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Yeah, it is a stupid article LOL. Just posted it here to get some thoughts about it.

It's ALSO posted on the front of this site now.

I think the most important thing here is Fultz would 100% be on board to play with the C's and his good friend, IT.

Only Ball seems like someone who may hesitate (and I don't want him here anyways)
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Once again, the media finds a way to dream up a negative twist to the Celtics rosy draft position. Cynical, aren't they?

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Once again, the media finds a way to dream up a negative twist to the Celtics rosy draft position. Cynical, aren't they?

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Al Horford would disagree.

Really because a lot of the time he plays at C.   I don't think he likes playing C but at this point it is what his body can do.    I think he would like some help besides up and down KO and brittle Amir.   He played C in the Chicago series.    He plays C as soon as we go small ball which is the majority of the time.   So take those in account and given our lack of rebounding, I bet he would agree with me and not with you!

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Don't believe this narrative for a second.

If you were an agent, would you want your client going to the Kings who are a complete mess and an embarrassment or to a team like the Celtics who aren't likely to trade your client during the All Star game?

Stability is as important to players and agents, plus lets say we get Fultz or Ball, or whomever, it will only likely be in their Rookie year where they play less than 20 mins.

From their sophomore year onwards, they are looking at 30 mins a game guaranteed.

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  If Ainge rolls it back with Conan the Destroyer (KO) and Amir and Jerebko, I for one will be disappointed.  I am also of the mindset that KO is not your future starting four.   He is too uneven in performance.

Shouldn't that be KOnan the Destroyer? ;)

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Yeah, it is a stupid article LOL. Just posted it here to get some thoughts about it.

It's ALSO posted on the front of this site now.

I think the most important thing here is Fultz would 100% be on board to play with the C's and his good friend, IT.

Only Ball seems like someone who may hesitate (and I don't want him here anyways)

Yeah, it's either BAll or maybe JAckson's camp saying this. Hayward could mean they use the pick to trade for a big in Jacksons case. And the BBB team can't understand that Ball would be setting up IT all night long.

Fultz has the right attitude with coming to the C's HE's said his passing and IT's shooting would be deadly. Having a bigger PG helps with traps at mid court, takes pressure off of IT, and gives him more room to work.

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Agent has a fiduciary responsibility to get his client the highest value. Obviously, client will be overjoyed to be drafted by a top organization like the Celtics and....oh lookee here, get paid millions and millions of dollars by a top organization.

So Mr. agent? You want your 19 year old client to start next year and get clocked night in and night out? Lose over and over again?

Avery Bradley fought his way onto the team. Learned to play the right way and is now one of the better two's in the league, not to mention probably, one player most coaches want on the court in a playoff game.

Why would an agent want that?

Brown has got a ways to go and he is working with the right people to get him there.

Your client might get traded? What!? Pretty much everybody gets traded.

"We don't want to get traded to the wrong team."

Take your 3% of the mountain of money your client makes and shut up.

Playing time means stats means more money. That's where the agent is coming from. He's worried about the financial aspects of his client's second contract.


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Shouldn't that be KOnan the Destroyer?

Well played, sir. TP

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Agent has a fiduciary responsibility to get his client the highest value. Obviously, client will be overjoyed to be drafted by a top organization like the Celtics and....oh lookee here, get paid millions and millions of dollars by a top organization.

So Mr. agent? You want your 19 year old client to start next year and get clocked night in and night out? Lose over and over again?

Avery Bradley fought his way onto the team. Learned to play the right way and is now one of the better two's in the league, not to mention probably, one player most coaches want on the court in a playoff game.

Why would an agent want that?

Brown has got a ways to go and he is working with the right people to get him there.

Your client might get traded? What!? Pretty much everybody gets traded.

"We don't want to get traded to the wrong team."

Take your 3% of the mountain of money your client makes and shut up.

Playing time means stats means more money. That's where the agent is coming from. He's worried about the financial aspects of his client's second contract.

That "logic" eludes me. (not yours, the agents').

I'm not great on the CBA and the rookie scale, but first rounders are guaranteed money for 3 years. At the beginning of the third year, I think (like Young this year) the team can either exercise their 4th year option on the player (again a contractually prescribed amount) or allow the player to enter FA (I think, unrestricted) with no rights to him.

By the time any player plays his 3rd or 4th year, he should've had plenty of time to showcase what he can do, especially if he can contribute to a competitive team, unlike ROY MCW, who had great stats on a crappy team. What's his value now? This kind of goes against what these agents (LaVar Ball????) are proffering about the Cs.

I guess that my point is that the NBA has watched players for years and many FOs know players' value by their measurable and the skills that they bring and their projected room for growth.

If a team has kept a player for 4 years (especially a team with the coaching staff and FO like Boston), it would behoove them to develop the player both as a trade asset and a contributor to a competitive team.

Now if someone wants to argue that CBS' system stunts development/future financial potential, then I guess that could be argued, but I don't agree with it.

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Once again, the media finds a way to dream up a negative twist to the Celtics rosy draft position. Cynical, aren't they?

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You guys sound like Sean Hannity.  I doubt the media has it out for the Celtics.  This is just a dumb story filling space on the internet.  The agents can hold their players back from pre-draft visits to the Celtics.  This doesn't sound like a very smart thing to do.  Really bad first impression to make on the NBA.

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Once again, the media finds a way to dream up a negative twist to the Celtics rosy draft position. Cynical, aren't they?

media hate never ends

You guys sound like Sean Hannity.  I doubt the media has it out for the Celtics.  This is just a dumb story filling space on the internet.  The agents can hold their players back from pre-draft visits to the Celtics.  This doesn't sound like a very smart thing to do.  Really bad first impression to make on the NBA.

If it were the Lakers instead of the Celtics in this situation, I doubt we ever see this story. Partly because the media prefers the Lakers, partly because players prefer to play in LA instead of Boston.

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  If Ainge rolls it back with Conan the Destroyer (KO) and Amir and Jerebko, I for one will be disappointed.  I am also of the mindset that KO is not your future starting four.   He is too uneven in performance.

So let's get rid of KO and  Amir. I guess we keep Zeller and Mickey ?

I would love to sign Blake griffin or acquire Marc  Gasol.  Just think it is pretty unrealistic  financially.

I'm fine with keeping KO and Amir as backups. If we can get better bigs in FA that are affordable and who fit our system then I'm all for that. I think we are going to have to settle for whatever Danny  can come up with in FA. Better get used to KO and Amir.

 Be thankful  if we can keep them on team friendly contracts.

We will likely draft a guard or SF  this year if a trade doesn't materialize.  I can hear the complaining alreadty.
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  If Ainge rolls it back with Conan the Destroyer (KO) and Amir and Jerebko, I for one will be disappointed.  I am also of the mindset that KO is not your future starting four.   He is too uneven in performance.

So let's get rid of KO and  Amir. I guess we keep Zeller and Mickey ?

I would love to sign Blake griffin or acquire Marc  Gasol.  Just think it is pretty unrealistic  financially.

I'm fine with keeping KO and Amir as backups. If we can get better bigs in FA that are affordable and who fit our system then I'm all for that. I think we are going to have to settle for whatever Danny  can come up with in FA. Better get used to KO and Amir.

 Be thankful  if we can keep them on team friendly contracts.

Also the Grizz just signed Gasol and Conley long term.  Don't see them trading Gasol away.

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  If Ainge rolls it back with Conan the Destroyer (KO) and Amir and Jerebko, I for one will be disappointed.  I am also of the mindset that KO is not your future starting four.   He is too uneven in performance.

So let's get rid of KO and  Amir. I guess we keep Zeller and Mickey ?

I would love to sign Blake griffin or acquire Marc  Gasol.  Just think it is pretty unrealistic  financially.

I'm fine with keeping KO and Amir as backups. If we can get better bigs in FA that are affordable and who fit our system then I'm all for that. I think we are going to have to settle for whatever Danny  can come up with in FA. Better get used to KO and Amir.

 Be thankful  if we can keep them on team friendly contracts.

Also the Grizz just signed Gasol and Conley long term.  Don't see them trading Gasol away.
The position that we need the most should not be occupied by Amir/KO next year....especially if we strike out on FA's. With the GSW and Cavs being legit contenders for the next 2 years, I'd honestly rather blow the team up, have 2 top picks next year, trade IT/AB instead of letting them walk....