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Re: NBA Finals 2016-2017 thread
« Reply #585 on: June 10, 2017, 12:38:39 AM »

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Well that was certainly entertaining.

The Next time I want to watch 63 free throws, I'll walk down to the park and take them...
I do think it was more incompetence that rigging.

Exactly why do you think that?
because they could have easily tossed Pachulia and Draymond and chose to toss neither.

The 2nd on Green was bogus.  Korver clearly pulled Zaza to the ground by the neck - if one was tossed, the other should've been, too.

I had a horrible stream and missed a lot, but this game was over in the 1st qtr due to the foul discrepancy.  Why on Earth would GS come out hacking away, up 3-0 and on the road, in the first qtr in an elimination game? It makes no sense whatsoever. If anything, they'd have been lackadaisical.  That narrative makes absolutely no sense, and was predictable by [dang] near any one that follows the NBA.

Yeah, this one will be attended by a bad smell for a long-time.

Like you say, between the need to continue to artificially burnish the LeBron myth, by any means necessary, and cop at least one more dirty payday, we should've expected the sorry, corrupt and ultimately surreal excuse for a game we received.

I wish I'd had a poor stream. That way my eyes wouldn't be bleeding right now from having watched most of it.

Hopefully the refs clean up their act when the series returns to Oakland.

Re: NBA Finals 2016-2017 thread
« Reply #586 on: June 10, 2017, 12:49:18 AM »

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This is one of the worst officiated games I've ever seen, right up there with Lakers/Kings and Lakers/Celtics 2010.

Yes, just awful. My eyes are hurting so bad they'll probably start bleeding any moment now.

I suppose we should have expected such a sorry display. The league wasn't going to allow LeBron to be swept or be content with a mere four games of skrilla.

It'll be interesting to see if the attention ****s in stripes continue to try to extend the series and the payday in the next game. The fact that it's back in Oakland hopefully means they'll, for the most part, let the players play and determine the outcome for themselves, especially after tonight's blatant miscarriage of justice.

I would give the edge to the 2010 Celts/Lakers as the worst of all time, and certainly the most painful for Celtics fans. It still bothers me.

The entire crew of refs should've seen jail time for that one.

Ugh. Game 7 was rigged. Celtics should have won that without Kendrick Perkins. That 4th quarter free-throw disparity man....


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Re: NBA Finals 2016-2017 thread
« Reply #587 on: June 10, 2017, 01:30:49 AM »

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This is one of the worst officiated games I've ever seen, right up there with Lakers/Kings and Lakers/Celtics 2010.

Yes, just awful. My eyes are hurting so bad they'll probably start bleeding any moment now.

I suppose we should have expected such a sorry display. The league wasn't going to allow LeBron to be swept or be content with a mere four games of skrilla.

It'll be interesting to see if the attention ****s in stripes continue to try to extend the series and the payday in the next game. The fact that it's back in Oakland hopefully means they'll, for the most part, let the players play and determine the outcome for themselves, especially after tonight's blatant miscarriage of justice.

I would give the edge to the 2010 Celts/Lakers as the worst of all time, and certainly the most painful for Celtics fans. It still bothers me.

The entire crew of refs should've seen jail time for that one.

Ugh. Game 7 was rigged. Celtics should have won that without Kendrick Perkins. That 4th quarter free-throw disparity man....

I certainly can't disagree with you. Superficially incompetent reffing is the de facto rigging modus of choice. Just criminal.

I loved that Cs squad even more than the '08 title iteration. They were a truly big-hearted bunch who deserved so much better.

Re: NBA Finals 2016-2017 thread
« Reply #588 on: June 10, 2017, 02:17:04 AM »

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This is one of the worst officiated games I've ever seen, right up there with Lakers/Kings and Lakers/Celtics 2010.

Yes, just awful. My eyes are hurting so bad they'll probably start bleeding any moment now.

I suppose we should have expected such a sorry display. The league wasn't going to allow LeBron to be swept or be content with a mere four games of skrilla.

It'll be interesting to see if the attention ****s in stripes continue to try to extend the series and the payday in the next game. The fact that it's back in Oakland hopefully means they'll, for the most part, let the players play and determine the outcome for themselves, especially after tonight's blatant miscarriage of justice.

I would give the edge to the 2010 Celts/Lakers as the worst of all time, and certainly the most painful for Celtics fans. It still bothers me.

The entire crew of refs should've seen jail time for that one.

Ugh. Game 7 was rigged. Celtics should have won that without Kendrick Perkins. That 4th quarter free-throw disparity man....

Looking back, that contest was almost a carbon copy of game 7 of the 1998 Eastern Conference Finals, imo, where anytime someone in red and white got in the lane it was an automatic foul ::).

That said, while the officiating was atrocious, so was our halfcourt offense, as it always was under Doc, who still doesn't get it, lol ;D, not to mention Ray failing to haul in a single rebound, always leaking out ::), but really, we lost that series in game 3, imo, especially after Artest took Ray out really for the rest of the series, and I've always wondered if Boston would have won at least that game if they moved Pierce to shooting guard and put in Michael Finley at small forward, that way putting a much better defender in Pierce on Kobe, who wouldn't have been able to post up owing to Pierce's height and weight advantage, and Finley wouldn't have hurt us, defensively, because they rarely went to Artest, who was never much of an offensive player, anyway.

Additionally, our offense should have revolved around KG or Sheed, imo, really just keying in on whoever Odom was attempting to defend, lol ;D. That was the mismatch of the series, to me, and they very rarely exploited it, but when they did it worked every time :-\.

Of course, if Ray had been able to post up at all, we could have just thrown it to him inside against Fisher, but nooooooo ::). That was always something that bothered me about Ray, and Pierce, as well - neither of them ever learned how to post up, and let the latter is somehow the best scorer in the history of the franchise? ::) Give me a break.

I was really hoping that Ainge would have sold high on Perk and Davis during the offseason in 2009, when their respective values were never higher, and replace the former with Ben Wallace.  It would have been a lot of fun watching him and Garnett together, imo, but signing Jerry Stackhouse and Joe Smith also would have been great for the bench, in my eyes.  Pick up Finley during the year, draft Wesley Matthews, sign Jannero Pargo, etc.  That would have been a great team to watch, and I'd like to think that they would have been able to win it all, even with Doc's "halfcourt offense," but we'll never know, now, obviously.  Oh well, I guess that there's always 2K, which I haven't played in years, lol ;D

Re: NBA Finals 2016-2017 thread
« Reply #589 on: June 10, 2017, 07:55:58 AM »

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I am certainly NOT a Cavs fans and am rooting for the eventual Warriors victory but....

1. I cannot understand how Draymond Green is not ejected from EVERY game he plays. Hev flails his arms and throws a fit on every foul. Any other player gets teched on every similar action. Draymond nearly decapitates Shumpert and has the audacity to throw a fit over it?

2. How does zaZa not even get called for a foul when he punches Shumpert in the nuts?

3. Any player that simulates taking a dump on the other teams court (pretty boy Steph) deserves to be physically punished by the other team.

That being said, man is Durant a hired killer. That man is GOOD! Wow - even in a loss he was amazing.

Re: NBA Finals 2016-2017 thread
« Reply #590 on: June 10, 2017, 03:03:20 PM »

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This series could have been tied 2-2 heading back to the Oracle had the Cavs added extra firepower in Game 3.


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Re: NBA Finals 2016-2017 thread
« Reply #591 on: June 10, 2017, 03:05:11 PM »

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This is one of the worst officiated games I've ever seen, right up there with Lakers/Kings and Lakers/Celtics 2010.

Yes, just awful. My eyes are hurting so bad they'll probably start bleeding any moment now.

I suppose we should have expected such a sorry display. The league wasn't going to allow LeBron to be swept or be content with a mere four games of skrilla.

It'll be interesting to see if the attention ****s in stripes continue to try to extend the series and the payday in the next game. The fact that it's back in Oakland hopefully means they'll, for the most part, let the players play and determine the outcome for themselves, especially after tonight's blatant miscarriage of justice.

I would give the edge to the 2010 Celts/Lakers as the worst of all time, and certainly the most painful for Celtics fans. It still bothers me.

The entire crew of refs should've seen jail time for that one.

Ugh. Game 7 was rigged. Celtics should have won that without Kendrick Perkins. That 4th quarter free-throw disparity man....

I certainly can't disagree with you. Superficially incompetent reffing is the de facto rigging modus of choice. Just criminal.

I loved that Cs squad even more than the '08 title iteration. They were a truly big-hearted bunch who deserved so much better.

Celtics were pure underdogs that year. #4 seed. Had to play against Dwyane Wade and his Heat, and then a relatively strong LeBron James/Shaquille O'Neal Cavaliers, and then the Dwight Howard Magic.

Then facing Kobe and his Lakers without home-court advantage. Stretched the series to 7 games and just 4 points man. Although if the C's had won Game 3, the series would have been over in 5.


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Re: NBA Finals 2016-2017 thread
« Reply #592 on: June 10, 2017, 03:20:49 PM »

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Sounds like Pachulia might get suspended for game 5. Interestingly enough,Korver's headlock takedown of Zaza, which caused the whole mess, is ignored thus far.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2714863-zaza-pachulia-throws-punches-at-iman-shumperts-groin-in-game-4-scuffle?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=editorial


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« Reply #593 on: June 10, 2017, 06:37:50 PM »

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Sounds like Pachulia might get suspended for game 5. Interestingly enough,Korver's headlock takedown of Zaza, which caused the whole mess, is ignored thus far.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2714863-zaza-pachulia-throws-punches-at-iman-shumperts-groin-in-game-4-scuffle?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=editorial

What headlock are you talking about? You are fabricating that. Please tell me at what part of the video you see a headlock?


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« Reply #594 on: June 10, 2017, 06:58:44 PM »

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Sounds like Pachulia might get suspended for game 5. Interestingly enough,Korver's headlock takedown of Zaza, which caused the whole mess, is ignored thus far.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2714863-zaza-pachulia-throws-punches-at-iman-shumperts-groin-in-game-4-scuffle?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=editorial

What headlock are you talking about? You are fabricating that. Please tell me at what part of the video you see a headlock?


Maybe you should watch that video again. It's very clear, I don't know what else to tell you. Korver wrapped his arm around Pachulia's head on the way down, and pulled him down with him.

Not to mention that Shumpert kept standing over Pachulia and stepping on him long after the refs blew the whistle.

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« Reply #595 on: June 10, 2017, 07:08:22 PM »

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There is no headlock. Period. You are defending Zaza? He is one of the dirtiest players in recent NBA history. I haven't seen anywhere that he might be suspended so I don't know where that came from either.



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« Reply #596 on: June 10, 2017, 07:09:51 PM »

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There is no headlock. Period.


There is , but you can call it whatever you want. I also suppose Shumpert didn't continue to stand over him after the whistle blew, and step on him?

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« Reply #597 on: June 10, 2017, 07:11:31 PM »

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There is no headlock. Period. You are defending Zaza? He is one of the dirtiest players in recent NBA history. I haven't seen anywhere that he might be suspended so I don't know where that came from either.

He's dirty, I fully agree. But I call it as I see it, and on that play the officials missed several calls and let it get out of hand.

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« Reply #598 on: June 10, 2017, 07:14:37 PM »

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There is no headlock. Period.


There is , but you can call it whatever you want. I also suppose Shumpert didn't continue to stand over him after the whistle blew, and step on him?


Ya poor Zaza. I feel so bad for him. And btw, Korver really? He couldn't put a headlock on a teenage girl much less Zaza and the size of that head. Also, so what if Shumpert was standing over him - does that mean Zaza is allowed to punch him in the nuts? And this happened after the other thug Draymond nearly decapitated Shumpert earlier so sorry - no anything bad that Zaza or Draymond earn I am happy about it.

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« Reply #599 on: June 10, 2017, 07:15:02 PM »

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Sounds like Pachulia might get suspended for game 5. Interestingly enough,Korver's headlock takedown of Zaza, which caused the whole mess, is ignored thus far.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2714863-zaza-pachulia-throws-punches-at-iman-shumperts-groin-in-game-4-scuffle?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=editorial

What headlock are you talking about? You are fabricating that. Please tell me at what part of the video you see a headlock?