NBA Finals 2016-2017 thread

[liam]

http://twitter.com/WindhorstESPN/status/873376462107181056

This is the kind of crap that kills me. The officiating is way too subjective.

I dont really have a problem with that.

Not all technical fouls are created equal nor do I think they should be.

I disagree. I think technical fouls should be pretty objective and standard across the board.

I think that would be bad for the game of basketball.

I think objective and standard officiating would be good for the NBA.

nah cmon, weve all played sports and understand a game is gonna be called differently in different situations.

Officials are there to make sure the game doesnt get out of hand, that no team or player has an unfair competitive advantage, and to keep players safe.

This is most effectively done through fluid officiating.

Also it's the easy way to control the outcome of games. MLB has a very consistent strike zone and safe out rules. MBL is easy to officiate but NFL has got to be the hardest and they only have a half dozen questionable calls a game compared to the NBA with dozens per half in most games. Fluid officiating is just controlling out comes...

[Ilikesports17]

http://twitter.com/WindhorstESPN/status/873376462107181056

This is the kind of crap that kills me. The officiating is way too subjective.

I dont really have a problem with that.

Not all technical fouls are created equal nor do I think they should be.

I disagree. I think technical fouls should be pretty objective and standard across the board.

I think that would be bad for the game of basketball.

I think objective and standard officiating would be good for the NBA.

Same here. Stars don't need any more help if they're already that much better than the other players, and this goes doubly for technical fouls.

That's the right way to do things but who wants that anymore

Im more saying that Im OK with officials giving out a ticky tack first technical but not wanting a guy to get tossed for basically giving the refs Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline.ing attitude.

Throwing a tech at a volatile guy like Dray when he starts to get p---ed can go a long way in keeping him in check. Tossing him for something like that is bad. I mean surely you can agree that Dray shouldnt have been tossed for that?

The star vs. nonstar thing, I feel less strongly about, but I still think you ultimately want to put the best product on the court while also maintaining a competitive balance etc.

[jpotter33]

NBA refs don't want to affect the game but they are by not calling the same things for certain players.

Yep.

[Roy H.]

This is one of the worst officiated games I've ever seen, right up there with Lakers/Kings and Lakers/Celtics 2010.

[jpotter33]

This has been such a poorly officiated game. Inconsistent calls both ways. Refs are just way, way too involved, and that's where they get in trouble due to being inconsistent. Be minimally involved and you don't have near the opportunity for inconsistency.

[hpantazo]

JR Smith should be checked for a concussion after that hit from Lebron.

[Ilikesports17]

http://twitter.com/WindhorstESPN/status/873376462107181056

This is the kind of crap that kills me. The officiating is way too subjective.

I dont really have a problem with that.

Not all technical fouls are created equal nor do I think they should be.

I disagree. I think technical fouls should be pretty objective and standard across the board.

I think that would be bad for the game of basketball.

I think objective and standard officiating would be good for the NBA.

nah cmon, weve all played sports and understand a game is gonna be called differently in different situations.

Officials are there to make sure the game doesnt get out of hand, that no team or player has an unfair competitive advantage, and to keep players safe.

This is most effectively done through fluid officiating.

Also it's the easy way to control the outcome of games. MLB has a very consistent strike zone and safe out rules. MBL is easy to officiate but NFL has got to be the hardest and they only have a half dozen questionable calls a game compared to the NBA with dozens per half in most games. Fluid officiating is just controlling out comes...

Listen, I dont mean that I think superstars should be able to do whatever the Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline. they want.

The NBA has serious officiating problems and perhaps, telling officials to call everything exactly to the book would result in better than what we have now, but in a perfect world things would be called while paying some mind to the situation.

In the NFL holding could be called on every play. Then there was the superbowl a few years back where there was textbook defensive holding on the final play and people pretty much agreed "you arent getting that call, with 2 seconds left in the super bowl"

[max215]

This is one of the worst officiated games I've ever seen, right up there with Lakers/Kings and Lakers/Celtics 2010.

I've NEVER seen a crew lose control of the game the way they did tonight. They're pretty lucky that an all-out brawl didn't break out.

[liam]

I think tonights game was great for a casual fan that doesn't know that much about basketball, The audience for the finals. But The Nba was only interested in story line like the most points scored in a quarter and junk like that. That's all in the way the game is called. The Knicks and Pistons from the 90s couldn't't even play now. Both teams would foul out in the 1st half. This is the product the NBA wants to put on the court. Game 3 was a great game. Game 4 was a display of NBA controlling a game to get another game on Monday.

[jpotter33]

http://twitter.com/WindhorstESPN/status/873376462107181056

This is the kind of crap that kills me. The officiating is way too subjective.

I dont really have a problem with that.

Not all technical fouls are created equal nor do I think they should be.

I disagree. I think technical fouls should be pretty objective and standard across the board.

I think that would be bad for the game of basketball.

I think objective and standard officiating would be good for the NBA.

nah cmon, weve all played sports and understand a game is gonna be called differently in different situations.

Officials are there to make sure the game doesnt get out of hand, that no team or player has an unfair competitive advantage, and to keep players safe.

This is most effectively done through fluid officiating.

Also it's the easy way to control the outcome of games. MLB has a very consistent strike zone and safe out rules. MBL is easy to officiate but NFL has got to be the hardest and they only have a half dozen questionable calls a game compared to the NBA with dozens per half in most games. Fluid officiating is just controlling out comes...

Listen, I dont mean that I think superstars should be able to do whatever the **** they want.

The NBA has serious officiating problems and perhaps, telling officials to call everything exactly to the book would result in better than what we have now, but in a perfect world things would be called while paying some mind to the situation.

In the NFL holding could be called on every play. Then there was the superbowl a few years back where there was textbook defensive holding on the final play and people pretty much agreed "you arent getting that call, with 2 seconds left in the super bowl"

The officials just need to be much less involved in the game. Let these grown adult men play; they can handle it.

I like my officiating like I like my government: with minimal involvement. 

[liam]

This has been such a poorly officiated game. Inconsistent calls both ways. Refs are just way, way too involved, and that's where they get in trouble due to being inconsistent. Be minimally involved and you don't have near the opportunity for inconsistency.

The best games are the ones when you're never even thinking about the refs...

[Ilikesports17]

http://twitter.com/WindhorstESPN/status/873376462107181056

This is the kind of crap that kills me. The officiating is way too subjective.

I dont really have a problem with that.

Not all technical fouls are created equal nor do I think they should be.

I disagree. I think technical fouls should be pretty objective and standard across the board.

I think that would be bad for the game of basketball.

I think objective and standard officiating would be good for the NBA.

nah cmon, weve all played sports and understand a game is gonna be called differently in different situations.

Officials are there to make sure the game doesnt get out of hand, that no team or player has an unfair competitive advantage, and to keep players safe.

This is most effectively done through fluid officiating.

Also it's the easy way to control the outcome of games. MLB has a very consistent strike zone and safe out rules. MBL is easy to officiate but NFL has got to be the hardest and they only have a half dozen questionable calls a game compared to the NBA with dozens per half in most games. Fluid officiating is just controlling out comes...

Listen, I dont mean that I think superstars should be able to do whatever the **** they want.

The NBA has serious officiating problems and perhaps, telling officials to call everything exactly to the book would result in better than what we have now, but in a perfect world things would be called while paying some mind to the situation.

In the NFL holding could be called on every play. Then there was the superbowl a few years back where there was textbook defensive holding on the final play and people pretty much agreed "you arent getting that call, with 2 seconds left in the super bowl"

The officials just need to be much less involved in the game. Let these grown adult men play; they can handle it.

I like my officiating like I like my government: with minimal involvement. 

100 percent agree here. They are way to involved. Hardly ever see a game get good rythym anymore.

[max215]

Well that was certainly entertaining.

[tarheelsxxiii]

This has been such a poorly officiated game. Inconsistent calls both ways. Refs are just way, way too involved, and that's where they get in trouble due to being inconsistent. Be minimally involved and you don't have near the opportunity for inconsistency.

The best games are the ones when you're never even thinking about the refs...

Yep, for the billions of dollars being made, the NBA could probably put out a stronger core of refs than the current 5'3" puppets that have never played a sport in their lives.  But that would overly complicate their agenda, of course.

[liam]

Well that was certainly entertaining.

The Next time I want to watch 63 free throws, I'll walk down to the park and take them...