Rumor: Agents Fearful For Rookie Clients Drafted By "Loaded" Boston

[chilidawg]

  If Ainge rolls it back with Conan the Destroyer (KO) and Amir and Jerebko, I for one will be disappointed.  I am also of the mindset that KO is not your future starting four.   He is too uneven in performance.

So let's get rid of KO and  Amir. I guess we keep Zeller and Mickey ?

I would love to sign Blake griffin or acquire Marc  Gasol.  Just think it is pretty unrealistic  financially.

I'm fine with keeping KO and Amir as backups. If we can get better bigs in FA that are affordable and who fit our system then I'm all for that. I think we are going to have to settle for whatever Danny  can come up with in FA. Better get used to KO and Amir.

 Be thankful  if we can keep them on team friendly contracts.

Also the Grizz just signed Gasol and Conley long term.  Don't see them trading Gasol away.

The position that we need the most should not be occupied by Amir/KO next year....especially if we strike out on FA's. With the GSW and Cavs being legit contenders for the next 2 years, I'd honestly rather blow the team up, have 2 top picks next year, trade IT/AB instead of letting them walk....

There ought to be a special place in hell for tankers like you.

[Future Celtics Owner]

Once again, the media finds a way to dream up a negative twist to the Celtics rosy draft position. Cynical, aren't they?

media hate never ends

You guys sound like Sean Hannity.  I doubt the media has it out for the Celtics.  This is just a dumb story filling space on the internet.  The agents can hold their players back from pre-draft visits to the Celtics.  This doesn't sound like a very smart thing to do.  Really bad first impression to make on the NBA.

If it were the Lakers instead of the Celtics in this situation, I doubt we ever see this story. Partly because the media prefers the Lakers, partly because players prefer to play in LA instead of Boston.

Vermontgreen, remember in 2008 when C's fans were compared to Nazi's/Hitler supporters. Usually, if a celebrity/media personality compares someone to Hitler they get fired immediately or at minimum suspended. The person who wrote that piece not only did not lose her job but now stars in her own show. No consequences, besides the piece being taken down, just constant work for a woman that IMO has no business being in that business.

[Evantime34]

Completely unconcerned by this.

The higher a player gets picked, the more money they make. Players aren't given their second contract based on what they do in their first year. By the time players get to the end of their rookie contracts they will have had plenty of time to prove themselves.

[KGBirdBias]

Since when are we "loaded" with talent. This is BS. All year we heard the Celtics don't have any talent and now all of a sudden we're loaded. This shows the national media do not watch the Celtics and know what's needed. It's like the only games they saw all season was the Cavs blowout win, both Bulls games they won and the Wiz games.

I thought no one wanted our players in trades but now we're loaded. LOL Too funny...I hope we win the lottery, there will be so much slander towards the Celtics it's not funny. It's really called hate.

[manl_lui]

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2709466-celtics-rumors-agents-fearful-for-rookie-clients-drafted-by-loaded-boston

Agents for top prospects in the 2017 NBA draft on June 22 are reportedly worried about what would happen to their clients if the "loaded" Boston Celtics selected them.             

On Saturday, ESPN's Chad Ford passed along comments one player representative made about the situation with the Celtics, who finished with the Eastern Conference's best record and are still alive in the 2017 NBA playoffs but will pick early in the draft thanks to a swap with the Brooklyn Nets.

"I have deep respect for the Celtics," the agent said. "They may have the best GM and head coach in the league. But I'd have to understand what the plan would be for my client before I let them come. They are loaded at every position. There's a real danger that they take a player and either he plays a limited role [off] the bench or he becomes an asset to be traded to a situation that we're uncomfortable with. It's tough."

Boston owns the best chance (25 percent) to land the first overall pick in Tuesday's NBA draft lottery thanks to the Nets' dreadful 20-62 campaign. The Celts will draft no worse than fourth, which means they are guaranteed a shot at one of the class' most coveted players.

A trio of point guards—Washington's Markelle Fultz, UCLA's Lonzo Ball and Kentucky's De'Aaron Fox—along with Kansas small forward Josh Jackson headline the group of available prospects.

Jackson makes the most sense from the group since the Celtics already feature star point guard Isaiah Thomas. Even the Jayhawks standout would be forced to contend with Jae Crowder and Jaylen Brown for playing time at the 3 for a team not expected to lose any key pieces in free agency, though.

That's an unusual situation for a prized rookie, most of whom are drafted to rebuilding teams where they can immediately take on massive roles.

In turn, the Celtics might try to leverage the pick to acquire an established star. Adrian Wojnarowski of The Vertical reported ahead of February's trade deadline that Boston included the selection in talks with the Indiana Pacers for Paul George, but the sides never reached a deal.

How much the Celtics can demand likely depends on where they land after the lottery. The first pick, giving the other team an option to choose from any of the aforementioned top players, would command far more on the trade market than if Boston slides to No. 4.

If the C's keep the selection, whatever prospect they choose will need to earn playing time, which understandably seems to have agents rattled with six weeks until the draft at the Barclays Center in New York.

I do find it kind of funny when they say Boston is "loaded" at every position. I think this team needs LOTS of upgrades after Horford at the 4 and 5 positions, but yeah, this draft is guard heavy and they are pretty loaded there.

I think the Paul George to Boston narrative is not really serious. No way Ainge will trade for him unless he agrees to a long term commitment, and George most likely won't. Case closed.

But it's still an option to leverage the pick for a legit star, especially if it lands outside #1 or #2.

same, I do think we need upgrades at the 3 4 5, guards yes...those agents are probably representing the guards going in the lotto like Ball, Fultz, etc...I doubt they're agents representing bigs

[nickagneta]

  If Ainge rolls it back with Conan the Destroyer (KO) and Amir and Jerebko, I for one will be disappointed.  I am also of the mindset that KO is not your future starting four.   He is too uneven in performance.

So let's get rid of KO and  Amir. I guess we keep Zeller and Mickey ?

I would love to sign Blake griffin or acquire Marc  Gasol.  Just think it is pretty unrealistic  financially.

I'm fine with keeping KO and Amir as backups. If we can get better bigs in FA that are affordable and who fit our system then I'm all for that. I think we are going to have to settle for whatever Danny  can come up with in FA. Better get used to KO and Amir.

 Be thankful  if we can keep them on team friendly contracts.

Also the Grizz just signed Gasol and Conley long term.  Don't see them trading Gasol away.

The position that we need the most should not be occupied by Amir/KO next year....especially if we strike out on FA's. With the GSW and Cavs being legit contenders for the next 2 years, I'd honestly rather blow the team up, have 2 top picks next year, trade IT/AB instead of letting them walk....

This isn't 2k17 or fantasy basketball. You don't blow up a team simply because the other teams have better players. You build towards being a contender and like any contending team hope for health, good shooting, and some luck.

Blowing it up is not something you do at this point of the team build. That's just a non-option. Though given your past posts regarding tanking and love of 19 year old players, it doesn't surprise me you think we should blow up this team.

[green_bballers13]

  If Ainge rolls it back with Conan the Destroyer (KO) and Amir and Jerebko, I for one will be disappointed.  I am also of the mindset that KO is not your future starting four.   He is too uneven in performance.

So let's get rid of KO and  Amir. I guess we keep Zeller and Mickey ?

I would love to sign Blake griffin or acquire Marc  Gasol.  Just think it is pretty unrealistic  financially.

I'm fine with keeping KO and Amir as backups. If we can get better bigs in FA that are affordable and who fit our system then I'm all for that. I think we are going to have to settle for whatever Danny  can come up with in FA. Better get used to KO and Amir.

 Be thankful  if we can keep them on team friendly contracts.

Also the Grizz just signed Gasol and Conley long term.  Don't see them trading Gasol away.

The position that we need the most should not be occupied by Amir/KO next year....especially if we strike out on FA's. With the GSW and Cavs being legit contenders for the next 2 years, I'd honestly rather blow the team up, have 2 top picks next year, trade IT/AB instead of letting them walk....

Wowsers. Blow this team up? They don't need to.... they have two high 1st round picks coming. What would be the purpose of trading away useful players?

[Future Celtics Owner]

  If Ainge rolls it back with Conan the Destroyer (KO) and Amir and Jerebko, I for one will be disappointed.  I am also of the mindset that KO is not your future starting four.   He is too uneven in performance.

So let's get rid of KO and  Amir. I guess we keep Zeller and Mickey ?

I would love to sign Blake griffin or acquire Marc  Gasol.  Just think it is pretty unrealistic  financially.

I'm fine with keeping KO and Amir as backups. If we can get better bigs in FA that are affordable and who fit our system then I'm all for that. I think we are going to have to settle for whatever Danny  can come up with in FA. Better get used to KO and Amir.

 Be thankful  if we can keep them on team friendly contracts.

Also the Grizz just signed Gasol and Conley long term.  Don't see them trading Gasol away.

The position that we need the most should not be occupied by Amir/KO next year....especially if we strike out on FA's. With the GSW and Cavs being legit contenders for the next 2 years, I'd honestly rather blow the team up, have 2 top picks next year, trade IT/AB instead of letting them walk....

This isn't 2k17 or fantasy basketball. You don't blow up a team simply because the other teams have better players. You build towards being a contender and like any contending team hope for health, good shooting, and some luck.

Blowing it up is not something you do at this point of the team build. That's just a non-option. Though given your past posts regarding tanking and love of 19 year old players, it doesn't surprise me you think we should blow up this team.

At least say those 19 year old players were Myles Turner and Brandon Ingram dude.

I get where you are coming from but I just have a different opinion based solely on winning 7 game series and championships, we only have 1 more then the Lakers. I don't think you should be coming at me personally tho nic, portraying me as some noob for:
-Having a legitimate concern with IT being signed (in a year)to max or near max money @ age of 29-34. We can't hand out max deals to everyone nic. He has the offense and heart but taking such a beating and being so undersized, well I think it's fine to question what his value to the team will be at 29-33/34 and at what rate his production will decrease.
- . Will a FA signing this summer put us in contention with GSW and CLE? What if we miss out on FA do we have a plan. If we miss out on FA do we pay a ransom for PG or Butler, would the upgrade at the 2 or 3 pay us back in the playoffs or would it be better to go after a 4 or 5.(all rhetorical)
-Bringing up our gameplan of HIDING IT on defense...can't hide IT on DURANT/LEBRON/ like we did with Otto Porter.
-have we come to a decision to let AB walk in a year...bc he's helped a lot in the playoffs. Don't count on Smart imo to take over for Avery's production in a playoff series.
- is it not the more shrewd act to get value for players before they walk? (rhetorical)
-What would have happened if RR did not get hurt. He had our number and IT could not be easily hidden on Butler/Wade and gave up a ton of length.

3 reactions to this:denial,anger,acceptance but I still do not deserve anything personal for voicing concerns about this team and it's future/core players

[csfansince60s]

Completely unconcerned by this.

The higher a player gets picked, the more money they make. Players aren't given their second contract based on what they do in their first year. By the time players get to the end of their rookie contracts they will have had plenty of time to prove themselves.

TP...thanks for saying succinctly and more accurately in one paragraph what it took me 6 to say on the page before.

Completely agree.

[nickagneta]

  If Ainge rolls it back with Conan the Destroyer (KO) and Amir and Jerebko, I for one will be disappointed.  I am also of the mindset that KO is not your future starting four.   He is too uneven in performance.

So let's get rid of KO and  Amir. I guess we keep Zeller and Mickey ?

I would love to sign Blake griffin or acquire Marc  Gasol.  Just think it is pretty unrealistic  financially.

I'm fine with keeping KO and Amir as backups. If we can get better bigs in FA that are affordable and who fit our system then I'm all for that. I think we are going to have to settle for whatever Danny  can come up with in FA. Better get used to KO and Amir.

 Be thankful  if we can keep them on team friendly contracts.

Also the Grizz just signed Gasol and Conley long term.  Don't see them trading Gasol away.

The position that we need the most should not be occupied by Amir/KO next year....especially if we strike out on FA's. With the GSW and Cavs being legit contenders for the next 2 years, I'd honestly rather blow the team up, have 2 top picks next year, trade IT/AB instead of letting them walk....

This isn't 2k17 or fantasy basketball. You don't blow up a team simply because the other teams have better players. You build towards being a contender and like any contending team hope for health, good shooting, and some luck.

Blowing it up is not something you do at this point of the team build. That's just a non-option. Though given your past posts regarding tanking and love of 19 year old players, it doesn't surprise me you think we should blow up this team.

At least say those 19 year old players were Myles Turner and Brandon Ingram dude.

I get where you are coming from but I just have a different opinion based solely on winning 7 game series and championships, we only have 1 more then the Lakers. I don't think you should be coming at me personally tho nic, portraying me as some noob for:
-Having a legitimate concern with IT being signed (in a year)to max or near max money @ age of 29-34. We can't hand out max deals to everyone nic. He has the offense and heart but taking such a beating and being so undersized, well I think it's fine to question what his value to the team will be at 29-33/34 and at what rate his production will decrease.
- . Will a FA signing this summer put us in contention with GSW and CLE? What if we miss out on FA do we have a plan. If we miss out on FA do we pay a ransom for PG or Butler, would the upgrade at the 2 or 3 pay us back in the playoffs or would it be better to go after a 4 or 5.(all rhetorical)
-Bringing up our gameplan of HIDING IT on defense...can't hide IT on DURANT/LEBRON/ like we did with Otto Porter.
-have we come to a decision to let AB walk in a year...bc he's helped a lot in the playoffs. Don't count on Smart imo to take over for Avery's production in a playoff series.
- is it not the more shrewd act to get value for players before they walk? (rhetorical)
-What would have happened if RR did not get hurt. He had our number and IT could not be easily hidden on Butler/Wade and gave up a ton of length.

3 reactions to this:denial,anger,acceptance but I still do not deserve anything personal for voicing concerns about this team and it's future/core players

Yeah, I didn't insult you personally. I just disagreed, stated my reason why, and stated your personal posting history. It was someone else that insulted you by saying "there was a place in hell for a tanker like you". That's insulting. What I wrote was not and not sure why you took it that way.

[Denis998]

who cares what the agents think

[Celtics4ever]

So let's get rid of KO and  Amir. I guess we keep Zeller and Mickey ?

I don't mind Zeller but Mickey is not yet a proven NBA player.    Amir and KO are but have their warts, I think it is position we could use an upgrade over what we have.   In no way, did I imply that Mickey or Zeller are that upgrade.   

[Bobshot]

This is typical anti Boston BS coming out of NY and ESPN. WEEI is tweeting this from Chad Ford of ESPN. On the day of the 7th game of the current series.

I have no use for any of these mediots. It amounts to fake news, which is so prevalent in the sports media.

[Ilikesports17]

  If Ainge rolls it back with Conan the Destroyer (KO) and Amir and Jerebko, I for one will be disappointed.  I am also of the mindset that KO is not your future starting four.   He is too uneven in performance.

So let's get rid of KO and  Amir. I guess we keep Zeller and Mickey ?

I would love to sign Blake griffin or acquire Marc  Gasol.  Just think it is pretty unrealistic  financially.

I'm fine with keeping KO and Amir as backups. If we can get better bigs in FA that are affordable and who fit our system then I'm all for that. I think we are going to have to settle for whatever Danny  can come up with in FA. Better get used to KO and Amir.

 Be thankful  if we can keep them on team friendly contracts.

Also the Grizz just signed Gasol and Conley long term.  Don't see them trading Gasol away.

The position that we need the most should not be occupied by Amir/KO next year....especially if we strike out on FA's. With the GSW and Cavs being legit contenders for the next 2 years, I'd honestly rather blow the team up, have 2 top picks next year, trade IT/AB instead of letting them walk....

This isn't 2k17 or fantasy basketball. You don't blow up a team simply because the other teams have better players. You build towards being a contender and like any contending team hope for health, good shooting, and some luck.

Blowing it up is not something you do at this point of the team build. That's just a non-option. Though given your past posts regarding tanking and love of 19 year old players, it doesn't surprise me you think we should blow up this team.

At least say those 19 year old players were Myles Turner and Brandon Ingram dude.

I get where you are coming from but I just have a different opinion based solely on winning 7 game series and championships, we only have 1 more then the Lakers. I don't think you should be coming at me personally tho nic, portraying me as some noob for:
-Having a legitimate concern with IT being signed (in a year)to max or near max money @ age of 29-34. We can't hand out max deals to everyone nic. He has the offense and heart but taking such a beating and being so undersized, well I think it's fine to question what his value to the team will be at 29-33/34 and at what rate his production will decrease.
- . Will a FA signing this summer put us in contention with GSW and CLE? What if we miss out on FA do we have a plan. If we miss out on FA do we pay a ransom for PG or Butler, would the upgrade at the 2 or 3 pay us back in the playoffs or would it be better to go after a 4 or 5.(all rhetorical)
-Bringing up our gameplan of HIDING IT on defense...can't hide IT on DURANT/LEBRON/ like we did with Otto Porter.
-have we come to a decision to let AB walk in a year...bc he's helped a lot in the playoffs. Don't count on Smart imo to take over for Avery's production in a playoff series.
- is it not the more shrewd act to get value for players before they walk? (rhetorical)
-What would have happened if RR did not get hurt. He had our number and IT could not be easily hidden on Butler/Wade and gave up a ton of length.

3 reactions to this:denial,anger,acceptance but I still do not deserve anything personal for voicing concerns about this team and it's future/core players

Im gonna agree with Nick. The whole trade the entire team for these six 19 year-old we can acquire over the next 2 drafts, is just unrealistic.

If you wanna follow your own rules, it looks like you are on stage one. denial.

[tarheelsxxiii]

Being grouped with the Kings for the opposite reason? I take that as a compliment.