Give up both Nets picks for Cousins

[Moranis]

If you look at the Kings, they have no direction. They keep Boogie and they'll still be really bad. Why not trade a disgruntled Cousins and grab low draft picks, along with the low draft pick that they'll end up with. The Cs got most to offer for the Kings.

don't they have a pick swap with the Sixers?

But here's the thing, if you think they are going to be bad anyway, why not keep the best (or 2nd best) center in basketball.

[acieEarl]

Keep him for a couple years and lose him for nothing? Cousins wants out and if they're worst than last year (most likely) Boogie is not going want to play and be a pain in the side for the Kings. Cash in now and a solid player and draft picks. His value only goes down by holding on to him for another year.

If you look at the Kings, they have no direction. They keep Boogie and they'll still be really bad. Why not trade a disgruntled Cousins and grab low draft picks, along with the low draft pick that they'll end up with. The Cs got most to offer for the Kings.

don't they have a pick swap with the Sixers?

But here's the thing, if you think they are going to be bad anyway, why not keep the best (or 2nd best) center in basketball.

[jpotter33]

Any Cousins deal starts with both Brooklyn picks. Remember how steep the price was for two well past prime players like Garnett and Pierce. I'm guessing:

We offer 2 picks plus Crowder.

They demand 2 picks plus Crowder and Bradley.

The final compromise is 2 picks plus Crowder and Rozier.

Though I'd much rather trade Bradley, Brown, or Smart than Crowder (due to being so thin at the 3), if it only cost the Brooklyn picks, Crowder, and Rozier and we could get someone like Boogie and Collison back in return, then you I think you ultimately have to do that.

[Moranis]

Keep him for a couple years and lose him for nothing? Cousins wants out and if they're worst than last year (most likely) Boogie is not going want to play and be a pain in the side for the Kings. Cash in now and a solid player and draft picks. His value only goes down by holding on to him for another year.

If you look at the Kings, they have no direction. They keep Boogie and they'll still be really bad. Why not trade a disgruntled Cousins and grab low draft picks, along with the low draft pick that they'll end up with. The Cs got most to offer for the Kings.

don't they have a pick swap with the Sixers?

But here's the thing, if you think they are going to be bad anyway, why not keep the best (or 2nd best) center in basketball.

I can certainly see that, but Boogie would give up a ton of money to leave Sacto and by all accounts he does actually like it there.  Doesn't mean he won't leave at some point.

If Sacto gets a good enough offer I'm sure they would trade him, I just wouldn't be looking to do so if I was them. 

[jpotter33]

Think to get Cousins right now you need Smart, Brown, AJ, and Nets 2018. Kings like Brown and Smart a lot. Cs team is left with 2017 Nets pick at least. Still feel C's willing to only give up the two Nets picks Rozier, Hunter and AJ right now. Kings should hold out for Smart and Brown over the picks IMO as they could still help fill stands with their hustle and highlights even as young players. Remember its a buisness. Them next to all the young bigs seems like a great future core.

Do you have a source regarding them loving Brown and Smart? I haven't heard that.

I can't imagine most people here would have a problem with Amir, Smart, Brown, and the 2018 Brooklyn pick for something like Boogie and Mcelmore. I'm a huge Smart guy, but that's a great deal for us, especially keeping the 2017 pick and our starting lineup.

[Csfan1984]

Think to get Cousins right now you need Smart, Brown, AJ, and Nets 2018. Kings like Brown and Smart a lot. Cs team is left with 2017 Nets pick at least. Still feel C's willing to only give up the two Nets picks Rozier, Hunter and AJ right now. Kings should hold out for Smart and Brown over the picks IMO as they could still help fill stands with their hustle and highlights even as young players. Remember its a buisness. Them next to all the young bigs seems like a great future core.

Do you have a source regarding them loving Brown and Smart? I haven't heard that.

I can't imagine most people here would have a problem with Amir, Smart, Brown, and the 2018 Brooklyn pick for something like Boogie and Mcelmore. I'm a huge Smart guy, but that's a great deal for us, especially keeping the 2017 pick and our starting lineup.

I don't have a link but it's not a secret. Kings war room special they did talked a lot about Smart. Then Kings had reps at a lot of Cal games to see Brown this year. Then you see who exactly Kings worked out this year and it points to them seeing enough and only wanting one guy if slipped to them Brown.

[Ogaju]

Any Cousins deal starts with both Brooklyn picks. Remember how steep the price was for two well past prime players like Garnett and Pierce. I'm guessing:

We offer 2 picks plus Crowder.

They demand 2 picks plus Crowder and Bradley.

The final compromise is 2 picks plus Crowder and Rozier.

This is not to say that the price for Cousins won't be steep, but all picks are not created equally. I am sure BKN assumed they would be competitive for longer - not just with Pierce and KG, but also by bringing in other players. I don't think anybody in the BKN organization thought that those picks had top 10 potential - never mind top 5 - at the time of the deal.

It should also be noted that we did take on what was considered the worst contract in the league at the time in Gerald Wallace.

that's an excellent point that's commonly overlooked.  Brooklyn gave up that many picks with the thought they'd be a very good team for several years, not a broken franchise looking at being the worst team in the league for several years.  Also taking on Wallace was part of that deal.  Brooklyn in no way, shape or form thought they'd be giving up picks of that value or they wouldn't have made that deal.

it kills me when I see people so ready to use them as trade chips thinking we got 3 for KG and PP so it'd take that same amount to get a top young player.  The market at that time, in Brooklyn's mind, was 4 non-lottery (and likely in the 20's for some) picks for KG, PP and unloading Wallace.

At the time, Pierce and Garnett were declining top 50-100 players. Cousins is a top 5- 10 player in the prime of his career, the most valuable type of NBA asset and the kind of player that is rarely on the market. IMO both Brooklyn picks are a given in any deal for Cousins.

You do not give your good fortune away because you were lucky enough to hit the fortune. Being fortunate does not increase the market value of tradable players. The value of a player is determined by the market and not by the wealth of the suitor.

No way should we trade two BKN picks for anybody.

[Bobshot]

What do you give up for a 900 lb gorilla? Just about anything it takes--within reason. Danny will not give up his house.

[Ogaju]

What do you give up for a 900 lb gorilla? Just about anything it takes--within reason. Danny will not give up his house.

gorilla?

[SHAQATTACK]

Where do I sign ?