Fultz comparisons

[Tr1boy]

i still say Beal is the best and closest comparison

Beal more of a pure SG
and Fultz more of a PG - so better handle , vision. But Beal a better pure shooter

body, athleticism, strengh, length... almost identical

[Ed Hollison]

Are people here worried about Fultz's lack of speed and explosion? I mean, he's hardly unathletic, but he doesn't jump out of the gym like other prospects. I think he's got tremendous talent that will translate to the NBA. For instance, he already looks comfortable in the pick & roll, which is a staple of NBA offenses. But I'd be concerned that he'd have trouble dribbling around the corner of a trap, for instance, or that you could put a similarly-sized SG on him and he wouldn't be quick enough to beat the defender off the dribble.

It's really hard to say. The other factor is that he's about to turn 19. Even physically speaking he could be totally different 2-3 years from now.

[droopdog7]

I'm not sure what you guys are seeing who compare him to explosive point guards.  He can finish and dunk because he has long arms.  He's crafty like Steve Nash and James Harden so he gets where he wants.  But he doesn't explode like Baron Davis, Lillard, Roy, etc.  His defensive limitations will not only be because of effort.  He has long arms which helps, but his feet don't move particularly fast.  He will be no Avery Bradley on defense.

I agree that Fultz doesn't look explosive.  But there are some guys that just make it look different.  I see highlights where he looks to coasting through defenses, yet, he's getting by guys with relative ease.

[CELTICSofBOSTON]

I think physically he is a lot like James Harden but obviously a tad skinnier.

Same height and wingspan give or take an inch.  Same smoothness. Similar speed explosiveness and bounce.

Great scoring instincts and great playmaking ability.  Hopefully Fultz can defend a little bit.

[Tr1boy]

Are people here worried about Fultz's lack of speed and explosion? I mean, he's hardly unathletic, but he doesn't jump out of the gym like other prospects. I think he's got tremendous talent that will translate to the NBA. For instance, he already looks comfortable in the pick & roll, which is a staple of NBA offenses. But I'd be concerned that he'd have trouble dribbling around the corner of a trap, for instance, or that you could put a similarly-sized SG on him and he wouldn't be quick enough to beat the defender off the dribble.

It's really hard to say. The other factor is that he's about to turn 19. Even physically speaking he could be totally different 2-3 years from now.

Fultz is still young and his body is not a finished product

so he could still become a little more quicker and explosive

but yeah...naturally he is no Rose or RW... or even Harden

Fultz has big hands and feet...which is good but could be impairing ability to explode quicker

[PhoSita]

Are people here worried about Fultz's lack of speed and explosion? I mean, he's hardly unathletic, but he doesn't jump out of the gym like other prospects. I think he's got tremendous talent that will translate to the NBA. For instance, he already looks comfortable in the pick & roll, which is a staple of NBA offenses. But I'd be concerned that he'd have trouble dribbling around the corner of a trap, for instance, or that you could put a similarly-sized SG on him and he wouldn't be quick enough to beat the defender off the dribble.

It's really hard to say. The other factor is that he's about to turn 19. Even physically speaking he could be totally different 2-3 years from now.

From what I've seen, his athleticism is deceptive, like Harden, plus he has great length, body control, and size, which can make up for a lack of explosion.

[mspring]

Are people here worried about Fultz's lack of speed and explosion? I mean, he's hardly unathletic, but he doesn't jump out of the gym like other prospects. I think he's got tremendous talent that will translate to the NBA. For instance, he already looks comfortable in the pick & roll, which is a staple of NBA offenses. But I'd be concerned that he'd have trouble dribbling around the corner of a trap, for instance, or that you could put a similarly-sized SG on him and he wouldn't be quick enough to beat the defender off the dribble.

It's really hard to say. The other factor is that he's about to turn 19. Even physically speaking he could be totally different 2-3 years from now.

From what I've seen, his athleticism is deceptive, like Harden, plus he has great length, body control, and size, which can make up for a lack of explosion.

I agree, his athleticism is deceptive.  I think that is because he plays at his own pace, which is extremely rare for a young player.  Most young players have all sorts of raw speed and athleticism and don't quite know how to use it and play out of control a lot.  To me Fultz is rare in that he plays at his own pace and is able to adjust his speed and get to where he wants to very well.  I know this may sound like a strange comparison because they don't play the same position, but in this area he reminds me of Paul Pierce.

[Who]

How about Ginobili?

Nah. It is just the combo guard nature of their play. The versatility on offense and capacity to impact the game on defense and rebounding. Plus good athleticism with surprising burst.

[Tr1boy]

Ginobili

CRAZY??

not bad actually...

[GreenFaith1819]

I'm just glad we are in the position to pick him.

I am still shocked that we are getting the number 1 pick. Things are really looking up for this franchise.

[kozlodoev]

Are people here worried about Fultz's lack of speed and explosion? I mean, he's hardly unathletic, but he doesn't jump out of the gym like other prospects. I think he's got tremendous talent that will translate to the NBA. For instance, he already looks comfortable in the pick & roll, which is a staple of NBA offenses. But I'd be concerned that he'd have trouble dribbling around the corner of a trap, for instance, or that you could put a similarly-sized SG on him and he wouldn't be quick enough to beat the defender off the dribble.

It's really hard to say. The other factor is that he's about to turn 19. Even physically speaking he could be totally different 2-3 years from now.

From what I've seen, his athleticism is deceptive, like Harden, plus he has great length, body control, and size, which can make up for a lack of explosion.

I am concerned that I don't see any burst in his first step, yes. On one hand, this literally killed Adam Morrison's career. On the other hand, an older Ray Alen (whose "deceptive athleticism" I find eerily similar to what Fultz looks right now) was just fine. Hard to say which way the tide will turn.

[Celtics4ever]

look up at the 1:00 mark:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csAJR3w1JII



He can do the foul line dunk folks.  at 1:19 

Usually guys who can do that have zero problem with athletic abilities.   Don't confuse doing it and looking easy for lack of ability.

Another one here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCWN7XE3g2g

His head is above the rim at points.

he does some amazing trick shots here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3ONLR2oO4E

[fubar089]

monta ellis

[kozlodoev]

look up at the 1:00 mark:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csAJR3w1JII



He can do the foul line dunk folks.  at 1:19 

Usually guys who can do that have zero problem with athletic abilities.   Don't confuse doing it and looking easy for lack of ability.

Another one here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCWN7XE3g2g

His head is above the rim at points.

he does some amazing trick shots here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3ONLR2oO4E

I see decent but not otherworldly leaping ability. Gerald Green had at least four extra inches on dunks like this during the dunk contest. I think the bigger problem is  he doesn't have first-step explosiveness that makes the greatest scorers hard to guard.

[droopdog7]

look up at the 1:00 mark:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csAJR3w1JII



He can do the foul line dunk folks.  at 1:19 

Usually guys who can do that have zero problem with athletic abilities.   Don't confuse doing it and looking easy for lack of ability.

Another one here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCWN7XE3g2g

His head is above the rim at points.

he does some amazing trick shots here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3ONLR2oO4E

I see decent but not otherworldly leaping ability. Gerald Green had at least four extra inches on dunks like this during the dunk contest. I think the bigger problem is  he doesn't have first-step explosiveness that makes the greatest scorers hard to guard.

First, I'm not looking at dunk contest for athleticism.  The trick is to be able to explode in game conditions, moving at angles.  Don't care too much about how high a guy can jump. 

That said, Fultz is definitely athletic enough.  And his change of pace, and change of direction are off the charts.  He's incredibly slick and sophisticated for some his age.