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Re: Fultz comparisons
« Reply #105 on: May 18, 2017, 06:52:43 PM »

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If he gets us a championship he's not a bust.  If he plays soft he is though because we aren't getting a championship if he plays tentative. He's going to need to be that guy who can close out games driving hte lane and hitting shots.

Mccollum isn't a bad comparison that way.  Neither is turner.  Particularly Mccollum we could do with his first few years.

I thnk we want something other than that though. He is going to have to be a closer for us.

Re: Fultz comparisons
« Reply #106 on: May 18, 2017, 06:54:12 PM »

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I more see him playing with pace and flow even over dwade. I think he's like IT but bigger and more physical and plays with a chip hopefully.


In order to be successful in todays game you have to play with pace but you also have to be physical.  It's a combination especially at the highest level.

The regular season is not nearly as physical as the playoffs.

A 6'5" inch IT is pretty awesome!

Re: Fultz comparisons
« Reply #107 on: May 18, 2017, 06:55:11 PM »

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IT is awesome. Definately plays with the right mndset and chip too.  I expect that from Fultz except in a different role his first few years.  But bigger and more physical. He can really  compliment IT that way.

Re: Fultz comparisons
« Reply #108 on: May 18, 2017, 06:56:17 PM »

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I more see him playing with pace and flow even over dwade. I think he's like IT but bigger and more physical and plays with a chip hopefully.


In order to be successful in todays game you have to play with pace but you also have to be physical.  It's a combination especially at the highest level.

The regular season is not nearly as physical as the playoffs.

A 6'5" inch IT is pretty awesome!
Fultz doesnt have half IT's burst. Hes not as good finishing around the rim, and hes not half the free throw shooter Thomas is.

He is half a foot taller than Thomas so he can be a much better defender, but hes unlikely to ever be as good as Thomas as a scorer.

Re: Fultz comparisons
« Reply #109 on: May 18, 2017, 06:59:21 PM »

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Fultz can definately drive the lane. He did it in college. Whether he can do that in the eastern conference finals is something else. It's a team thing though like im saying. You get outphysicalled as a team it doesnt matter what one guy does.  I expect Fultz to play physical period. If he doesn't it's not what I want. I expect the entire team too.

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Re: Fultz comparisons
« Reply #110 on: May 18, 2017, 06:59:50 PM »

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Ceiling: better version of John wall
Floor: cj mccollum

Fultz has a better shooting than wall and kyrie. Fultz has better rebounding and passing than kyrie, lilliard , and roy.
Ive been seeing this a lot.

McCollum as the floor is absurd. His floor is as a shorter Evan Turner with a jumper, but without the post game.
Fultz isn't an iso player like turner so no idea what you mean
the point is that listing Fultz floor as a 23/4/4 guy is absolutely absurd.
how is that absurd? Have you seen fultz numbers and efficiency? This isn't anthony Bennett and kwame brown we're talking about

Re: Fultz comparisons
« Reply #111 on: May 18, 2017, 07:03:16 PM »

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Found this article, with lots of videos, that show what makes Fultz special.  As you will see, he has no issues getting to the rim.

https://fansided.com/2017/05/10/markelle-fultz-ball-handling-kyrie-irving-nba-draft/

Thanks, TP

Re: Fultz comparisons
« Reply #112 on: May 18, 2017, 07:03:25 PM »

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He's fast too and can run the floor.   I expect that from him too.  Run, Run Run.  If we are going to beat lebron through the draft and how we are building this vs going another direction,  it's going to be with strength and quickness.  Fultz is fine.

Re: Fultz comparisons
« Reply #113 on: May 18, 2017, 07:07:01 PM »

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There is nothing limiting Fultz besides possibly his brain and all of yours.  Offensively and defensively there is nothing he can't do.  yeah he is a bit undersized.  But its all how the team compliments him as well.

He should be able to use his brain and realize this and use his strengths in other ways as well but thats not to say he shouldnt use his physicality or quickness.  He's fine.

Comparisons are silly that way. I make them to but they are. Especially in fultz's case because he really isn't that limited.

He's not like ben simmons who hoards the ball, he pretty well rounded and plays on and off the ball.  Can shoot, drive the lane catch and shoot, play physical etc.  pass the ball etc..

Re: Fultz comparisons
« Reply #114 on: May 18, 2017, 07:10:52 PM »

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Ceiling: better version of John wall
Floor: cj mccollum

Fultz has a better shooting than wall and kyrie. Fultz has better rebounding and passing than kyrie, lilliard , and roy.
Ive been seeing this a lot.

McCollum as the floor is absurd. His floor is as a shorter Evan Turner with a jumper, but without the post game.
Fultz isn't an iso player like turner so no idea what you mean
the point is that listing Fultz floor as a 23/4/4 guy is absolutely absurd.
how is that absurd? Have you seen fultz numbers and efficiency? This isn't anthony Bennett and kwame brown we're talking about
Hes not Kwame Brown but he is still an unproven young player who has played one college season for an irrelevant college team. I think the idea that his worst case scenario is that of a 23/4/4 player by the end of his rookie contract is massively underselling his downside.

i completely expect Fultz to be better than CJ mcCollum but it is entirely possible that he never reaches that level.

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« Reply #115 on: May 18, 2017, 07:12:52 PM »

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There is nothing limiting Fultz besides possibly his brain and all of yours.  Offensively and defensively there is nothing he can't do.  yeah he is a bit undersized.  But its all how the team compliments him as well.

He should be able to use his brain and realize this and use his strengths in other ways as well but thats not to say he shouldnt use his physicality or quickness.  He's fine.

Comparisons are silly that way. I make them to but they are. Especially in fultz's case because he really isn't that limited.

He's not like ben simmons who hoards the ball, he pretty well rounded and plays on and off the ball.  Can shoot, drive the lane catch and shoot, play physical etc.
How is Fultz undersized? He has terrific size for the 1 and honestly pretty decent size for the 2 as well.

Also please explain to me how this makes any sense:
"There is nothing limiting Fultz besides possibly his brain and all of yours"

how could the brain of Cs blog limit Markelle Fultz?

Re: Fultz comparisons
« Reply #116 on: May 18, 2017, 07:15:08 PM »

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I mean he isn't 6'10. he's a guard.  he's undersized compared to ben simmons yeah.   I don't expect him to play like Shaq.

He's limited in that regard from an nba perspective. Other than that no.

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« Reply #117 on: May 18, 2017, 07:28:25 PM »

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That's kind of an absurd way to look at it. It's like saying Lebron is slow because he isn't as quick as IT.

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« Reply #118 on: May 18, 2017, 07:30:09 PM »

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I mean he isn't 6'10. he's a guard.  he's undersized compared to ben simmons yeah.   I don't expect him to play like Shaq.

He's limited in that regard from an nba perspective. Other than that no.

Simmons isn't a PG though Philly will try to turn him into one. Sag off that dude all day and make him shoot.

Re: Fultz comparisons
« Reply #119 on: May 18, 2017, 07:30:45 PM »

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People sleep on fultz ability to assist and rebound. The guy can pass and see plays before they happen. He can pass anywhere. He's not on lonzo ball level of passing but he's close