Stein- Philly ramping up efforts for #3

[chambers]

Noel for #16+Rozier is the most we'll pay.

Those saying Noel for #3 need to put the pipe down.

[jpotter33]

Noel for #16+Rozier is the most we'll pay.

Those saying Noel for #3 need to put the pipe down.

Hmm, I wonder if they value Rozier that much.

If you could get Noel for that, it's an absolute steal. I'd imagine that they'd just deal with one of the other top-8 to try and get one of the other non-Dunn guards, though.

[jpotter33]

it better be with another first rounder and saric coming back cause noel is hot garbage and doesn't do crap for the celtics.

Other than him making us the best defensive team in the league, I agree with you. 

While making us the worst offensive team in the league.

How will replacing Amir with Noel make us any worse of an offensive team? Noel would probably score even more than Amir due purely to his athleticism/ability to put more junk in around the basket.

[Dino Pitino]

Are there any players on our roster Philly would turn their nose up at? Wouldn't every single Celtic reserve probably have seen consistent minutes on the Sixers? Are there any picks in the Celtics' vault that the Sixers would not like to use on a flyer?

[CoachBo]

The wild overvaluing of the third pick in a two person draft - and pretty much every other Celtic asset no one wants - is one of my favorite laughs from this board.

Ought to rename it Comedy Central.

[kozlodoev]

it better be with another first rounder and saric coming back cause noel is hot garbage and doesn't do crap for the celtics.

Other than him making us the best defensive team in the league, I agree with you. 

While making us the worst offensive team in the league.

How will replacing Amir with Noel make us any worse of an offensive team? Noel would probably score even more than Amir due purely to his athleticism/ability to put more junk in around the basket.

Outside shooting and passing ability.

[jpotter33]

it better be with another first rounder and saric coming back cause noel is hot garbage and doesn't do crap for the celtics.

Other than him making us the best defensive team in the league, I agree with you. 

While making us the worst offensive team in the league.

How will replacing Amir with Noel make us any worse of an offensive team? Noel would probably score even more than Amir due purely to his athleticism/ability to put more junk in around the basket.

Outside shooting and passing ability.

What outside shooting are you talking about? Perhaps you didn't watch this past year, but Amir has no outside shooting anymore. After about ten games in, he stopped shooting the three because A) it took him an hour to get it off, and B) he sucked at it. He averaged 0.1 made threes a game on 0.5 attempts a game at .315%. We're not losing anything with his outside shooting. He didn't even provide spacing, because everyone knew they could stay in the paint and get to Amir before he'd even get the shot off with how slow his release is.

EDIT: His last made three pointer - March 31st. Before that - January 18th, January 10th, December 16th, December 5th, November 30th, November 13th, October 30th, and October 28th. So he made a three in 9 out of 82 games. Yeah, I don't think we're missing much there. 

[GratefulCs]

The wild overvaluing of the third pick in a two person draft - and pretty much every other Celtic asset no one wants - is one of my favorite laughs from this board.

Ought to rename it Comedy Central.

look at what teague just fetched


I think you might be undervaluing it

[Ilikesports17]

The wild overvaluing of the third pick in a two person draft - and pretty much every other Celtic asset no one wants - is one of my favorite laughs from this board.

Ought to rename it Comedy Central.

That comment would have been received better a few days ago.

About a week ago, Noel was rumored to be going WITH pieces to Atlanta for Teauge, who last night was traded for a late lottery pick. In the past 24 hours weve seen it reported that we have standing offers of Noel and Okafor for 3, and just now, a solid but unspectacular player on a good contract was just traded for the 20th pick in the draft basically suggesting that draft picks have good value. Now, Givony from DX, who I trust a decent amount has also tweeted that Noels value lies in that of a late lotter pick. Furthermore everyone is talking about how from 3-8 no one knows whatll happen which devalues pick 3 a bit, but it also means that there is a seperate 3-8 tier far more valuable than the 9-whatever tier which Noel seems to be valued in.

Basically, everything weve seen suggests that the 3rd pick in a 2-player draft is in fact pretty valuable.

[Ilikesports17]

it better be with another first rounder and saric coming back cause noel is hot garbage and doesn't do crap for the celtics.

Other than him making us the best defensive team in the league, I agree with you. 

While making us the worst offensive team in the league.

How will replacing Amir with Noel make us any worse of an offensive team? Noel would probably score even more than Amir due purely to his athleticism/ability to put more junk in around the basket.

Outside shooting and passing ability.

What outside shooting are you talking about? Perhaps you didn't watch this past year, but Amir has no outside shooting anymore. After about ten games in, he stopped shooting the three because A) it took him an hour to get it off, and B) he sucked at it. He averaged 0.1 made threes a game on 0.5 attempts a game at .315%. We're not losing anything with his outside shooting. He didn't even provide spacing, because everyone knew they could stay in the paint and get to Amir before he'd even get the shot off with how slow his release is.

When healthy, amir offered some post scoring Noel wont offer. I hadnt noticed Amir's passing but Ill give the benefit of the doubt.

those are the two things Amir give you that Noel does not.

[kozlodoev]

it better be with another first rounder and saric coming back cause noel is hot garbage and doesn't do crap for the celtics.

Other than him making us the best defensive team in the league, I agree with you. 

While making us the worst offensive team in the league.

How will replacing Amir with Noel make us any worse of an offensive team? Noel would probably score even more than Amir due purely to his athleticism/ability to put more junk in around the basket.

Outside shooting and passing ability.

What outside shooting are you talking about? Perhaps you didn't watch this past year, but Amir has no outside shooting anymore. After about ten games in, he stopped shooting the three because A) it took him an hour to get it off, and B) he sucked at it. He averaged 0.1 made threes a game on 0.5 attempts a game at .315%. We're not losing anything with his outside shooting. He didn't even provide spacing, because everyone knew they could stay in the paint and get to Amir before he'd even get the shot off with how slow his release is.

EDIT: His last made three pointer - March 31st. Before that - January 18th, January 10th, December 16th, December 5th, November 30th, November 13th, October 30th, and October 28th. So he made a three in 9 out of 82 games. Yeah, I don't think we're missing much there. 

He took 10.1% of his shots from three, which is the second largest percentage in his career (the top was 2 years ago, 10.8%).

[Dino Pitino]

it better be with another first rounder and saric coming back cause noel is hot garbage and doesn't do crap for the celtics.

Other than him making us the best defensive team in the league, I agree with you. 

While making us the worst offensive team in the league.

How will replacing Amir with Noel make us any worse of an offensive team? Noel would probably score even more than Amir due purely to his athleticism/ability to put more junk in around the basket.

Outside shooting and passing ability.

What outside shooting are you talking about? Perhaps you didn't watch this past year, but Amir has no outside shooting anymore. After about ten games in, he stopped shooting the three because A) it took him an hour to get it off, and B) he sucked at it. He averaged 0.1 made threes a game on 0.5 attempts a game at .315%. We're not losing anything with his outside shooting. He didn't even provide spacing, because everyone knew they could stay in the paint and get to Amir before he'd even get the shot off with how slow his release is.

When healthy, amir offered some post scoring Noel wont offer. I hadnt noticed Amir's passing but Ill give the benefit of the doubt.

those are the two things Amir give you that Noel does not.

Dude, if you think Noel does not offer passing ability, then you clearly have either not watched or are not remembering correctly any significant amount of Noel game footage. He's a very good passer, much better than Amir.

[jpotter33]

it better be with another first rounder and saric coming back cause noel is hot garbage and doesn't do crap for the celtics.

Other than him making us the best defensive team in the league, I agree with you. 

While making us the worst offensive team in the league.

How will replacing Amir with Noel make us any worse of an offensive team? Noel would probably score even more than Amir due purely to his athleticism/ability to put more junk in around the basket.

Outside shooting and passing ability.

What outside shooting are you talking about? Perhaps you didn't watch this past year, but Amir has no outside shooting anymore. After about ten games in, he stopped shooting the three because A) it took him an hour to get it off, and B) he sucked at it. He averaged 0.1 made threes a game on 0.5 attempts a game at .315%. We're not losing anything with his outside shooting. He didn't even provide spacing, because everyone knew they could stay in the paint and get to Amir before he'd even get the shot off with how slow his release is.

EDIT: His last made three pointer - March 31st. Before that - January 18th, January 10th, December 16th, December 5th, November 30th, November 13th, October 30th, and October 28th. So he made a three in 9 out of 82 games. Yeah, I don't think we're missing much there. 

He took 10.1% of his shots from three, which is the second largest percentage in his career (the top was 2 years ago, 10.8%).

He also took the lowest amount of attempts this year since 2011-2012 and his second lowest attempts per game since 2010. Just because he shoots a three every other game and makes less than one-third of those does not mean he's really providing any value to us with his shooting, not to mention the fact that it took him an hour to get off his shot, which further led to him not providing any spacing along with Sully.

[jpotter33]

it better be with another first rounder and saric coming back cause noel is hot garbage and doesn't do crap for the celtics.

Other than him making us the best defensive team in the league, I agree with you. 

While making us the worst offensive team in the league.

How will replacing Amir with Noel make us any worse of an offensive team? Noel would probably score even more than Amir due purely to his athleticism/ability to put more junk in around the basket.

Outside shooting and passing ability.

What outside shooting are you talking about? Perhaps you didn't watch this past year, but Amir has no outside shooting anymore. After about ten games in, he stopped shooting the three because A) it took him an hour to get it off, and B) he sucked at it. He averaged 0.1 made threes a game on 0.5 attempts a game at .315%. We're not losing anything with his outside shooting. He didn't even provide spacing, because everyone knew they could stay in the paint and get to Amir before he'd even get the shot off with how slow his release is.

When healthy, amir offered some post scoring Noel wont offer. I hadnt noticed Amir's passing but Ill give the benefit of the doubt.

those are the two things Amir give you that Noel does not.

I think Noel's athleticism would allow him to put more garbage/junk back than Amir, equaling out any more offense Amir would've provided. I will give him that he provides passing that Noel doesn't, but we're not talking about Kevin Love-level passing here either.

I think Noel's added athleticism, rim-protection, rebounding, and perimeter D will more than makeup for what Amir did this past year, which doesn't even mention the fact that Amir is almost certainly on the downward spiral where Noel is still years from his ceiling and prime.

[jpotter33]

I'm already having issues with the servers. It's going to be a frustrating night trying to access Celticsblog, especially at draft time.