Fultz comparisons

[CF0022]

I think athletically he is fine.  That's a good point though in ways.  I worry about his mindset and maturity more than anything. He is a bit on the soft side at this point.  He plays like IT or AB without that extra whatever it is.  Super smooth though. He tries to play things cool too a bit too much for my liking at this point too.

I love seeing players that play with explosion and just have that mindset.  He's definately talented.  I see a damian lillard type player but he is going to have to play with a chip.

[ThaPreacher]

Physically, Fultz measures out similar to Dwyane Wade.  Here are their pre-draft measurements:

Wade (NBA combine):  6' 4.75" w/shoes, 6' 10.75" wingspan, 212 lb, 8' 6" standing reach
Fultz (Nike Hoop Summit):  6' 4.75" w/shoes, 6' 9" wingspan, 186 lb, 8' 6" standing reach

Some reports have indicated that Fultz' wingspan may now be over 6' 10", but I don't have a measurement that shows that.  The Hoop Summit was quite a while ago and he very likely could have grown since then so it wouldn't surprise me.    Obviously, he's not built like quite the bull that Wade was, but could probably pack on more muscle as he grows.  He's only 18 after all.  Wade was 21 years old when drafted.

Game-wise, Fultz' offensive skill-set is basically similar to James Harden or Isaiah Thomas.  He can score from all ranges on the court and in a variety of ways.  His body control is elite and freakish.  Beautiful form on his jumper.  Can shoot from range, drive and pull-up, drive to the hoop, drive to get fouls.  All of his offensive weapons project to the NBA.

Here's a pic of Fultz from a week ago.  He's already getting built.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BTuq3wqAhCX/?taken-by=fultznation

I don't know,,,he looks kinda skinny and small.....why is he wearing a black sweatshirt?

[CF0022]

Cleveland beat us last night because they simply outphysicalled us and beat us to the punch. Fultz doesn't really help that. Paul George doesn't really  either though that's the thing.

We have to play with a combination of flow and physical play and hit shots. We get out of that we are screwed. I don't think it matters whether we have fultz or paul george in that regard.  More mature established talent can be better that way though when they know its their last shot.

The one thing I worry abut with Fultz is his maturity that way. 

cleveland was just a better team than us last night.

[CF0022]

I think the main issue with fultz is expecting  a 20 year old to go up against a 32 year old and not get his ass kicked is asking for trouble.  It happens but Lebron is pretty good.  Fultz would have to be really good to do that. It's more about our other guys and how we pace and physical the game ourselves as a whole.

Then yeah you can have a 20 year old tom brady come in and surprise some people. Fultz for us would more be in that role his rookie year.  And a sparkplug.

[droopdog7]

Found this article, with lots of videos, that show what makes Fultz special.  As you will see, he has no issues getting to the rim.

https://fansided.com/2017/05/10/markelle-fultz-ball-handling-kyrie-irving-nba-draft/

[CF0022]

He definately does.  HE plays like IT with more ups at the college level.  When teams in the nba at the top level are out physically though in the nba finals though its different.

Suddenly you can't hit shots. Can't get to the rim etc.  You need to create a wall in ways.   Or have the maturity in other ways. 

[CF0022]

a good comparison for fultz would be dwade with a better jump shot in that regard as a young player when he had shaq and got to the hoop like superman as a young player and won a title.

So dwade with  more range.

[tarheelsxxiii]

Found this article, with lots of videos, that show what makes Fultz special.  As you will see, he has no issues getting to the rim.

https://fansided.com/2017/05/10/markelle-fultz-ball-handling-kyrie-irving-nba-draft/

He's really good.  Rozier should read this article.

[CF0022]

We should still definately take fultz.  I'm still about 70/80 percent certain. That may flip and we could go with George and Hayward and a more experienced group and just take our chances iwth that for the next 5 years but I don't know.

What we also need is another big man other than Amir that is physical besides Horford.  KO isn't it.

Yabusele and Zizic should help us next year. Either way we need to be more physical and not lose pace.

just outquick them too. Lebron is an Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline. lol.

[droopdog7]

Physically, Fultz measures out similar to Dwyane Wade.  Here are their pre-draft measurements:

Wade (NBA combine):  6' 4.75" w/shoes, 6' 10.75" wingspan, 212 lb, 8' 6" standing reach
Fultz (Nike Hoop Summit):  6' 4.75" w/shoes, 6' 9" wingspan, 186 lb, 8' 6" standing reach

Some reports have indicated that Fultz' wingspan may now be over 6' 10", but I don't have a measurement that shows that.  The Hoop Summit was quite a while ago and he very likely could have grown since then so it wouldn't surprise me.    Obviously, he's not built like quite the bull that Wade was, but could probably pack on more muscle as he grows.  He's only 18 after all.  Wade was 21 years old when drafted.

Game-wise, Fultz' offensive skill-set is basically similar to James Harden or Isaiah Thomas.  He can score from all ranges on the court and in a variety of ways.  His body control is elite and freakish.  Beautiful form on his jumper.  Can shoot from range, drive and pull-up, drive to the hoop, drive to get fouls.  All of his offensive weapons project to the NBA.

Here's a pic of Fultz from a week ago.  He's already getting built.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BTuq3wqAhCX/?taken-by=fultznation

I don't know,,,he looks kinda skinny and small.....why is he wearing a black sweatshirt?

I suppose this is a joke that went over my head?  Fultz is the one with the purple tank top.

[CelticsElite]

Ceiling: better version of John wall
Floor: cj mccollum

Fultz has a better shooting than wall and kyrie. Fultz has better rebounding and passing than kyrie, lilliard , and roy.

Ive been seeing this a lot.

McCollum as the floor is absurd. His floor is as a shorter Evan Turner with a jumper, but without the post game.

Fultz isn't an iso player like turner so no idea what you mean

[Ilikesports17]

Ceiling: better version of John wall
Floor: cj mccollum

Fultz has a better shooting than wall and kyrie. Fultz has better rebounding and passing than kyrie, lilliard , and roy.

Ive been seeing this a lot.

McCollum as the floor is absurd. His floor is as a shorter Evan Turner with a jumper, but without the post game.

Fultz isn't an iso player like turner so no idea what you mean

the point is that listing Fultz floor as a 23/4/4 guy is absolutely absurd.

[CF0022]

If he is Mccollum we don't want him. Same with Turner.  He's more like neither.  I don't understand those comparisons at all.  If he ends up a perimeter player or an iso player in the nba primarily he is useless to us. 

I have those concerns myself but he's not that.  He's more like dwade hopefully with more range.

IF he ends up a soft version of dwade that's no good either. Then he's basically derrick coleman playing guard.   He's a bust.

[CF0022]

I more see him playing with pace and flow even over dwade. I think he's like IT but bigger and more physical and plays with a chip hopefully.


In order to be successful in todays game you have to play with pace but you also have to be physical.  It's a combination especially at the highest level.

The regular season is not nearly as physical as the playoffs.

[droopdog7]

If he is Mccollum we don't want him. Same with Turner.  He's more like neither.  I don't understand those comparisons at all.  If he ends up a perimeter player or an iso player in the nba primarily he is useless to us. 

I have those concerns myself but he's not that.  He's more like dwade hopefully with more range.

IF he ends up a soft version of dwade that's no good either. Then he's basically derrick coleman playing guard.   He's a bust.

So unless he's a superstar he's a bust?  Talk about unrealistic expectations.  Some of those comps (like CJ) are very good players.  Not saying he won't be a star let's be real as well.