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Re: Stein- Philly ramping up efforts for #3
« Reply #150 on: June 23, 2016, 03:09:12 PM »

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it better be with another first rounder and saric coming back cause noel is hot garbage and doesn't do crap for the celtics.

Other than him making us the best defensive team in the league, I agree with you.  ;)

While making us the worst offensive team in the league.

How will replacing Amir with Noel make us any worse of an offensive team? Noel would probably score even more than Amir due purely to his athleticism/ability to put more junk in around the basket.
Outside shooting and passing ability.

What outside shooting are you talking about? Perhaps you didn't watch this past year, but Amir has no outside shooting anymore. After about ten games in, he stopped shooting the three because A) it took him an hour to get it off, and B) he sucked at it. He averaged 0.1 made threes a game on 0.5 attempts a game at .315%. We're not losing anything with his outside shooting. He didn't even provide spacing, because everyone knew they could stay in the paint and get to Amir before he'd even get the shot off with how slow his release is.
When healthy, amir offered some post scoring Noel wont offer. I hadnt noticed Amir's passing but Ill give the benefit of the doubt.

those are the two things Amir give you that Noel does not.

Dude, if you think Noel does not offer passing ability, then you clearly have either not watched or are not remembering correctly any significant amount of Noel game footage. He's a very good passer, much better than Amir.
Ive never Notivce Noels passing

Career 1.8 APG. Tell me more about his passing? That's not even sarcasm, I want to know.

It's the quality not the quantity. You gotta see full games and focus on him (which I wound up doing a few more times than normal because I've been rooting for us to trade for him for a while) to notice that some of those assists are eyepoppingly good, even if there are only 2 per night. (Realize, he's on the Sixers, you know?) Here's a taste.

https://youtu.be/_yuHeE44QLs

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Re: Stein- Philly ramping up efforts for #3
« Reply #151 on: June 23, 2016, 03:12:17 PM »

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The wild overvaluing of the third pick in a two person draft - and pretty much every other Celtic asset no one wants - is one of my favorite laughs from this board.

Ought to rename it Comedy Central.
That comment would have been received better a few days ago.

About a week ago, Noel was rumored to be going WITH pieces to Atlanta for Teauge, who last night was traded for a late lottery pick. In the past 24 hours weve seen it reported that we have standing offers of Noel and Okafor for 3, and just now, a solid but unspectacular player on a good contract was just traded for the 20th pick in the draft basically suggesting that draft picks have good value. Now, Givony from DX, who I trust a decent amount has also tweeted that Noels value lies in that of a late lotter pick. Furthermore everyone is talking about how from 3-8 no one knows whatll happen which devalues pick 3 a bit, but it also means that there is a seperate 3-8 tier far more valuable than the 9-whatever tier which Noel seems to be valued in.

Basically, everything weve seen suggests that the 3rd pick in a 2-player draft is in fact pretty valuable.

I refer mostly to the inane comments in these threads suggesting that neither Noel and Okafor are worth a lottery pick. That is jump-the-shark style ridiculous.

And it shocks me not to see questionable sources suddenly trusted - when they tell you what you want to hear.

Either make the Celtics significantly better than they are at the moment, and refusal to trade the 3 for one of them is the kind of neanderthal thinking that will keep this franchise mired in mediocrity forever.

The draft is hardly the be-all and end-all of how the Celtics get better, and statements like the above remind me of the ill-informed tantrums thrown here when Al Jefferson, along with a bag of Ainge's trash, were traded for Kevin Garnett.
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Re: Stein- Philly ramping up efforts for #3
« Reply #152 on: June 23, 2016, 03:28:08 PM »

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C's have a standing offer for okafor, but want more
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CelticsBlog: per @chadfordinsider the Celtics have a standing offer from the Sixers: Okafor for the #3 – so far C’s “want more” 39 mins ago – via Twitter

Re: Stein- Philly ramping up efforts for #3
« Reply #153 on: June 23, 2016, 03:35:29 PM »

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C's have a standing offer for okafor, but want more
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CelticsBlog: per @chadfordinsider the Celtics have a standing offer from the Sixers: Okafor for the #3 – so far C’s “want more” 39 mins ago – via Twitter

Good.

Re: Stein- Philly ramping up efforts for #3
« Reply #154 on: June 23, 2016, 03:38:48 PM »

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Sources - Philly is aggressively trying to trade Nerlens Noel for Boston's next 7 first rounders.
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Re: Stein- Philly ramping up efforts for #3
« Reply #155 on: June 23, 2016, 03:41:55 PM »

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C's have a standing offer for okafor, but want more
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CelticsBlog: per @chadfordinsider the Celtics have a standing offer from the Sixers: Okafor for the #3 – so far C’s “want more” 39 mins ago – via Twitter
This was out there as early as yesterday. I don't think there would be much in terms of a sweetener here, and both teams are posturing right now.
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Re: Stein- Philly ramping up efforts for #3
« Reply #156 on: June 23, 2016, 04:27:58 PM »

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"Sources: Sixers have had significant engagement w/ Boston (3), Minnesota (5) Sacramento (8) in past 24 hours. Boston talks continuing now."
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Re: Stein- Philly ramping up efforts for #3
« Reply #157 on: June 23, 2016, 04:40:51 PM »

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"Sources: Sixers have had significant engagement w/ Boston (3), Minnesota (5) Sacramento (8) in past 24 hours. Boston talks continuing now."
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Okafor and 2017 Lakers pick for 3. Fleece em Danny!

Re: Stein- Philly ramping up efforts for #3
« Reply #158 on: June 23, 2016, 04:45:43 PM »

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Sources: Philadelphia 76ers are shopping Nerlens Noel and picks No. 24 and 26 to teams with picks in the top eight selections. #NBADraft

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We better not take this. I don't want picks 23,24,and 26, let alone Noel.
I could very well see the Hawks... starting Taurean Prince at the 3, who is already better than Crowder, imo.

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Re: Stein- Philly ramping up efforts for #3
« Reply #159 on: June 23, 2016, 04:46:22 PM »

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Also, some of y'all need to acquaint yourself with what Noel looks like when he's confident on offense. I mean, if you're gonna say "Amir when healthy", then Nerlens when confident is a fair comparison. I'd rather have had the latter on this year's team. Even more so on next year's team.

I loved Perk on the Celtics, so I say this in love, but if Stonehands Slowgather was good enough to start on a title team, so is Nerlens Noel.

TP for Stonehands Slowgather, first of his name, breaker of toes, father of fumbles...

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Also, some of y'all need to acquaint yourself with what Noel looks like when he's confident on offense. I mean, if you're gonna say "Amir when healthy", then Nerlens when confident is a fair comparison. I'd rather have had the latter on this year's team. Even more so on next year's team.

I loved Perk on the Celtics, so I say this in love, but if Stonehands Slowgather was good enough to start on a title team, so is Nerlens Noel.
Yup, good enough when the other starters are mostly HOF players.

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Re: Stein- Philly ramping up efforts for #3
« Reply #160 on: June 23, 2016, 04:49:15 PM »

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Sources: Philadelphia 76ers are shopping Nerlens Noel and picks No. 24 and 26 to teams with picks in the top eight selections. #NBADraft

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We better not take this. I don't want picks 23,24,and 26, let alone Noel.

Top 8 huh? Are we sure Philly really wants Dunn? They may just want a guard period.

Re: Stein- Philly ramping up efforts for #3
« Reply #161 on: June 23, 2016, 04:50:18 PM »

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Sources: Philadelphia 76ers are shopping Nerlens Noel and picks No. 24 and 26 to teams with picks in the top eight selections. #NBADraft

-@MikeAScotto

We better not take this. I don't want picks 23,24,and 26, let alone Noel.

Top 8 huh? Are we sure Philly really wants Dunn? They may just want a guard period.

Maybe they've stopped negotiating with us. Danny might be hard balling too much or something
I could very well see the Hawks... starting Taurean Prince at the 3, who is already better than Crowder, imo.

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Re: Stein- Philly ramping up efforts for #3
« Reply #162 on: June 23, 2016, 04:50:37 PM »

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Sources: Philadelphia 76ers are shopping Nerlens Noel and picks No. 24 and 26 to teams with picks in the top eight selections. #NBADraft

-@MikeAScotto

We better not take this. I don't want picks 23,24,and 26, let alone Noel.

I'd do that for the 16th pick. Philly is losing leverage every second with the Teague and Young trades.

I think this was a smokescreen.

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« Reply #163 on: June 23, 2016, 04:50:51 PM »

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Also, some of y'all need to acquaint yourself with what Noel looks like when he's confident on offense. I mean, if you're gonna say "Amir when healthy", then Nerlens when confident is a fair comparison. I'd rather have had the latter on this year's team. Even more so on next year's team.

I loved Perk on the Celtics, so I say this in love, but if Stonehands Slowgather was good enough to start on a title team, so is Nerlens Noel.

TP for Stonehands Slowgather, first of his name, breaker of toes, father of fumbles...

Gracias.

Also, some of y'all need to acquaint yourself with what Noel looks like when he's confident on offense. I mean, if you're gonna say "Amir when healthy", then Nerlens when confident is a fair comparison. I'd rather have had the latter on this year's team. Even more so on next year's team.

I loved Perk on the Celtics, so I say this in love, but if Stonehands Slowgather was good enough to start on a title team, so is Nerlens Noel.
Yup, good enough when the other starters are mostly HOF players.

True enough.

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Re: Stein- Philly ramping up efforts for #3
« Reply #164 on: June 23, 2016, 04:52:40 PM »

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If they're offering 24, 26, and Noel to other teams with later picks, I'd imagine we'd demand more.