1. That doesn't seem particularly "irate" to me.
2. Why the heck would anyone cheer for Hayward?! Miss Jeff Green much?
Why do you compare him to Jeff Green? Hayward consistently is the offensive creator for the Jazz, Green wasn't consistent doing anything his whole career. Hayward is the type of guy who can get you a bucket in the playoffs when the other team double Isaiah.
Not sold on who he is as a basketball player. Three years ago he couldn't score more than 16 ppg on a team where the other scoring threats were Derrick Favors and Trey Burke. I am also unsure about his defense and about the fact that he has played in more than 78 games once in his career so far.
Right, but unlike Jeff Green he a) makes plays for others, and b) got better after the age of 23. The problem with Jeff Green is that he was essentially the same player at 29 as he was at 23. At 23 he looked like someone with promise. At 29, he's just a guy with a great basketball body that has a good game once every two weeks. Hayward improved his efficiency while taking more shots, and has turned from a 16 point scorer at 23 to a 22 point scorer at 26.
I also think four years ago was a slight aberration due to a new coach. Hayward had his worst shooting percentages and highest assist numbers that year. Hayward led the team at 16 ppg, but they had six players average at least 10 ppg. My guess is distribution came in part due to a first-year coach's strategy.
But even if it was all on Hayward, that's not who he is any more, or has been for multiple seasons, and comparing him to Jeff Green is much lazier than your normal commentary. He got better. Jeff Green did not. There are many other reasons they are different players, but that is the biggest.
The case in point is that improvement notwithstanding, Hayward has mostly been a high-teens scorer on teams where he was pretty much the singular scoring weapon. So if you're happy with throwing a second max contract to what may amount to another "just decent" player, more power to you -- I am not convinced, and I'd like to spend that salary slot on someone who (better) addresses a need.
Yeah, if you don't believe Hayward is going to continue to improve then he's not a good fit at the max.
I probably reacted too strongly to the Green comparison before understanding the way in which you were comparing them. Jeff Green is a trigger phrase for me, because ever since he was on the C's a lot of people on the blog used him to compare to any player that doesn't live up to expectations.
One thing to watch will be the effect of the new CBA on free agency. The CBA made it easier for teams to hang onto their own free agents, so the quality of player you could get in the open market might be diminished. Hayward isn't going to be in the top 10 player in the league class, but I think he's going to be one of the better players to change teams in the next few years (if he leaves).
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