouldn't trade IT and Avery
straight up for Wall/Beal ? seriously.

I would do that trade in a heartbeat. Don't know what you're getting at... I said we have championship caliber guards, not the best guards. So let me put it another way, we won 50+ games and made it to the ECF largely based on our guard play. If you disagree with that let me know... simply put our guards aren't our weakness, they're our strength

Answer this!

Who in our guard rotation not named IT can consistently score or get a bucket when we desperately need one?

Scratch that!

Who on our TEAM not named IT can consistently  score or get a bucket when we desperately need one?

Winning 50+ games and making the ECF was cute.  But let's stop kidding ourselves we NEED a major influx of special talent not more middling dirt dog, hustling, high motor, "dime a dozen", non dribbling, non shooting, non creating role players.  This entire team is made up of them.

Lol that argument is simplistic, why would I name someone from our rotation other than IT that can score if IT is a part of our rotation? The 2017 team was built around IT penetrating, which is why Crowder worked on hia 3point shot and why Jaylen is now working on spot up 3s in the corner... there is no need for 2018 to be so constructed... especially if we get a Hayward

But I do agree we need more scorers, but we need players that score in different ways. Fultz method of scoring is just like ITs, so one defensive plan takes out two players. With scorers at different positions it becomes more difficult to defend. Porter at the 3 or 4 is a problem, Ayton at the 5 is a problem... the problem with our scoring now is that it is too perimeter based... so if shots not falling we're doomed.

We don't have a 2 guard that can create their own shot and finish consistently like Fultz. We need that.

[Dchuck]

In what world do we have championship guards?? The champs have a better back court than us, along with being superior at almost all positions.

Washington has a better back-court than we do. Tell me you wouldn't trade IT and Avery
straight up for Wall/Beal ? seriously.

I would do that trade in a heartbeat. Don't know what you're getting at... I said we have championship caliber guards, not the best guards. So let me put it another way, we won 50+ games and made it to the ECF largely based on our guard play. If you disagree with that let me know... simply put our guards aren't our weakness, they're our strength

Answer this!

Who in our guard rotation not named IT can consistently score or get a bucket when we desperately need one?

Scratch that!

Who on our TEAM not named IT can consistently  score or get a bucket when we desperately need one?

Winning 50+ games and making the ECF was cute.  But let's stop kidding ourselves we NEED a major influx of special talent not more middling dirt dog, hustling, high motor, "dime a dozen", non dribbling, non shooting, non creating role players.  This entire team is made up of them.

Lol that argument is simplistic, why would I name someone from our rotation other than IT that can score if IT is a part of our rotation? The 2017 team was built around IT penetrating, which is why Crowder worked on hia 3point shot and why Jaylen is now working on spot up 3s in the corner... there is no need for 2018 to be so constructed... especially if we get a Hayward

But I do agree we need more scorers, but we need players that score in different ways. Fultz method of scoring is just like ITs, so one defensive plan takes out two players. With scorers at different positions it becomes more difficult to defend. Porter at the 3 or 4 is a problem, Ayton at the 5 is a problem... the problem with our scoring now is that it is too perimeter based... so if shots not falling we're doomed.

You're making my point.

Why would you name someone other than IT?  YOU CANT!

The 2017 team built around IT was/is flawed!  If you're depending on Crowder and Jaylen turning into the shooters we need, then we really are doomed.  While we're at let's hope Kendrick Brown, Rondo and Smart develop one too.

We need scorers PERIOD!  It doesn't matter where they come from.  Look at GSW, Portland, Washington, Houston.

And u keep talking about next year's draft.  We're not guaranteed to get any of those guys.  Danny might end up trading those picks too!

[__ramonezy__]

In what world do we have championship guards?? The champs have a better back court than us, along with being superior at almost all positions.

Washington has a better back-court than we do. Tell me you wouldn't trade IT and Avery
straight up for Wall/Beal ? seriously.

I would do that trade in a heartbeat. Don't know what you're getting at... I said we have championship caliber guards, not the best guards. So let me put it another way, we won 50+ games and made it to the ECF largely based on our guard play. If you disagree with that let me know... simply put our guards aren't our weakness, they're our strength

Answer this!

Who in our guard rotation not named IT can consistently score or get a bucket when we desperately need one?

Scratch that!

Who on our TEAM not named IT can consistently  score or get a bucket when we desperately need one?

Winning 50+ games and making the ECF was cute.  But let's stop kidding ourselves we NEED a major influx of special talent not more middling dirt dog, hustling, high motor, "dime a dozen", non dribbling, non shooting, non creating role players.  This entire team is made up of them.

Lol that argument is simplistic, why would I name someone from our rotation other than IT that can score if IT is a part of our rotation? The 2017 team was built around IT penetrating, which is why Crowder worked on hia 3point shot and why Jaylen is now working on spot up 3s in the corner... there is no need for 2018 to be so constructed... especially if we get a Hayward

But I do agree we need more scorers, but we need players that score in different ways. Fultz method of scoring is just like ITs, so one defensive plan takes out two players. With scorers at different positions it becomes more difficult to defend. Porter at the 3 or 4 is a problem, Ayton at the 5 is a problem... the problem with our scoring now is that it is too perimeter based... so if shots not falling we're doomed.

We don't have a 2 guard that can create their own shot and finish consistently like Fultz. We need that.

You do realize that the best 2 guards can't do that right? Klay can't, Beal can't, McCollum can't so why does that now become a requirement for our success. Actually of legitimate 2 guards only DeRozan comes to mind that fit your description

[Dchuck]

In what world do we have championship guards?? The champs have a better back court than us, along with being superior at almost all positions.

Washington has a better back-court than we do. Tell me you wouldn't trade IT and Avery
straight up for Wall/Beal ? seriously.

I would do that trade in a heartbeat. Don't know what you're getting at... I said we have championship caliber guards, not the best guards. So let me put it another way, we won 50+ games and made it to the ECF largely based on our guard play. If you disagree with that let me know... simply put our guards aren't our weakness, they're our strength

Answer this!

Who in our guard rotation not named IT can consistently score or get a bucket when we desperately need one?

Scratch that!

Who on our TEAM not named IT can consistently  score or get a bucket when we desperately need one?

Winning 50+ games and making the ECF was cute.  But let's stop kidding ourselves we NEED a major influx of special talent not more middling dirt dog, hustling, high motor, "dime a dozen", non dribbling, non shooting, non creating role players.  This entire team is made up of them.

Lol that argument is simplistic, why would I name someone from our rotation other than IT that can score if IT is a part of our rotation? The 2017 team was built around IT penetrating, which is why Crowder worked on hia 3point shot and why Jaylen is now working on spot up 3s in the corner... there is no need for 2018 to be so constructed... especially if we get a Hayward

But I do agree we need more scorers, but we need players that score in different ways. Fultz method of scoring is just like ITs, so one defensive plan takes out two players. With scorers at different positions it becomes more difficult to defend. Porter at the 3 or 4 is a problem, Ayton at the 5 is a problem... the problem with our scoring now is that it is too perimeter based... so if shots not falling we're doomed.

We don't have a 2 guard that can create their own shot and finish consistently like Fultz. We need that.

You do realize that the best 2 guards can't do that right? Klay can't, Beal can't, McCollum can't so why does that now become a requirement for our success. Actually of legitimate 2 guards only DeRozan comes to mind that fit your description

But they can consistently MAKE SHOTS!  And all those players u mentioned are better than everyone in our guard rotation not named IT.

[BlackCeltic]

In what world do we have championship guards?? The champs have a better back court than us, along with being superior at almost all positions.

Washington has a better back-court than we do. Tell me you wouldn't trade IT and Avery
straight up for Wall/Beal ? seriously.

I would do that trade in a heartbeat. Don't know what you're getting at... I said we have championship caliber guards, not the best guards. So let me put it another way, we won 50+ games and made it to the ECF largely based on our guard play. If you disagree with that let me know... simply put our guards aren't our weakness, they're our strength

Answer this!

Who in our guard rotation not named IT can consistently score or get a bucket when we desperately need one?

Scratch that!

Who on our TEAM not named IT can consistently  score or get a bucket when we desperately need one?

Winning 50+ games and making the ECF was cute.  But let's stop kidding ourselves we NEED a major influx of special talent not more middling dirt dog, hustling, high motor, "dime a dozen", non dribbling, non shooting, non creating role players.  This entire team is made up of them.

Lol that argument is simplistic, why would I name someone from our rotation other than IT that can score if IT is a part of our rotation? The 2017 team was built around IT penetrating, which is why Crowder worked on hia 3point shot and why Jaylen is now working on spot up 3s in the corner... there is no need for 2018 to be so constructed... especially if we get a Hayward

But I do agree we need more scorers, but we need players that score in different ways. Fultz method of scoring is just like ITs, so one defensive plan takes out two players. With scorers at different positions it becomes more difficult to defend. Porter at the 3 or 4 is a problem, Ayton at the 5 is a problem... the problem with our scoring now is that it is too perimeter based... so if shots not falling we're doomed.

We don't have a 2 guard that can create their own shot and finish consistently like Fultz. We need that.

You do realize that the best 2 guards can't do that right? Klay can't, Beal can't, McCollum can't so why does that now become a requirement for our success. Actually of legitimate 2 guards only DeRozan comes to mind that fit your description

So you don't want a player that comes around once every 10 years?

[__ramonezy__]

In what world do we have championship guards?? The champs have a better back court than us, along with being superior at almost all positions.

Washington has a better back-court than we do. Tell me you wouldn't trade IT and Avery
straight up for Wall/Beal ? seriously.

I would do that trade in a heartbeat. Don't know what you're getting at... I said we have championship caliber guards, not the best guards. So let me put it another way, we won 50+ games and made it to the ECF largely based on our guard play. If you disagree with that let me know... simply put our guards aren't our weakness, they're our strength

Answer this!

Who in our guard rotation not named IT can consistently score or get a bucket when we desperately need one?

Scratch that!

Who on our TEAM not named IT can consistently  score or get a bucket when we desperately need one?

Winning 50+ games and making the ECF was cute.  But let's stop kidding ourselves we NEED a major influx of special talent not more middling dirt dog, hustling, high motor, "dime a dozen", non dribbling, non shooting, non creating role players.  This entire team is made up of them.

Lol that argument is simplistic, why would I name someone from our rotation other than IT that can score if IT is a part of our rotation? The 2017 team was built around IT penetrating, which is why Crowder worked on hia 3point shot and why Jaylen is now working on spot up 3s in the corner... there is no need for 2018 to be so constructed... especially if we get a Hayward

But I do agree we need more scorers, but we need players that score in different ways. Fultz method of scoring is just like ITs, so one defensive plan takes out two players. With scorers at different positions it becomes more difficult to defend. Porter at the 3 or 4 is a problem, Ayton at the 5 is a problem... the problem with our scoring now is that it is too perimeter based... so if shots not falling we're doomed.

You're making my point.

Why would you name someone other than IT?  YOU CANT!

The 2017 team built around IT was/is flawed!  If you're depending on Crowder and Jaylen turning into the shooters we need, then we really are doomed.  While we're at let's hope Kendrick Brown, Rondo and Smart develop one too.

We need scorers PERIOD!  It doesn't matter where they come from.  Look at GSW, Portland, Washington, Houston.

And u keep talking about next year's draft.  We're not guaranteed to get any of those guys.  Danny might end up trading those picks too!

This is funny, so you say I'm proving your point and then send me to look at Houston (built around Harden penetrating), Washington (built around Wall penetrating) and Blazers (built around Lillard penetrating) to say they are doing the right thing.

The 2017 team was definitely flawed, but it was also incomplete and the flaw was not our backcourt whether starting or bench.

You got me though on Danny probably trading 2018 picks 

[__ramonezy__]

In what world do we have championship guards?? The champs have a better back court than us, along with being superior at almost all positions.

Washington has a better back-court than we do. Tell me you wouldn't trade IT and Avery
straight up for Wall/Beal ? seriously.

I would do that trade in a heartbeat. Don't know what you're getting at... I said we have championship caliber guards, not the best guards. So let me put it another way, we won 50+ games and made it to the ECF largely based on our guard play. If you disagree with that let me know... simply put our guards aren't our weakness, they're our strength

Answer this!

Who in our guard rotation not named IT can consistently score or get a bucket when we desperately need one?

Scratch that!

Who on our TEAM not named IT can consistently  score or get a bucket when we desperately need one?

Winning 50+ games and making the ECF was cute.  But let's stop kidding ourselves we NEED a major influx of special talent not more middling dirt dog, hustling, high motor, "dime a dozen", non dribbling, non shooting, non creating role players.  This entire team is made up of them.

Lol that argument is simplistic, why would I name someone from our rotation other than IT that can score if IT is a part of our rotation? The 2017 team was built around IT penetrating, which is why Crowder worked on hia 3point shot and why Jaylen is now working on spot up 3s in the corner... there is no need for 2018 to be so constructed... especially if we get a Hayward

But I do agree we need more scorers, but we need players that score in different ways. Fultz method of scoring is just like ITs, so one defensive plan takes out two players. With scorers at different positions it becomes more difficult to defend. Porter at the 3 or 4 is a problem, Ayton at the 5 is a problem... the problem with our scoring now is that it is too perimeter based... so if shots not falling we're doomed.

We don't have a 2 guard that can create their own shot and finish consistently like Fultz. We need that.

You do realize that the best 2 guards can't do that right? Klay can't, Beal can't, McCollum can't so why does that now become a requirement for our success. Actually of legitimate 2 guards only DeRozan comes to mind that fit your description

So you don't want a player that comes around once every 10 years?

Definitely... Fultz is not that. Talented, but not generational. Porter is shaping up to be that kind of talent though... but only time will tell

[Dchuck]

In what world do we have championship guards?? The champs have a better back court than us, along with being superior at almost all positions.

Washington has a better back-court than we do. Tell me you wouldn't trade IT and Avery
straight up for Wall/Beal ? seriously.

I would do that trade in a heartbeat. Don't know what you're getting at... I said we have championship caliber guards, not the best guards. So let me put it another way, we won 50+ games and made it to the ECF largely based on our guard play. If you disagree with that let me know... simply put our guards aren't our weakness, they're our strength

Answer this!

Who in our guard rotation not named IT can consistently score or get a bucket when we desperately need one?

Scratch that!

Who on our TEAM not named IT can consistently  score or get a bucket when we desperately need one?

Winning 50+ games and making the ECF was cute.  But let's stop kidding ourselves we NEED a major influx of special talent not more middling dirt dog, hustling, high motor, "dime a dozen", non dribbling, non shooting, non creating role players.  This entire team is made up of them.

Lol that argument is simplistic, why would I name someone from our rotation other than IT that can score if IT is a part of our rotation? The 2017 team was built around IT penetrating, which is why Crowder worked on hia 3point shot and why Jaylen is now working on spot up 3s in the corner... there is no need for 2018 to be so constructed... especially if we get a Hayward

But I do agree we need more scorers, but we need players that score in different ways. Fultz method of scoring is just like ITs, so one defensive plan takes out two players. With scorers at different positions it becomes more difficult to defend. Porter at the 3 or 4 is a problem, Ayton at the 5 is a problem... the problem with our scoring now is that it is too perimeter based... so if shots not falling we're doomed.

You're making my point.

Why would you name someone other than IT?  YOU CANT!

The 2017 team built around IT was/is flawed!  If you're depending on Crowder and Jaylen turning into the shooters we need, then we really are doomed.  While we're at let's hope Kendrick Brown, Rondo and Smart develop one too.

We need scorers PERIOD!  It doesn't matter where they come from.  Look at GSW, Portland, Washington, Houston.

And u keep talking about next year's draft.  We're not guaranteed to get any of those guys.  Danny might end up trading those picks too!

This is funny, so you say I'm proving your point and then send me to look at Houston (built around Harden penetrating), Washington (built around Wall penetrating) and Blazers (built around Lillard penetrating) to say they are doing the right thing.

The 2017 team was definitely flawed, but it was also incomplete and the flaw was not our backcourt whether starting or bench.

You got me though on Danny probably trading 2018 picks 

My point in listing those teams is that they have multiple scorers in the backcourt.  It doesn't matter where scoring comes from as long as we have more than one guy who can consistently do it.  I'm tired of all these high motor guys who can't shoot!  This team has enough of them.

Our flaw was SCORING!  First and foremost! Our goal right now should be, how to add scoring!  Not high motor, defensive guys!

[BlackCeltic]

In what world do we have championship guards?? The champs have a better back court than us, along with being superior at almost all positions.

Washington has a better back-court than we do. Tell me you wouldn't trade IT and Avery
straight up for Wall/Beal ? seriously.

I would do that trade in a heartbeat. Don't know what you're getting at... I said we have championship caliber guards, not the best guards. So let me put it another way, we won 50+ games and made it to the ECF largely based on our guard play. If you disagree with that let me know... simply put our guards aren't our weakness, they're our strength

Answer this!

Who in our guard rotation not named IT can consistently score or get a bucket when we desperately need one?

Scratch that!

Who on our TEAM not named IT can consistently  score or get a bucket when we desperately need one?

Winning 50+ games and making the ECF was cute.  But let's stop kidding ourselves we NEED a major influx of special talent not more middling dirt dog, hustling, high motor, "dime a dozen", non dribbling, non shooting, non creating role players.  This entire team is made up of them.

Lol that argument is simplistic, why would I name someone from our rotation other than IT that can score if IT is a part of our rotation? The 2017 team was built around IT penetrating, which is why Crowder worked on hia 3point shot and why Jaylen is now working on spot up 3s in the corner... there is no need for 2018 to be so constructed... especially if we get a Hayward

But I do agree we need more scorers, but we need players that score in different ways. Fultz method of scoring is just like ITs, so one defensive plan takes out two players. With scorers at different positions it becomes more difficult to defend. Porter at the 3 or 4 is a problem, Ayton at the 5 is a problem... the problem with our scoring now is that it is too perimeter based... so if shots not falling we're doomed.

We don't have a 2 guard that can create their own shot and finish consistently like Fultz. We need that.

You do realize that the best 2 guards can't do that right? Klay can't, Beal can't, McCollum can't so why does that now become a requirement for our success. Actually of legitimate 2 guards only DeRozan comes to mind that fit your description

So you don't want a player that comes around once every 10 years?

Definitely... Fultz is not that. Talented, but not generational. Porter is shaping up to be that kind of talent though... but only time will tell

Who in this draft is better? Josh Jackson is 2nd on my board and he is just an uber athletic Trevor Ariza to me.

[kozlodoev]

In what world do we have championship guards?? The champs have a better back court than us, along with being superior at almost all positions.

Washington has a better back-court than we do. Tell me you wouldn't trade IT and Avery
straight up for Wall/Beal ? seriously.

I would do that trade in a heartbeat. Don't know what you're getting at... I said we have championship caliber guards, not the best guards. So let me put it another way, we won 50+ games and made it to the ECF largely based on our guard play. If you disagree with that let me know... simply put our guards aren't our weakness, they're our strength

Answer this!

Who in our guard rotation not named IT can consistently score or get a bucket when we desperately need one?

Scratch that!

Who on our TEAM not named IT can consistently  score or get a bucket when we desperately need one?

Winning 50+ games and making the ECF was cute.  But let's stop kidding ourselves we NEED a major influx of special talent not more middling dirt dog, hustling, high motor, "dime a dozen", non dribbling, non shooting, non creating role players.  This entire team is made up of them.

Lol that argument is simplistic, why would I name someone from our rotation other than IT that can score if IT is a part of our rotation? The 2017 team was built around IT penetrating, which is why Crowder worked on hia 3point shot and why Jaylen is now working on spot up 3s in the corner... there is no need for 2018 to be so constructed... especially if we get a Hayward

But I do agree we need more scorers, but we need players that score in different ways. Fultz method of scoring is just like ITs, so one defensive plan takes out two players. With scorers at different positions it becomes more difficult to defend. Porter at the 3 or 4 is a problem, Ayton at the 5 is a problem... the problem with our scoring now is that it is too perimeter based... so if shots not falling we're doomed.

We don't have a 2 guard that can create their own shot and finish consistently like Fultz. We need that.

You do realize that the best 2 guards can't do that right? Klay can't, Beal can't, McCollum can't so why does that now become a requirement for our success. Actually of legitimate 2 guards only DeRozan comes to mind that fit your description

So you don't want a player that comes around once every 10 years?

Definitely... Fultz is not that. Talented, but not generational. Porter is shaping up to be that kind of talent though... but only time will tell

Who in this draft is better? Josh Jackson is 2nd on my board and he is just an uber athletic Trevor Ariza to me.

I don't think you'll convince anyone with a Trevor Ariza comp...

[BlackCeltic]

In what world do we have championship guards?? The champs have a better back court than us, along with being superior at almost all positions.

Washington has a better back-court than we do. Tell me you wouldn't trade IT and Avery
straight up for Wall/Beal ? seriously.

I would do that trade in a heartbeat. Don't know what you're getting at... I said we have championship caliber guards, not the best guards. So let me put it another way, we won 50+ games and made it to the ECF largely based on our guard play. If you disagree with that let me know... simply put our guards aren't our weakness, they're our strength

Answer this!

Who in our guard rotation not named IT can consistently score or get a bucket when we desperately need one?

Scratch that!

Who on our TEAM not named IT can consistently  score or get a bucket when we desperately need one?

Winning 50+ games and making the ECF was cute.  But let's stop kidding ourselves we NEED a major influx of special talent not more middling dirt dog, hustling, high motor, "dime a dozen", non dribbling, non shooting, non creating role players.  This entire team is made up of them.

Lol that argument is simplistic, why would I name someone from our rotation other than IT that can score if IT is a part of our rotation? The 2017 team was built around IT penetrating, which is why Crowder worked on hia 3point shot and why Jaylen is now working on spot up 3s in the corner... there is no need for 2018 to be so constructed... especially if we get a Hayward

But I do agree we need more scorers, but we need players that score in different ways. Fultz method of scoring is just like ITs, so one defensive plan takes out two players. With scorers at different positions it becomes more difficult to defend. Porter at the 3 or 4 is a problem, Ayton at the 5 is a problem... the problem with our scoring now is that it is too perimeter based... so if shots not falling we're doomed.

We don't have a 2 guard that can create their own shot and finish consistently like Fultz. We need that.

You do realize that the best 2 guards can't do that right? Klay can't, Beal can't, McCollum can't so why does that now become a requirement for our success. Actually of legitimate 2 guards only DeRozan comes to mind that fit your description

So you don't want a player that comes around once every 10 years?

Definitely... Fultz is not that. Talented, but not generational. Porter is shaping up to be that kind of talent though... but only time will tell

Who in this draft is better? Josh Jackson is 2nd on my board and he is just an uber athletic Trevor Ariza to me.

I don't think you'll convince anyone with a Trevor Ariza comp...

They are both skinny, 6'8 , 3 & D players.

[__ramonezy__]

In what world do we have championship guards?? The champs have a better back court than us, along with being superior at almost all positions.

Washington has a better back-court than we do. Tell me you wouldn't trade IT and Avery
straight up for Wall/Beal ? seriously.

I would do that trade in a heartbeat. Don't know what you're getting at... I said we have championship caliber guards, not the best guards. So let me put it another way, we won 50+ games and made it to the ECF largely based on our guard play. If you disagree with that let me know... simply put our guards aren't our weakness, they're our strength

Answer this!

Who in our guard rotation not named IT can consistently score or get a bucket when we desperately need one?

Scratch that!

Who on our TEAM not named IT can consistently  score or get a bucket when we desperately need one?

Winning 50+ games and making the ECF was cute.  But let's stop kidding ourselves we NEED a major influx of special talent not more middling dirt dog, hustling, high motor, "dime a dozen", non dribbling, non shooting, non creating role players.  This entire team is made up of them.

Lol that argument is simplistic, why would I name someone from our rotation other than IT that can score if IT is a part of our rotation? The 2017 team was built around IT penetrating, which is why Crowder worked on hia 3point shot and why Jaylen is now working on spot up 3s in the corner... there is no need for 2018 to be so constructed... especially if we get a Hayward

But I do agree we need more scorers, but we need players that score in different ways. Fultz method of scoring is just like ITs, so one defensive plan takes out two players. With scorers at different positions it becomes more difficult to defend. Porter at the 3 or 4 is a problem, Ayton at the 5 is a problem... the problem with our scoring now is that it is too perimeter based... so if shots not falling we're doomed.

We don't have a 2 guard that can create their own shot and finish consistently like Fultz. We need that.

You do realize that the best 2 guards can't do that right? Klay can't, Beal can't, McCollum can't so why does that now become a requirement for our success. Actually of legitimate 2 guards only DeRozan comes to mind that fit your description

So you don't want a player that comes around once every 10 years?

Definitely... Fultz is not that. Talented, but not generational. Porter is shaping up to be that kind of talent though... but only time will tell

Who in this draft is better? Josh Jackson is 2nd on my board and he is just an uber athletic Trevor Ariza to me.

Fultz is hands down the best player in this draft, but I think the second tier of talent is much closer than the media projects. So for team building purposes I'd rather someone from the close 2nd tier that fills a need than a Fultz at a position we're already stacked at. I agree with you on Jackson, my pick at #3 would be Tatum for his mature offensive game