Sporting News: C's targeting Griffin, will make major deal soon

[Eddie20]

Sean Deveny will be on the Rainin J's pod tonight discussing the Griffin rumors.

[dannyboy35]

Wake up people. Find a legit source before getting excited.

What else are we going to do at this time of year?  Get excited about the MLB All Star break?

I can't get excited about Summer League, that's for sure.

If personally rather watch two old timers play chess in the park than watch any 9 innings of baseball.

[Eddie20]

This is actually kind of irritating to watch spread live.

Idiot on RealGm makes up a rumor... some twitter trolls pile on pretending to have similar information... some obscure blog runs with it... a slightly bigger blog runs with that... some garbage media types who don't vet their sources run with it... other media types quote the garbage media types... suddenly it's appearing on CelticsBlog, Yahoo, Sporting News, etc.   Meanwhile, the idiot who made up the rumor is cackling his head off.   Trust me, I get it... I once made up something that ended up on Good Morning America.  But when you're not in on the joke, it's annoying to watch in real-time.

ANyways, a trade for Blake makes some sense.  Bill Simmons has been calling this the wildcard trade for months.  I'm not surprised this is the fake rumor people are running with.   I wouldn't be entirely shocked if something actually happened.

I wonder how much your thoughts would change if this were the Sixers.  You would go on and on about how Hinkie's plan of tanking/accumulating picks was ingenious.


BTW...Mannix just chimed in so...yeah

There's a difference between Steve Bulpett saying, "According to my sources, the player Danny Ainge was trying to acquire at the deadline was Jahlil Okafor"...

And... "I hear we are going to make a big move... i read it on a website that got it from a blog that got it from a smaller blog that got it from a twitter account that got it from some troll on a realGM forum who made it up as a joke"

No, the difference is that you're overly optimistic on anything Sixers related, even citing Sixers blogs as souces, yet are pessimistic on everything involving the Celtics. Everyone sees it, man. You're a hypocrite in what you choose to believe.

Yeah ok.  If you say so, Ed.

I just tend to give more credit to someone like Steve Bulpett when he claims he has a direct source that tells him something... over some 16 year old fanboy high schooler from Rhode Island who tweets that his "sources" tell him the Celtics are about to sign Durant. 

Some of us have talked about this before.   What makes a "rumor" a "real rumor" verses a "fake rumor".  I guess it's a fine line.  The Steve Bulpett's, Marc Stein and Woj's of the world might be making stuff up entirely.  A lot of the info is fed from other orgs.  Maybe some of it is completely fabricated.   Maybe they are no different than the 16 year old Celtic fanboy sitting on his parent's couch making up stuff on RealGm.   Maybe both rumors deserve the same amount of respect.  Maybe both rumors deserve no respect.   It's been debated before.  I guess it will be debated again. 

Fwiw, Bulpett says:  "Sources indicate the Celtics are very much open to major moves, but while situations certainly remain fluid and they have expressed interest in Blake Griffin and Russell Westbrook in the past, there have been no discussions regarding those players in quite some time."

That's not to say those trades will not still happen.  That's the thing about this league... we can all make educated guesses about which stars might be available.  It doesn't take a rocket surgeon to look at the Bucks roster, see they have multiple SF's and determine they might be open to moving one of Giannis, Parker or Middleton.   Blake's problems have been well documented.  Same with Cousins.  It isn't a massive stretch to imagine one of them being moved.   Everyone knows Philly at some point will move one of those bigs... so I'm sure we'll continue to see rumors about it.  Just like everyone knows Boston is overloaded with redundant players and doesn't have enough roster spots to fit all of them.   You watch Rozier playing well in Summer league and it's not a leap to imagine them moving Marcus Smart for help at a weaker position.   

So I guess you just have to ask what is a rumor.  If you think every rumor regardless of who makes it up deserves the same amount of attention, I don't blame anyone for getting very excited about this weekend.  Personally, I expected nothing to happen until greece666 backed up this rumor.  Now I'm on board.

That's great, but this is from Deveny and now Mannix. Don't you think that's a far cry from random bloggers? The funny thing is that you think they're getting this from the same bloggers you ridicule. Don't you think it's much more likely that they're obtaining this from legitimate enough sources that they feel the need the pass this on?

Imagine if this were the thread title...
Sporting News: Sixers getting Griffin, will make major deal soon

You would be unbearable spewing your pro-Hinkie propaganda

[mef730]

‏@DanLifshatz   
Chris Mannix on CSNNE just said Celtics could make massive deal over weekend

greece666 on the Forums just said Celtics might make a big move in the next few days.

Mannix and Greece666 have the same credentials?

I didn't realize Greece666 is substantiating this rumor.  N/m.   I went from thinking this was 30% likely to 80% likely.   Pre-ordering my Blake Griffin Celtic jersey.

they are not available yet...

Word is that they're not going to produce them until they get rid of all those Westbrook Celtics jerseys that they made yesterday.

Mike

[walker834]

I'm listening to mannix now and he's saying Blake is not available, and the celtics haven't discussed anything.   Says he is skeptical

Mannix is talking out of boths sides of his mouth.

He then goes on that the celtics are being aggressive and are looking to make a deal as early as tomorrow.

Ok now he's saying they may actually be targetting joel embiid or jimmy butler. 

What?

[DefenseWinsChamps]

This is actually kind of irritating to watch spread live.

Idiot on RealGm makes up a rumor... some twitter trolls pile on pretending to have similar information... some obscure blog runs with it... a slightly bigger blog runs with that... some garbage media types who don't vet their sources run with it... other media types quote the garbage media types... suddenly it's appearing on CelticsBlog, Yahoo, Sporting News, etc.   Meanwhile, the idiot who made up the rumor is cackling his head off.   Trust me, I get it... I once made up something that ended up on Good Morning America.  But when you're not in on the joke, it's annoying to watch in real-time.

ANyways, a trade for Blake makes some sense.  Bill Simmons has been calling this the wildcard trade for months.  I'm not surprised this is the fake rumor people are running with.   I wouldn't be entirely shocked if something actually happened.

Just curious. What did you make up that ended up on Good Morning America?

For a couple reasons, I'm not going to detail it out.  I'll just say this.  It was an interesting lesson.

I made up something as a joke (unrelated to basketball) that was semi-plausible... it subsequently got shared by a bunch of people on forum comment threads and comments on articles related to the main topic... eventually, a couple blogs ran with it... then a couple online publications ran with it... culminating in them running a piece on it on Good Morning America... and at no point did anyone actually try to reach out to verify if it was true.  Had they followed the breadcrumbs back to the source, they could have easily come to the conclusion it was made up - but they ran with it anyways.   It was hilarious and surreal to watch in real-time.

I'm not saying that's happening here.  I'm just saying that I saw the RealGM thread when this "Blake Griffin/DeMarcus Cousins" rumor started.  I saw the unverified twitter accounts pile on the idea and pretend their sources were saying the same thing.   So I'm not really putting much weight into this rumor at all. 

Though, I think a lot of it comes down to whether or not you think Smitty on RealGM is full of crap... and whether or not Dan Lifshatz actually has sources.

Maybe it happens.  I'd just suggest not getting your hopes up on this one.

Oh come on. Can't you give us more than that?

[clover]

I'm listening to mannix now and he's saying Blake is not available, and the celtics haven't discussed anything.   Says he is skeptical

Mannix is talking out of boths sides of his mouth.

He then goes on that the celtics are being aggressive and are looking to make a deal as early as tomorrow.

Ok now he's saying they may actually be targetting joel embiid or jimmy butler. 

What?

Mannix is the guy who predicted on Saturday that the C's would re-sign Sully.

[Cman]

I'm listening to mannix now and he's saying Blake is not available, and the celtics haven't discussed anything.   Says he is skeptical

Mannix is talking out of boths sides of his mouth.

He then goes on that the celtics are being aggressive and are looking to make a deal as early as tomorrow.

Ok now he's saying they may actually be targetting joel embiid or jimmy butler. 

What?

Gotta cover all the bases so you"re right!
"Remember when I said the Celtics were in talks for Griffin/Cousins/Westbrook/Hayward/Embiid/Butler/No one? Well I was right!

[celticsclay]

This is actually kind of irritating to watch spread live.

Idiot on RealGm makes up a rumor... some twitter trolls pile on pretending to have similar information... some obscure blog runs with it... a slightly bigger blog runs with that... some garbage media types who don't vet their sources run with it... other media types quote the garbage media types... suddenly it's appearing on CelticsBlog, Yahoo, Sporting News, etc.   Meanwhile, the idiot who made up the rumor is cackling his head off.   Trust me, I get it... I once made up something that ended up on Good Morning America.  But when you're not in on the joke, it's annoying to watch in real-time.

ANyways, a trade for Blake makes some sense.  Bill Simmons has been calling this the wildcard trade for months.  I'm not surprised this is the fake rumor people are running with.   I wouldn't be entirely shocked if something actually happened.

I wonder how much your thoughts would change if this were the Sixers.  You would go on and on about how Hinkie's plan of tanking/accumulating picks was ingenious.


BTW...Mannix just chimed in so...yeah

There's a difference between Steve Bulpett saying, "According to my sources, the player Danny Ainge was trying to acquire at the deadline was Jahlil Okafor"...

And... "I hear we are going to make a big move... i read it on a website that got it from a blog that got it from a smaller blog that got it from a twitter account that got it from some troll on a realGM forum who made it up as a joke"

No, the difference is that you're overly optimistic on anything Sixers related, even citing Sixers blogs as souces, yet are pessimistic on everything involving the Celtics. Everyone sees it, man. You're a hypocrite in what you choose to believe.

Yeah ok.  If you say so, Ed.

I just tend to give more credit to someone like Steve Bulpett when he claims he has a direct source that tells him something... over some 16 year old fanboy high schooler from Rhode Island who tweets that his "sources" tell him the Celtics are about to sign Durant. 

Some of us have talked about this before.   What makes a "rumor" a "real rumor" verses a "fake rumor".  I guess it's a fine line.  The Steve Bulpett's, Marc Stein and Woj's of the world might be making stuff up entirely.  A lot of the info is fed from other orgs.  Maybe some of it is completely fabricated.   Maybe they are no different than the 16 year old Celtic fanboy sitting on his parent's couch making up stuff on RealGm.   Maybe both rumors deserve the same amount of respect.  Maybe both rumors deserve no respect.   It's been debated before.  I guess it will be debated again. 

Fwiw, Bulpett says:  "Sources indicate the Celtics are very much open to major moves, but while situations certainly remain fluid and they have expressed interest in Blake Griffin and Russell Westbrook in the past, there have been no discussions regarding those players in quite some time."

That's not to say those trades will not still happen.  That's the thing about this league... we can all make educated guesses about which stars might be available.  It doesn't take a rocket surgeon to look at the Bucks roster, see they have multiple SF's and determine they might be open to moving one of Giannis, Parker or Middleton.   Blake's problems have been well documented.  Same with Cousins.  It isn't a massive stretch to imagine one of them being moved.   Everyone knows Philly at some point will move one of those bigs... so I'm sure we'll continue to see rumors about it.  Just like everyone knows Boston is overloaded with redundant players and doesn't have enough roster spots to fit all of them.   You watch Rozier playing well in Summer league and it's not a leap to imagine them moving Marcus Smart for help at a weaker position.   

So I guess you just have to ask what is a rumor.  If you think every rumor regardless of who makes it up deserves the same amount of attention, I don't blame anyone for getting very excited about this weekend.  Personally, I expected nothing to happen until greece666 backed up this rumor.  Now I'm on board.

That's great, but this is from Deveny and now Mannix. Don't you think that's a far cry from random bloggers? The funny thing is that you think they're getting this from the same bloggers you ridicule. Don't you think it's much more likely that they're obtaining this from legitimate enough sources that they feel the need the pass this on?

Imagine if this were the thread title...
Sporting News: Sixers getting Griffin, will make major deal soon

You would be unbearable spewing your pro-Hinkie propaganda

I do agree that LardBrd would definitely be sharing the link rather than disparaging if sporting news ran a headline about the 76ers getting Blake.  I also believe Larbrd is just trying to protect himself from getting let down, so can't really fault him.

[walker834]

I'm listening to mannix now and he's saying Blake is not available, and the celtics haven't discussed anything.   Says he is skeptical

Mannix is talking out of boths sides of his mouth.

He then goes on that the celtics are being aggressive and are looking to make a deal as early as tomorrow.

Ok now he's saying they may actually be targetting joel embiid or jimmy butler. 

What?

Gotta cover all the bases so you"re right!
"Remember when I said the Celtics were in talks for Griffin/Cousins/Westbrook/Hayward/Embiid/Butler/No one? Well I was right!

I don't know what he was doing.  I'm not sure he did either.  I didn't hear him on earlier.  He was just on though and said that.

[WolfofCausewayStreet]

Its none of them guys!








Via the process of elimination, its Anthony Davis and Kawhi Leonard!

Lets get the party started.

[jpotter33]

http://redsarmy.com/2016/07/14/mannix-shoots-down-griffin-report-brings-up-butlers-name-again/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+RedsArmy+%28Red%27s+Army%3A+The+Voice+Of+Celtics+Fans%29

[Jon Niednagel]

This is actually kind of irritating to watch spread live.

Idiot on RealGm makes up a rumor... some twitter trolls pile on pretending to have similar information... some obscure blog runs with it... a slightly bigger blog runs with that... some garbage media types who don't vet their sources run with it... other media types quote the garbage media types... suddenly it's appearing on CelticsBlog, Yahoo, Sporting News, etc.   Meanwhile, the idiot who made up the rumor is cackling his head off.   Trust me, I get it... I once made up something that ended up on Good Morning America.  But when you're not in on the joke, it's annoying to watch in real-time.

ANyways, a trade for Blake makes some sense.  Bill Simmons has been calling this the wildcard trade for months.  I'm not surprised this is the rumor people are running with.   I wouldn't be entirely shocked if something actually happened.

Wait, what happened here? lol

Remind me to tell that story on my deathbed. 

Can't wait that long. This sounds like a great story. Please do share!

[kozlodoev]

In the meanwhile in the realm of real trade rumors, the Sox are acquiring Drew Pomeranz.

[alldaboston]

Sean Deveny will be on the Rainin J's pod tonight discussing the Griffin rumors.

Wait actually? That's pretty cool. We can get some clarity.