Fultz comparisons

[droopdog7]

If he gets us a championship he's not a bust.  If he plays soft he is though because we aren't getting a championship if he plays tentative. He's going to need to be that guy who can close out games driving hte lane and hitting shots.

Mccollum isn't a bad comparison that way.  Neither is turner.  Particularly Mccollum we could do with his first few years.

I thnk we want something other than that though. He is going to have to be a closer for us.

Wow, what exactly makes you use words like soft?  When has anyone ever used that word to describe him?

Second, you want him to be closer.  That starts with ability first and foremost and Fultz has that in spades.  Indeed, other than Tatum no other prospect even projects to be a guy to take over games scoring the ball.  That is what makes him special.

[CF0022]

Well Ray Allen is 6'6". Jordan etc. That is considered ideal.  Klay Thompson in todays nba.  He is undersized in that regard.  He is about the average guard size. I would have to check but he's about the same size as dwade i think which is average. Other than that he really isn't limited as far as his game.

I question mentally and physically how he can play at the highest level. But that is learned and comes from within as well. 

He's also taller than some guards as well.  But when you are going up against the best of the best which is what we want he is average in that regard and will be undersized at times.

Why its important that mentally and physically he understands that.

Other than that he is totally fine. I can see how I would utilize him on this team and what i want around him.  If it were to work.  I'm smart that way but I've tried to explain that how he would be successful for us.

The point here is to win a championship. Fultz is really fine.

[CF0022]

People get too wrapped up in stats and measurables when its more than that is all.  It's good information and conversation for sure because it makes me more aware.

[droopdog7]

People sleep on fultz ability to assist and rebound. The guy can pass and see plays before they happen. He can pass anywhere. He's not on lonzo ball level of passing but he's close

For all of Ball's playmaking ability, Fultz actually had a higher assist percentage than Ball.
 That's pretty incredible given the team around Fultz.

[CF0022]

If he gets us a championship he's not a bust.  If he plays soft he is though because we aren't getting a championship if he plays tentative. He's going to need to be that guy who can close out games driving hte lane and hitting shots.

Mccollum isn't a bad comparison that way.  Neither is turner.  Particularly Mccollum we could do with his first few years.

I thnk we want something other than that though. He is going to have to be a closer for us.

Wow, what exactly makes you use words like soft?  When has anyone ever used that word to describe him?

Second, you want him to be closer.  That starts with ability first and foremost and Fultz has that in spades.  Indeed, other than Tatum no other prospect even projects to be a guy to take over games scoring the ball.  That is what makes him special.

I never said he was soft. What I'm sayng isn't what you think I am.  I said if he plays soft it's nto what we want. What is there to argue there?  you are taking what i said personally when that's not what I said. Read what I said again.

Do you want him to play soft? I'm saying if he does that he's not what we want. Which is true.

[droopdog7]

Well Ray Allen is 6'6". Jordan etc. That is considered ideal.  Klay Thompson in todays nba.  He is undersized in that regard.  He is about the average guard size. I would have to check but he's about the same size as dwade i think which is average. Other than that he really isn't limited as far as his game.

I question mentally and physically how he can play at the highest level. But that is learned and comes from within as well. 

He's also taller than some guards as well.  But when you are going up against the best of the best which is what we want he is average in that regard and will be undersized at times.

Why its important that mentally and physically he understands that.

Other than that he is totally fine. I can see how I would utilize him on this team and what i want around him.  If it were to work.  I'm smart that way but I've tried to explain that how he would be successful for us.

The point here is to win a championship. Fultz is really fine.

Fultz is a Point Guard!  Why are you comparing him to shooting guards?  The fact that he could actually guard SG's adequately is actually a huge plus.

[CF0022]

He's going to play all over the place for us with IT here. Yes ultimately someday he will take over hopefully.

This is what I'm talking about where people don't look at things from the celtics perspective. Yes he is a pg. We have IT.

He's a guard. That is totally limiting him.

MArcus Smart is also a pg.  He's just a basketball player though. So is Fultz.

[droopdog7]

If he gets us a championship he's not a bust.  If he plays soft he is though because we aren't getting a championship if he plays tentative. He's going to need to be that guy who can close out games driving hte lane and hitting shots.

Mccollum isn't a bad comparison that way.  Neither is turner.  Particularly Mccollum we could do with his first few years.

I thnk we want something other than that though. He is going to have to be a closer for us.

Wow, what exactly makes you use words like soft?  When has anyone ever used that word to describe him?

Second, you want him to be closer.  That starts with ability first and foremost and Fultz has that in spades.  Indeed, other than Tatum no other prospect even projects to be a guy to take over games scoring the ball.  That is what makes him special.

I never said he was soft. What I'm sayng isn't what you think I am.  I said if he plays soft it's nto what we want. What is there to argue there?  you are taking what i said personally when that's not what I said. Read what I said again.

Do you want him to play soft? I'm saying if he does that he's not what we want. Which is true.

You're missing my point.  Why are you evening mentioning "soft"?  I know you didn't call him that but you're most certainly insinuating it.

[CF0022]

No I get what all of you are saying. It's good information.  It makes me think how i envision him here is all.

If we draft Fultz I explained why we dont want him to play soft. He is going to have to be a closer for us against top competition.  He's also going to have to play off the ball.

[droopdog7]

He's going to play all over the place for us with IT here. Yes ultimately someday he will take over hopefully.

This is what I'm talking about where people don't look at things from the celtics perspective. Yes he is a pg. We have IT.

He's a guard. That is totally limiting him.

MArcus Smart is also a pg.  He's just a basketball player though. So is Fultz.

IT is more SG than PG.  When's he's on the floor with Smart (who isn't as much of a PG as Fultz), who is the PG?  I don't track it but I'm thinking that Smart plays that role now even with IT on the floor.  I don't see any reason Fultz can't do the same.

[CF0022]

Danny Ainge wants scorers and players that can score at teh end of games against top competition.  Fultz needs to be that for us.  I'm saying the same things.

It's a team game ultimately too. It's not all on fultz. But his mentality has to be that. So does the team to open up shots for him to take.

Which is true.

[CF0022]

I don't mean this in an insulting way either. I'm over here playing chess in ways where some of you are playing checkers.  Not exactly that but what i'm saying isn't how it seems.  I just don't know how to explain that.  What I'm sayng makes perfect sense though.

Fultz is fine.  Not saying he is the only solution but if the celtics are going to be successful with him that's what we want.

[tarheelsxxiii]

I don't mean this in an insulting way either. I'm over here playing chess in ways where some of you are playing checkers.  Not exactly that but what i'm saying isn't how it seems.  I just don't know how to explain that.  What I'm sayng makes perfect sense though.

walker, is that you?

[footey]

Well Ray Allen is 6'6". Jordan etc. That is considered ideal.  Klay Thompson in todays nba.  He is undersized in that regard.  He is about the average guard size. I would have to check but he's about the same size as dwade i think which is average. Other than that he really isn't limited as far as his game.

I question mentally and physically how he can play at the highest level. But that is learned and comes from within as well. 

He's also taller than some guards as well.  But when you are going up against the best of the best which is what we want he is average in that regard and will be undersized at times.

Why its important that mentally and physically he understands that.

Other than that he is totally fine. I can see how I would utilize him on this team and what i want around him.  If it were to work.  I'm smart that way but I've tried to explain that how he would be successful for us.

The point here is to win a championship. Fultz is really fine.

Ray Allen 6'5".

[CF0022]

Well Ray Allen doesn't concern me so he might as well be 6'11".  By todays standards in the nba all I said was Fultz was a little undersized.  He is. He's a guard.