POLL: Is Blake Griffin worth giving up Lottery Picks and 1 or 2 Core Players?

[CoachBo]

Athleticism waning at 27.

LOL.

[jpotter33]

Help me out here. Doesn't Blake play the exact same position as Horford . . . the 4? I get that Horford will move to the 5 alot but these guys are not nearly as complimentary as KD & Horford.

https://clipperholics.com/2016/07/12/clippers-rumors-celtics-still-interested-in-blake-griffin-trade/

He has dunked so many times, I'm thinking he could be toast by 30 or 31 like Amare was. Unlikely to age well.

That said, you could talk me into an overpay of ....  1 BK pick, 1 Boston pick, 2 seconds, Avery, Zeller, Jackson. I'll throw in Gerald Green too .

That gives them 4 picks, and depth at 1, 2, 3 and 5. Doc desperately needs draft picks and solid bench guys to replenish his squad.

No, Horford has been a center his entire career. He can play the 4 in certain lineups or with certain players at the 5 (I think Cousins is one of those players), but he's mainly a 5.

[RJ87]

Athleticism waning at 27.

LOL.

I've seen it all. He's a fringe All-Star, he's overrated. It makes me wonder if people have actually watched him play an actual game or just his highlight dunks on youtube. Zach Lowe wrote an interesting article about this exact scenario in January (he thinks we should deal Avery+Crowder+a BKN 1st). It's a good read: http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/14669764/blake-griffin-tenure-los-angeles-become-questions-hour

[Bobshot]

If Ainge wants a "star", he has to realize it's a seller's market--there aren't many stars. That means he has to make offers teams with stars will seriously consider. With his stable of middling talent supported by good coaching, I doubt he can attract a star without giving up what other teams covet the most--his high draft picks.

Take a look at Brown at #3, and ask yourself if you'd rather have him than a Westbrook or a Griffin or a Cousins. Sure Brown may turn out to be pretty good, but he's going to have to improve his shooting to be an elite player. And even then, there's no guarantee.

I'd rather have the established star. The known quantity. The draft is a crapshoot--actually a double crapshoot. First the lottery, then the pick. A 19yo raw kid, usually, these days.

A bit like prospects in baseball. Keep 'em or trade 'em for established stars? You win some, you lose some. With an established player, you win.

[Vermont Green]

The Boston Celtics could build an offer that appears to help the Clippers in both the short and long term: Avery Bradley, Jae Crowder, one big man and two first-round picks -- including one of Brooklyn's unprotected picks.

Actually Lowe said Bradley, Crowder, A Big Man, and Two First Rounders.  That seems like too much.  Tough to give up both Bradley and Crowder but I understand that is probably what it takes.  Not sure who the big man would be since we don't have Sullinger or Zeller (or do we still have Zeller?).  Two picks maybe assuming one is BKN and the other is a much lower value pick.

That would certainly qualify as fireworks but I don't know.  Seems like a lot for an injury prone guy.

[D Dub]

Athleticism waning at 27.

LOL.

Right?  age 27 is when athleticism and preparation finally meet. 

That said, he has done well to add the outside jumper to his game over the last couple years.  Will be good at spreading the floor for the rest of his career. 

I wouldn't want to lose 2 of our 3 pitbulls, along with the picks --- but all things considered, we can certainly afford to with guys like Rozier, RJ, Mickey, Brown, Jerebko et al waiting in the wings. 

[Bobshot]

Not without Blake at least picking up his player option. One core player, one pick, a few bits and pieces.

Mike

Good point. Probably what's holding up this deal. That option determines Griffin's value in a trade.

The other thing that concerns me is his medicals. Seems like a risk there.

[moiso]

Athleticism waning at 27.

LOL.

Right?  age 27 is when athleticism and preparation finally meet. 

That said, he has done well to add the outside jumper to his game over the last couple years.  Will be good at spreading the floor for the rest of his career. 

I wouldn't want to lose 2 of our 3 pitbulls, along with the picks --- but all things considered, we can certainly afford to with guys like Rozier, RJ, Mickey, Brown, Jerebko et al waiting in the wings.

Antoine seemed to lose his legs at 27.  Griffin is still an absolute freak though.

[Eja117]

Since the only lottery picks we have are the Brooklyn picks the question means...Is Griffin worth both Brooklyn picks and 1 or 2 core players (presumably Crowder, Brown, Smart, or Bradley)

Given that is the question I think one of the answers should be "Are you insane?"

Another could be "Sure. And lets also send IT and Horford and kick in a million bucks!"

[CelticSooner]

I wouldn't give up the farm for him. He's the third piece more so than the 1st or 2nd. Cousins I would probably give up both picks for tho.

[BigDogPitbull]

I don't really trust Danny enough to draft good players with lottery picks but I do trust him when he makes trades.  Griffin is better than anyone we have on the team right now.  Horford is 30.  Can't really wait around for draft picks to develop.

[CelticSooner]

I don't really trust Danny enough to draft good players with lottery picks but I do trust him when he makes trades.  Griffin is better than anyone we have on the team right now.  Horford is 30.  Can't really wait around for draft picks to develop.

Actually we can. C's can do a lot of things. Still need that go to scorer to win a title.

[walker834]

I am not huge on Blake but yes.  I would give up guys that we can replace though.  Crowder and other guys are replaceable.  Some aren't.

A lot of our rookies are depth where we can replace certain guys.  Others not so much.

I'd rather wait it out  though.  But Blake in and of himself is worth that.  I wouldn't be in any rush to pull the trigger on a blake griffin deal.

[PaulP34]

Absolutely not

[dannyboy35]

So if we made this trade.. As is, we're starting who? It, smart( yuck) ,brown( yuck) Griffin, and Horford? I think this team loses more regular season games but who knows. Stars shine often during playoffs. But wow, we seem really weak at 2 and 3. Two flat out BAD shooters.