Sullinger to the Raptors? (EDIT: Confirmed by Woj/1-yr deal)

[Vermont Green]

Somewhat disappointing but understandable.  He is a decent player but replaceable.  He may turn out to be a serviceable PF if he can control his weight but we need the roster spot for more promising players.  We kind of traded Sullinger and Turner for Horford (the money ends up really close).  I am OK with that trade.  No hard feeling for either Turner or Sullinger.  Enjoyed watching both.

[mctyson]

That is weird for even 6mil we didn't want him. Something else has gotta be falling.

We had to renounce his cap hold to sign Al Horford and maintain max cap space.  Once he was unrestricted there was no way he was coming back.

[Lucky17]

on a serious note - good for sully! Happy that he's found a home in Toronto (if this is true). Wishing you all the best up North.

It's not a home yet, just a landing spot, but yeah good for him.

Guess I'm not all that savvy with trades, but why couldn't we have done a S&T and gotten some assets back?

Raptors probably could absorb the contract without making room. And we renounced him, so he was an UFA when he signed.

I mean, before we renounced him.  I guess this speaks to Sully's perceived value around the league.

A sign-and-trade requires a minimum deal of three years.  My guess is that Sully wants to hit the market again as an unrestricted free agent next year.

Aha. This might also speak to why Ainge elected to keep Zeller's QO -- if Sully wouldn't agree to a new three-year deal, but Zeller might?

[RJ87]

My guess is that Sully wants to hit the market again as an unrestricted free agent next year.

Seems like a big risk for a guy who's only cracked 60 games played twice in his 4 year career.

[hwangjini_1]

i may be mistaken, but i believe there are now only 2 guys left who were on the roster 3 years ago when CBS was hired as coach. amazing.

[saltlover]

i may be mistaken, but i believe there are now only 2 guys left who were on the roster 3 years ago when CBS was hired as coach. amazing.

I think just Bradley, technically.  Olynyk had been drafted, but hadn't signed his contract yet.

[hwangjini_1]

i may be mistaken, but i believe there are now only 2 guys left who were on the roster 3 years ago when CBS was hired as coach. amazing.

I think just Bradley, technically.  Olynyk had been drafted, but hadn't signed his contract yet.

okay, i'm even more amazed. 

[fairweatherfan]

Put another way, Bradley's the only guy on the team who's played with any of the Big 3.

[Celtics4ever]

Aha. This might also speak to why Ainge elected to keep Zeller's QO -- if Sully wouldn't agree to a new three-year deal, but Zeller might?

I think your fooling yourself, if you think Ainge wanted to keep him.   He had every chance to do so and did not.   In the past two years there were incidents where either he got injured or declined during the season, Zeller is not the better player, but you can count on him to last the season and be ready when called upon.

I think this is a clear case of caveat emptor and not caveat venditor for us.   I suspected him not to get a huge contract because I have never thought he was valued as much the fans here thought.   I have a big advantage in that regard,  I live in Cincinnati, outside the market.  I watch my games on league pass and hear other teams input.

Good luck to him, as long he is not playing us.

[Lucky17]

Aha. This might also speak to why Ainge elected to keep Zeller's QO -- if Sully wouldn't agree to a new three-year deal, but Zeller might?

I think your fooling yourself, if you think Ainge wanted to keep him.   He had every chance to do so and did not.   In the past two years there were incidents where either he got injured or declined during the season, Zeller is not the better player, but you can count on him to last the season and be ready when called upon.

I think this is a clear case of caveat emptor and not caveat venditor for us.   I suspected him not to get a huge contract because I have never thought he was valued as much the fans here thought.   I have a big advantage in that regard,  I live in Cincinnati, outside the market.  I watch my games on league pass and hear other teams input.

Good luck to him, as long he is not playing us.

I'm not.

The question for me has been why Ainge elected to let Sullinger, and not Zeller, walk, without recouping something. The limitations on a potential sign and trade explain that partially: Sullinger would not have accepted a new deal less than three years in length, and so there was no real reason to keep Sully's QO over Zeller's.

[elcotte]

Aha. This might also speak to why Ainge elected to keep Zeller's QO -- if Sully wouldn't agree to a new three-year deal, but Zeller might?

I think your fooling yourself, if you think Ainge wanted to keep him.   He had every chance to do so and did not.   In the past two years there were incidents where either he got injured or declined during the season, Zeller is not the better player, but you can count on him to last the season and be ready when called upon.

I think this is a clear case of caveat emptor and not caveat venditor for us.   I suspected him not to get a huge contract because I have never thought he was valued as much the fans here thought.   I have a big advantage in that regard,  I live in Cincinnati, outside the market.  I watch my games on league pass and hear other teams input.

Good luck to him, as long he is not playing us.

I'm not.

The question for me has been why Ainge elected to let Sullinger, and not Zeller, walk, without recouping something. The limitations on a potential sign and trade explain that partially: Sullinger would not have accepted a new deal less than three years in length, and so there was no real reason to keep Sully's QO over Zeller's.

Which means there was no market for him either in Boston or elsewhere.

[saltlover]

on a serious note - good for sully! Happy that he's found a home in Toronto (if this is true). Wishing you all the best up North.

It's not a home yet, just a landing spot, but yeah good for him.

Guess I'm not all that savvy with trades, but why couldn't we have done a S&T and gotten some assets back?

Raptors probably could absorb the contract without making room. And we renounced him, so he was an UFA when he signed.

I mean, before we renounced him.  I guess this speaks to Sully's perceived value around the league.

A sign-and-trade requires a minimum deal of three years.  My guess is that Sully wants to hit the market again as an unrestricted free agent next year.

Aha. This might also speak to why Ainge elected to keep Zeller's QO -- if Sully wouldn't agree to a new three-year deal, but Zeller might?

It's not impossible.  I think the more likely reason is that Zeller is more likely to accept the QO.  I don't expect either to be on the team or used in a sign-and-trade, however, so why one was rescinded before the other is probably just academic.

[CelticSooner]

Sully didn't want to hurt his "value" coming off the bench and the C's didn't want him back in anything other than depth. That's the way I see it.

[Celtics4ever]

The question for me has been why Ainge elected to let Sullinger, and not Zeller, walk, without recouping something. The limitations on a potential sign and trade explain that partially: Sullinger would not have accepted a new deal less than three years in length, and so there was no real reason to keep Sully's QO over Zeller's.

I could list a multitude of reasons on Ainge choose Zeller over Sullinger.   But I am not going to as a lot of people are using this thread to celebrate his contributions and using this to vent.

 I would ask you if you thought Sullinger maximized his potential while here?   Was he reliable and dependable throughout the year?   Answer those honestly and look at game played and performances through out the seasons and you will have your answers.

[2short]

Wish him luck.  Don't see him being missed at all.  Hope for his sake he is in great shape.  The lack of foot speed and his height don't bode well for him as backup center or power forward in the new look nba.
That said kind of excited to have his 23 mpg be spread between a healthy Kelly and Amir.  New guy Horford, Zeller and a few minutes for a kid or two.