Nerlens - about to be traded?

[The One]

The Philly media/blogosphere is talking about him in the past tense.

There have been mysterious injuries and no-shows to team events.  Also there is a 10/31/16 deadline.

I wonder if the Celtics are involved somehow.

http://www.libertyballers.com/2016/10/18/13307684/nerlens-noel-philadelphia-76ers-joel-embiid-jahlil-okafor-2016-nba-trade-rumors

http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/pattisonave/Smallwood-Why-Nerlens-Noel-should-be-traded-as-quickly-as-possible.html

[Snakehead]

I wonder if the Celtics are involved somehow.

I certainly hope not.  No one dimensional bigs here please.

[Evantime34]

I wonder if the Celtics are involved somehow.

I certainly hope not.  No one dimensional bigs here please.

Come on, it has to depend on what it costs. If we are sending back Young, Hunter and future non Brooklyn pick or two then I'd love to have him on the C's.

[celticsclay]

While I am reluctant to get this into a full blown 8 page discussion of the value of philly's bigs, I will ask do people think there is a lot higher chance Philly would not match an offer for Noel this offseason? It seems like things are getting pretty poisonous between him, the front office and, if it matters, their fans.

[saltlover]

While I am reluctant to get this into a full blown 8 page discussion of the value of philly's bigs, I will ask do people think there is a lot higher chance Philly would not match an offer for Noel this offseason? It seems like things are getting pretty poisonous between him, the front office and, if it matters, their fans.

I have been suggesting for months that Philly needs to trade him because they would be unwise to match next summer, and so probably won't.  And I think that will depress the price they will receive for him.

[Big333223]

I wonder if the Celtics are involved somehow.

I certainly hope not.  No one dimensional bigs here please.

Come on, it has to depend on what it costs. If we are sending back Young, Hunter and future non Brooklyn pick or two then I'd love to have him on the C's.

Noel is limited offensively but defensively he's versatile and does some things that the C's could definitely use, in terms of rim protection. Obviously we want as many shooters are possible but alongside Olynyk or a small ball 4 (like Crowder, Jerebko, or Brown) he could be a pretty devastating pick and roller. You could even play him with Horford, who can shoot from outside and both can guard either big.

At this stage, I can see the C's nabbing him for a collection of players who aren't likely to get time anyway. If that's the case, they should definitely do it.

[LarBrd33]

While I am reluctant to get this into a full blown 8 page discussion of the value of philly's bigs, I will ask do people think there is a lot higher chance Philly would not match an offer for Noel this offseason? It seems like things are getting pretty poisonous between him, the front office and, if it matters, their fans.

I think it was a Zach Lowe prediction column or something that was asking yes/no questions.  One of the questions was whether Philly would match Noel.  The answer was "no".   My guess is the answer is "no", because Noel will no longer be on Philly when it comes time to make that decision.  They'll likely cash in on him before that.

Regardless of how you feel about his trade value, the bottom line is that Noel is far from "worthless" in this league.  So if you know he doesn't factor into your future there, why in the heck would you let him walk for nothing when you could get something for him by the trade deadline.  Makes no sense.

[Snakehead]

I wonder if the Celtics are involved somehow.

I certainly hope not.  No one dimensional bigs here please.

Come on, it has to depend on what it costs. If we are sending back Young, Hunter and future non Brooklyn pick or two then I'd love to have him on the C's.

For that?  Sure, even I would take a one dimensional player like that to be a backup big in our rotation.  But I doubt that gets it done.  He's gone in a year anyways.

[Snakehead]

Obviously we want as many shooters are possible but alongside Olynyk or a small ball 4 (like Crowder, Jerebko, or Brown) he could be a pretty devastating pick and roller.

You have to be able to do anything on offense beside score garbage points to be devastating.  The much dreaded Tyler Zeller is devastating compared to Noel.

[Eddie20]

I wonder if the Celtics are involved somehow.

I certainly hope not.  No one dimensional bigs here please.

Come on, it has to depend on what it costs. If we are sending back Young, Hunter and future non Brooklyn pick or two then I'd love to have him on the C's.

This summer he was almost moved for Teague, who is also expiring, but Teague was ultimately moved for the #12 pick. Considering how events have unfolded with Noel since then and the fact that he's also expiring, I would venture to guess that the most they'd be able to net in return is a lottery (top 14) protected pick.

[celticsclay]

While I am reluctant to get this into a full blown 8 page discussion of the value of philly's bigs, I will ask do people think there is a lot higher chance Philly would not match an offer for Noel this offseason? It seems like things are getting pretty poisonous between him, the front office and, if it matters, their fans.

I think it was a Zach Lowe prediction column or something that was asking yes/no questions.  One of the questions was whether Philly would match Noel.  The answer was "no".   My guess is the answer is "no", because Noel will no longer be on Philly when it comes time to make that decision.  They'll likely cash in on him before that.

Regardless of how you feel about his trade value, the bottom line is that Noel is far from "worthless" in this league.  So if you know he doesn't factor into your future there, why in the heck would you let him walk for nothing when you could get something for him by the trade deadline.  Makes no sense.

I thought it was whether they would offer him an extension and Lowe said no. Is that incorrect? It  also seems really hard to imagine them matching any reasonable offer for Noel if Embiid is healthy because Embiid would be getting a maximum offer the next season.

I don't follow all the philly sites super closely put in the comments section of the philly.com article all the fans just seemed to want him gone and were floating around names like Sam Decker, Larry Nance Jr. or Terrance Ross as potential targets for him (one person suggested smart but seemed doubtful we would do it). That seems like a lot less than was expected about 6 months ago (when it seemed they still thought they could get a top 6 pick for him).

[Eddie20]

I wonder if the Celtics are involved somehow.

I certainly hope not.  No one dimensional bigs here please.

Come on, it has to depend on what it costs. If we are sending back Young, Hunter and future non Brooklyn pick or two then I'd love to have him on the C's.

Noel is limited offensively but defensively he's versatile and does some things that the C's could definitely use, in terms of rim protection. Obviously we want as many shooters are possible but alongside Olynyk or a small ball 4 (like Crowder, Jerebko, or Brown) he could be a pretty devastating pick and roller. You could even play him with Horford, who can shoot from outside and both can guard either big.

The problem with that is that his hands are awful. If his hands were good, like a Howard, Chandler, Drummond, Jordan, etc., he'd be a nice option as a rim runner. But his hands are Perkins level bad. That's something that just doesn't improve. You're either born with them or not.

[Snakehead]

The problem with that is that his hands are awful. If his hands were good, like a Howard, Chandler, Drummond, Jordan, etc., he'd be a nice option as a rim runner. But his hands are Perkins level bad. That's something that just doesn't improve. You're either born with them or not.

Exactly.  He shows zero instinct too.  I don't see improvement ever coming for him.  Those who do are really ignoring reality to me and assuming he will suddenly not only get skills but any offensive feel for the game and yes even hands.

[boscel33]

I wonder if the Celtics are involved somehow.

I certainly hope not.  No one dimensional bigs here please.

Come on, it has to depend on what it costs. If we are sending back Young, Hunter and future non Brooklyn pick or two then I'd love to have him on the C's.

I think it costs us Smart or Rozier, which I still would do, but would lean toward Smart.  I think Rozier is special and Danny saw it.  That's the genius of him.

[alldaboston]

Trade him somewhere else. I don't really want him now, and I DEFINITELY don't want him after this summer when he will most likely demand and receive a max