Sullinger to the Raptors? (EDIT: Confirmed by Woj/1-yr deal)

[RJ87]

Remember when everyone was all excited Jared was working with John Lucas last offseason?

“I told him, ‘People don’t trust you, and you want to be trusted. You have to give them something to trust you. You have to give them a reason to trust you. You’ve almost got to let them know,’” said Lucas, who recently was hired by the Rockets as head of player development.

“I called him when the season ended, and he said, ‘Coach, I don’t know if I can do all that work again like that.’ And I said, ‘It’s the only way you’re going to make it.’”

http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/celtics/2016/07/ex_coach_jared_sullinger_must_give_teams_more_reasons_to_trust_him

Would you give that guy more than 1 year?

[LooseCannon]

Anyone buy stock in Tim Hortons?

[dreamgreen]

Remember when everyone was all excited Jared was working with John Lucas last offseason?

“I told him, ‘People don’t trust you, and you want to be trusted. You have to give them something to trust you. You have to give them a reason to trust you. You’ve almost got to let them know,’” said Lucas, who recently was hired by the Rockets as head of player development.

“I called him when the season ended, and he said, ‘Coach, I don’t know if I can do all that work again like that.’ And I said, ‘It’s the only way you’re going to make it.’”

http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/celtics/2016/07/ex_coach_jared_sullinger_must_give_teams_more_reasons_to_trust_him

Would you give that guy more than 1 year?

Makes me want to throw up, glad to see that fat Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline. go!!

[PhoSita]

Remember when everyone was all excited Jared was working with John Lucas last offseason?

“I told him, ‘People don’t trust you, and you want to be trusted. You have to give them something to trust you. You have to give them a reason to trust you. You’ve almost got to let them know,’” said Lucas, who recently was hired by the Rockets as head of player development.

“I called him when the season ended, and he said, ‘Coach, I don’t know if I can do all that work again like that.’ And I said, ‘It’s the only way you’re going to make it.’”

http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/celtics/2016/07/ex_coach_jared_sullinger_must_give_teams_more_reasons_to_trust_him

Would you give that guy more than 1 year?

Yup.  That's the money quote.

[kozlodoev]

Remember when everyone was all excited Jared was working with John Lucas last offseason?

“I told him, ‘People don’t trust you, and you want to be trusted. You have to give them something to trust you. You have to give them a reason to trust you. You’ve almost got to let them know,’” said Lucas, who recently was hired by the Rockets as head of player development.

“I called him when the season ended, and he said, ‘Coach, I don’t know if I can do all that work again like that.’ And I said, ‘It’s the only way you’re going to make it.’”

http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/celtics/2016/07/ex_coach_jared_sullinger_must_give_teams_more_reasons_to_trust_him

Would you give that guy more than 1 year?

Jared Sullinger seems to not understand that staying in shape is not some sort of chore that you have to do (again!), but part of your job description when you're a professional athlete. It's unfortunate because he has talent, and by all accounts is a nice guy.

[Lucky17]

The question for me has been why Ainge elected to let Sullinger, and not Zeller, walk, without recouping something. The limitations on a potential sign and trade explain that partially: Sullinger would not have accepted a new deal less than three years in length, and so there was no real reason to keep Sully's QO over Zeller's.

I could list a multitude of reasons on Ainge choose Zeller over Sullinger.   But I am not going to as a lot of people are using this thread to celebrate his contributions and using this to vent.

 I would ask you if you thought Sullinger maximized his potential while here?   Was he reliable and dependable throughout the year?   Answer those honestly and look at game played and performances through out the seasons and you will have your answers.

Well, you'll be happy to know I'm not one of those people. I'm not the least bit broken up that Sully is moving on. I've not come to praise him.

Again, I'm just trying to connect the dots: why it was Sully's QO (not Zeller's) that was rescinded, and he was allowed to walk, and less than 24 hours later, he's signing what seems like a below-market deal with TOR.

Knowing that a sign and trade option may NOT have been on the table makes me feel better about the situation.

As for your questions, well, TOR didn't seem to care much about the answers to those. They wanted him.

[PhoSita]

Remember when everyone was all excited Jared was working with John Lucas last offseason?

“I told him, ‘People don’t trust you, and you want to be trusted. You have to give them something to trust you. You have to give them a reason to trust you. You’ve almost got to let them know,’” said Lucas, who recently was hired by the Rockets as head of player development.

“I called him when the season ended, and he said, ‘Coach, I don’t know if I can do all that work again like that.’ And I said, ‘It’s the only way you’re going to make it.’”

http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/celtics/2016/07/ex_coach_jared_sullinger_must_give_teams_more_reasons_to_trust_him

Would you give that guy more than 1 year?

Jared Sullinger seems to not understand that staying in shape is not some sort of chore that you have to do (again!), but part of your job description when you're a professional athlete. It's unfortunate because he has talent, and by all accounts is a nice guy.

It's a lifestyle.

Jared should spend some time with Dwayne Johnson (The Rock).  Listen to how that guy spends his day (or read the 538 article about it).

If your job requires you to maximize your physical potential, it has to be an every single day thing.

[Beat LA]

This deal makes no sense, to me.  Why sign Sully when you just drafted Poeltl and Siakam?

[wiley]

This deal makes no sense, to me.  Why sign Sully when you just drafted Poeltl and Siakam?

You just solved the Lathsfatz thread...we're trading for Valunciaunas!  Good job! 
(two misspelled names in one sentence unless I got lucky).

[RJ87]

Remember when everyone was all excited Jared was working with John Lucas last offseason?

“I told him, ‘People don’t trust you, and you want to be trusted. You have to give them something to trust you. You have to give them a reason to trust you. You’ve almost got to let them know,’” said Lucas, who recently was hired by the Rockets as head of player development.

“I called him when the season ended, and he said, ‘Coach, I don’t know if I can do all that work again like that.’ And I said, ‘It’s the only way you’re going to make it.’”

http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/celtics/2016/07/ex_coach_jared_sullinger_must_give_teams_more_reasons_to_trust_him

Would you give that guy more than 1 year?

Yup.  That's the money quote.

Give him a multi-year deal and he'll go Michael Sweetney on you.

[sdceltsfan]

I find it interesting that, with so much cap space, we found no need to offer Sully a 1-year deal for this amount?

Must mean we are keeping a roster space open for a big trade. Sully is for sure more of a contributor then any big/forward we just drafted.

It's gotta mean that there's something in the works, because we would have matched or beat that offer, no doubt!

[Beat LA]

This deal makes no sense, to me.  Why sign Sully when you just drafted Poeltl and Siakam?

You just solved the Lathsfatz thread...we're trading for Valunciaunas!  Good job! 
(two misspelled names in one sentence unless I got lucky).

Lol, what is the 'Lathsfatz' thread?  I'm afraid I'm quite late to the party, on this one, haha.

[saltlover]

This deal makes no sense, to me.  Why sign Sully when you just drafted Poeltl and Siakam?

You just solved the Lathsfatz thread...we're trading for Valunciaunas!  Good job! 
(two misspelled names in one sentence unless I got lucky).

Lol, what is the 'Lathsfatz' thread?  I'm afraid I'm quite late to the party, on this one, haha.

Lifshatz

[saltlover]

I find it interesting that, with so much cap space, we found no need to offer Sully a 1-year deal for this amount?

Must mean we are keeping a roster space open for a big trade. Sully is for sure more of a contributor then any big/forward we just drafted.

It's gotta mean that there's something in the works, because we would have matched or beat that offer, no doubt!

We didn't have "that much" cap space.  We renounced Sullinger to make room for Horford, because we didn't have the cap space for Horford otherwise.  We could have renounced Zeller instead, but we aren't swimming in cap space.

Also, as already mentioned, if we made the same offer Toronto did, Sullinger would have had no-trade rights, because the CBA has a weird clause.  Toronto has no such restriction.

[D Dub]

Lucas made another point about he perhaps being glutton intolerant or something. 

That makes some sense.   Hard to figure how you put all the weight back on during the regular season.   I have a cousin who dropped a ton of weight after learning of a glutton issue.   Considering how modified the wheat genome is these days.  Did glutton free even exist in the 80's?  Now a days you can even get glutton free beer... Something happening there.