The wild overvaluing of the third pick in a two person draft - and pretty much every other Celtic asset no one wants - is one of my favorite laughs from this board.
Ought to rename it Comedy Central.
That comment would have been received better a few days ago.
About a week ago, Noel was rumored to be going WITH pieces to Atlanta for Teauge, who last night was traded for a late lottery pick. In the past 24 hours weve seen it reported that we have standing offers of Noel and Okafor for 3, and just now, a solid but unspectacular player on a good contract was just traded for the 20th pick in the draft basically suggesting that draft picks have good value. Now, Givony from DX, who I trust a decent amount has also tweeted that Noels value lies in that of a late lotter pick. Furthermore everyone is talking about how from 3-8 no one knows whatll happen which devalues pick 3 a bit, but it also means that there is a seperate 3-8 tier far more valuable than the 9-whatever tier which Noel seems to be valued in.
Basically, everything weve seen suggests that the 3rd pick in a 2-player draft is in fact pretty valuable.
I refer mostly to the inane comments in these threads suggesting that neither Noel and Okafor are worth a lottery pick. That is jump-the-shark style ridiculous.
And it shocks me not to see questionable sources suddenly trusted - when they tell you what you want to hear.
Either make the Celtics significantly better than they are at the moment, and refusal to trade the 3 for one of them is the kind of neanderthal thinking that will keep this franchise mired in mediocrity forever.
The draft is hardly the be-all and end-all of how the Celtics get better, and statements like the above remind me of the ill-informed tantrums thrown here when Al Jefferson, along with a bag of Ainge's trash, were traded for Kevin Garnett.
No it is not the end all be all, that is true. Also true is the fact that plenty of people here over value pick #3.
but the thinking that Jahlil Okafor makes us instantly better or significantly better isn't true. He is the exact opposite of everything needed from a starting big in order to be a championship contender in today's NBA. He plays no defense, has no range, clogs the lane, and isn't an effective rebounder. He quite literally is Al Jefferson, but with even less defense, if you can imagine that. The same Al Jefferson that in his prime this year, was on a team that made it no further than we did. And that was on a team that had the one quality you NEED in bunches in order to stomach having that sort of player at Center - tons of perimeter shooters; of which the Celtics have very few.
You say that Okafor is worth the #3 pick. On paper I think that's a fair argument. But in reality, when it comes to on court production, I would argue fiercely that trading for Okafor does FAR more in terms of us staying at and competing for mediocrity than either keeping the pick or going a different route would. And it isn't close.