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Offline CelticsFanFromNYC

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With all the talk about this years pick, I was pondering bout next years.  Last year the bottom four teams in the East were Philly, Brooklyn, Newyork, Milwaukee. West was La, Phoenix, Minnesota, Neworleans.

Doesn't seem like many teams are going in with a tanking mentality unless Simmons makes no significant difference. Every team seems 2-3 assets ahead of Brooklyn while already factoring in Lopez and Young. I know teams break down as the season goes and will eventually inherit a tanking mentality but wouldn't Brooklyn be too deep in at that point? Seems like  almost every team is midwway through a rebuild and the ones who aren't  can't afford to lose in possibility of losing their franchise players.

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I think we really could have a #1 pick. Or at least the best odds, seeing as how we don't have good lottery luck. But, yes there's a good chance. We would be wise to keep the rights to swap.
I could very well see the Hawks... starting Taurean Prince at the 3, who is already better than Crowder, imo.

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If Jimmy goes chicago could bottom out, if they lose Derozan and Biyombo I could see them doing something similar(but any team with Valunciunas and Lowry is better than Brooklyn). Memphis could trade Gasol and bottom out. Brooklyn could overpay for some OK players like Harrison Barnes and Brandon Jennings. RHJ and McCullough could turn into something. Dallas loses Dirk and Parsons they could bottom out. Philly will have more talent next year, but if they roll out a roster of 21 year olds they are going to suck (see Minnesota).

That swap is exciting, but its too early to start projecting it as the #1 pick.

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Offline CelticsFanFromNYC

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If Jimmy goes chicago could bottom out, if they lose Derozan and Biyombo I could see them doing something similar(but any team with Valunciunas and Lowry is better than Brooklyn). Memphis could trade Gasol and bottom out. Brooklyn could overpay for some OK players like Harrison Barnes and Brandon Jennings. RHJ and McCullough could turn into something. Dallas loses Dirk and Parsons they could bottom out. Philly will have more talent next year, but if they roll out a roster of 21 year olds they are going to suck (see Minnesota).

That swap is exciting, but its too early to start projecting it as the #1 pick.

Great poiints.. Dirk might have a farewell tour similar to Kobe's if he stays on Dallas. Didnt even think bout that.
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Sure, we'll probably have a shot.  But it's all about how the ping pongs fall.

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If brooklyn gets best odds, the odds are slim that the worst team gets #1 pick 3 years in a row.

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If brooklyn gets best odds, the odds are slim that the worst team gets #1 pick 3 years in a row.

25% regardless of what happened the last two years.  Didn't you study probability in HS?  ;)

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If brooklyn gets best odds, the odds are slim that the worst team gets #1 pick 3 years in a row.

25% regardless of what happened the last two years.  Didn't you study probability in HS?  ;)

The chance of the same event (with 1/4, or 25% odds) occurring three times in a row is 1/4^3, or 1.5625%.

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If brooklyn gets best odds, the odds are slim that the worst team gets #1 pick 3 years in a row.

25% regardless of what happened the last two years.  Didn't you study probability in HS?  ;)

The chance of the same event (with 1/4, or 25% odds) occurring three times in a row is 1/4^3, or 1.5625%.

The odds are still 25% of the top seed getting the top pick next season.

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If brooklyn gets best odds, the odds are slim that the worst team gets #1 pick 3 years in a row.

25% regardless of what happened the last two years.  Didn't you study probability in HS?  ;)

The chance of the same event (with 1/4, or 25% odds) occurring three times in a row is 1/4^3, or 1.5625%.

Go to Vegas. Bet the opposite color every time at the roulette table. After all, there's only a 1/2^2 or 25% chance that it'll be the same color twice in a row. You'll be a millionaire in under an hour.

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If brooklyn gets best odds, the odds are slim that the worst team gets #1 pick 3 years in a row.

Unless you're the Cavs ;).

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If brooklyn gets best odds, the odds are slim that the worst team gets #1 pick 3 years in a row.

25% regardless of what happened the last two years.  Didn't you study probability in HS?  ;)

The chance of the same event (with 1/4, or 25% odds) occurring three times in a row is 1/4^3, or 1.5625%.

That's probably the same chance that the only car Lebron owns and drives is that kia from the commercial, lol.
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It's a wait-n-see what Brooklyn are doing type thing. If Danny gets wind of Brooklyn landing a big name, then he has about 20 minutes to move that pick!
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If brooklyn gets best odds, the odds are slim that the worst team gets #1 pick 3 years in a row.

25% regardless of what happened the last two years.  Didn't you study probability in HS?  ;)

The chance of the same event (with 1/4, or 25% odds) occurring three times in a row is 1/4^3, or 1.5625%.

Go to Vegas. Bet the opposite color every time at the roulette table. After all, there's only a 1/2^2 or 25% chance that it'll be the same color twice in a row. You'll be a millionaire in under an hour.

I challenge you to do the converse: go to Vegas and bet the same color every round of roulette. After all, the odds are 50/50 every time the wheel is spun. You should break even and have killed a few hours by having a good time and attracting quite the following.

EDIT: if my up-too-late mental math is correct, the top odds in the NBA lottery winning three years in a row would be the equivalent of rolling the same color in roulette six consecutive times.
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If brooklyn gets best odds, the odds are slim that the worst team gets #1 pick 3 years in a row.

25% regardless of what happened the last two years.  Didn't you study probability in HS?  ;)

The chance of the same event (with 1/4, or 25% odds) occurring three times in a row is 1/4^3, or 1.5625%.

Given that the first two events have ALREADY happened the odds of the top pick going to the top seed is still 25%. Basic stuff.