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Re: Brown coming in for a 2nd workout
« Reply #30 on: June 18, 2016, 07:19:40 PM »

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Might be a Smart situation or to check out his shooting another time.
Yeah. Apparently he shot really well with us. Maybe they're gonna see if it was a fluke or if he's actually showing signs of improvement.
I could very well see the Hawks... starting Taurean Prince at the 3, who is already better than Crowder, imo.

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Re: Brown coming in for a 2nd workout
« Reply #31 on: June 18, 2016, 07:34:09 PM »

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Idk, I'm starting to get a little turned off by Brown again. When I watch him I don't see a basketball player. I see an athlete. He doesn't have much skill, gets by largely due to his athleticism. Can he become more than that, can he become an NBA player? I'm not sure.

I'm starting to like Dunn and Hield more and More
I could very well see the Hawks... starting Taurean Prince at the 3, who is already better than Crowder, imo.

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Re: Brown coming in for a 2nd workout
« Reply #32 on: June 18, 2016, 07:34:22 PM »

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Might be a Smart situation or to check out his shooting another time.
Yeah. Apparently he shot really well with us. Maybe they're gonna see if it was a fluke or if he's actually showing signs of improvement.

Well, their evaluation of Smart's shooting after his second workout wasn't exactly accurate, so why would they think this time with Brown will be different?

Re: Brown coming in for a 2nd workout
« Reply #33 on: June 18, 2016, 07:39:51 PM »

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By all reports this guy can't and doesn't know how to play basketball  This is the big draft pick?  Yikes.  Trade it.

Re: Brown coming in for a 2nd workout
« Reply #34 on: June 18, 2016, 07:41:45 PM »

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Speaking of Brown, How many good shooters have the Celtics taken in the first round of the draft over the past 10 years? I am struggling to find one. Sully doesn't count. Dare I say Green in 2007 who we traded for Ray Allen?

One day it would be nice for us to find an end of the game shooter who can actually help us win in crunch time. I am definitely not in the I hope the Celtics draft Brown category and he suddenly discovers how to shoot better.

He shot 65% from the FT last year and had a .43% FG percentage and to top it off, he was under 30% from 3..Oh Joy....Sure doesn't sound like pick 3 material..I would rather take a chance on someone with a bit more upside on the offensive end or at least someone who can put the ball in the basket. It took Avery years before he improved his shooting and many of us fans did not believe that day would ever come. Great to hear that Brown was so impressive in his first workout but we have a whole year of college to analyze on how he did.

Defense is great for our team but we actually need to get the ball in the basket more than our competition in the playoffs. I dread the idea of improving our defense even further with no improvement on the offensive side of things. Since Brown cannot shoot as of right now, I would imagine Danny is salivating...ugh....Dont do it Danny...

It's always my biggest worry in terms of Ainge's draft style. Brown fits it to a tee.

Re: Brown coming in for a 2nd workout
« Reply #35 on: June 18, 2016, 07:44:59 PM »

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Let's also keep in mind that a second visit is not the same as being picked in the draft. It could very well mean a team has questions or doubts.

It is not unusual for teams in the high lottery for a player who the team isn't sold on but want to find out more.

Last year for example the Lakers brought back both Okafor and Mudiay for a second workout and obviously they drafted neither.
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Re: Brown coming in for a 2nd workout
« Reply #36 on: June 18, 2016, 07:45:05 PM »

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By all reports this guy can't and doesn't know how to play basketball  This is the big draft pick?  Yikes.  Trade it.

In all fairness, Bradley looked like he had no clue how to play basketball his first few seasons here, and he turned out well. It took a while though, and I believe Brown/Bender/Chriss would each take several years to even look useful on the court if we take any one of them.

Then again, Ainge also drafted several guys who really did have no clue how to play and never developed, like Fab Melo, James Young, JR Giddens, and everyone's favorite, Marcus Banks.

Re: Brown coming in for a 2nd workout
« Reply #37 on: June 18, 2016, 08:00:52 PM »

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By all reports this guy can't and doesn't know how to play basketball  This is the big draft pick?  Yikes.  Trade it.

In all fairness, Bradley looked like he had no clue how to play basketball his first few seasons here, and he turned out well. It took a while though, and I believe Brown/Bender/Chriss would each take several years to even look useful on the court if we take any one of them.

Bradley was a late pick and turned out as high level role player.   Pretty good, but has never learned how to make a play with the ball.  Expect more from pick 3.  The ability to learn and work to be elite from a low base is questionable.   Elite players seem to always have the feel for the game.  Maybe Brown does have it and the reports where wrong.

Re: Brown coming in for a 2nd workout
« Reply #38 on: June 18, 2016, 08:10:50 PM »

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Speaking of Brown, How many good shooters have the Celtics taken in the first round of the draft over the past 10 years? I am struggling to find one. Sully doesn't count. Dare I say Green in 2007 who we traded for Ray Allen?

One day it would be nice for us to find an end of the game shooter who can actually help us win in crunch time. I am definitely not in the I hope the Celtics draft Brown category and he suddenly discovers how to shoot better.

He shot 65% from the FT last year and had a .43% FG percentage and to top it off, he was under 30% from 3..Oh Joy....Sure doesn't sound like pick 3 material..I would rather take a chance on someone with a bit more upside on the offensive end or at least someone who can put the ball in the basket. It took Avery years before he improved his shooting and many of us fans did not believe that day would ever come. Great to hear that Brown was so impressive in his first workout but we have a whole year of college to analyze on how he did.

Defense is great for our team but we actually need to get the ball in the basket more than our competition in the playoffs. I dread the idea of improving our defense even further with no improvement on the offensive side of things. Since Brown cannot shoot as of right now, I would imagine Danny is salivating...ugh....Dont do it Danny...

Spot. On. TP.

Danny is also salivating because Brown has good character or something too. smh
I could very well see the Hawks... starting Taurean Prince at the 3, who is already better than Crowder, imo.

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Re: Brown coming in for a 2nd workout
« Reply #39 on: June 18, 2016, 08:12:25 PM »

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By all reports this guy can't and doesn't know how to play basketball  This is the big draft pick?  Yikes.  Trade it.

In all fairness, Bradley looked like he had no clue how to play basketball his first few seasons here, and he turned out well. It took a while though, and I believe Brown/Bender/Chriss would each take several years to even look useful on the court if we take any one of them.

Bradley was a late pick and turned out as high level role player.   Pretty good, but has never learned how to make a play with the ball.  Expect more from pick 3.  The ability to learn and work to be elite from a low base is questionable.   Elite players seem to always have the feel for the game.  Maybe Brown does have it and the reports where wrong.

Yeah. This is the best pick we've had in a long time. The best piece from the Pierce deal. We've been waiting for this pick all season. Now that it's here and we have the chance, let's go for more than a high level role player.

Avery is a fine basketball player but if this pick become the equivalent of the level of player Avery is, then I'll be disappointed.
I could very well see the Hawks... starting Taurean Prince at the 3, who is already better than Crowder, imo.

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Re: Brown coming in for a 2nd workout
« Reply #40 on: June 18, 2016, 08:13:43 PM »

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Speaking of Brown, How many good shooters have the Celtics taken in the first round of the draft over the past 10 years? I am struggling to find one. Sully doesn't count. Dare I say Green in 2007 who we traded for Ray Allen?

One day it would be nice for us to find an end of the game shooter who can actually help us win in crunch time. I am definitely not in the I hope the Celtics draft Brown category and he suddenly discovers how to shoot better.

He shot 65% from the FT last year and had a .43% FG percentage and to top it off, he was under 30% from 3..Oh Joy....Sure doesn't sound like pick 3 material..I would rather take a chance on someone with a bit more upside on the offensive end or at least someone who can put the ball in the basket. It took Avery years before he improved his shooting and many of us fans did not believe that day would ever come. Great to hear that Brown was so impressive in his first workout but we have a whole year of college to analyze on how he did.

Defense is great for our team but we actually need to get the ball in the basket more than our competition in the playoffs. I dread the idea of improving our defense even further with no improvement on the offensive side of things. Since Brown cannot shoot as of right now, I would imagine Danny is salivating...ugh....Dont do it Danny...
We drafted KO, RJ, and Young as shooters

Re: Brown coming in for a 2nd workout
« Reply #41 on: June 18, 2016, 08:15:54 PM »

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By all reports this guy can't and doesn't know how to play basketball  This is the big draft pick?  Yikes.  Trade it.

In all fairness, Bradley looked like he had no clue how to play basketball his first few seasons here, and he turned out well. It took a while though, and I believe Brown/Bender/Chriss would each take several years to even look useful on the court if we take any one of them.

Bradley was a late pick and turned out as high level role player.   Pretty good, but has never learned how to make a play with the ball.  Expect more from pick 3.  The ability to learn and work to be elite from a low base is questionable.   Elite players seem to always have the feel for the game.  Maybe Brown does have it and the reports where wrong.

Yeah. This is the best pick we've had in a long time. The best piece from the Pierce deal. We've been waiting for this pick all season. Now that it's here and we have the chance, let's go for more than a high level role player.

Avery is a fine basketball player but if this pick become the equivalent of the level of player Avery is, then I'll be disappointed.

Yeah, if our two Nets picks so far turn out to be James Young who is almost out of the league already, and Jaylen Brown who becomes a role player, then we're halfway to blowing the Nets trade completely.

Re: Brown coming in for a 2nd workout
« Reply #42 on: June 18, 2016, 08:54:42 PM »

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Speaking of Brown, How many good shooters have the Celtics taken in the first round of the draft over the past 10 years? I am struggling to find one. Sully doesn't count. Dare I say Green in 2007 who we traded for Ray Allen?

One day it would be nice for us to find an end of the game shooter who can actually help us win in crunch time. I am definitely not in the I hope the Celtics draft Brown category and he suddenly discovers how to shoot better.

He shot 65% from the FT last year and had a .43% FG percentage and to top it off, he was under 30% from 3..Oh Joy....Sure doesn't sound like pick 3 material..I would rather take a chance on someone with a bit more upside on the offensive end or at least someone who can put the ball in the basket. It took Avery years before he improved his shooting and many of us fans did not believe that day would ever come. Great to hear that Brown was so impressive in his first workout but we have a whole year of college to analyze on how he did.


As a freshman of similar age to Brown, Paul Pierce shot 42% from the field, 31% from 3pt and 61% from FT.

He averaged 12 pts, 5 reb and 2 ast in 25mpg.

Brown averaged 15pts, 5 reb and 3 ast in 28mpg. Slightly lower blocks and steals than Pierce.

Not saying Brown will be Pierce, but the improvement is in the realm of possibility given how young Brown is. And Pierce was one of the better end-of-game shooters in the league at his peak, as we all know.


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« Reply #43 on: June 18, 2016, 09:09:21 PM »

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 Pierce also avg 1.7spg and .8 blocks next year, and his 3p% also skyrocketed to  .465% sophmore year.
 No way Brown improves like that.

Re: Brown coming in for a 2nd workout
« Reply #44 on: June 18, 2016, 09:37:44 PM »

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By all reports this guy can't and doesn't know how to play basketball  This is the big draft pick?  Yikes.  Trade it.

In all fairness, Bradley looked like he had no clue how to play basketball his first few seasons here, and he turned out well. It took a while though, and I believe Brown/Bender/Chriss would each take several years to even look useful on the court if we take any one of them.

Bradley was a late pick and turned out as high level role player.   Pretty good, but has never learned how to make a play with the ball.  Expect more from pick 3.  The ability to learn and work to be elite from a low base is questionable.   Elite players seem to always have the feel for the game.  Maybe Brown does have it and the reports where wrong.

Yeah. This is the best pick we've had in a long time. The best piece from the Pierce deal. We've been waiting for this pick all season. Now that it's here and we have the chance, let's go for more than a high level role player.

Avery is a fine basketball player but if this pick become the equivalent of the level of player Avery is, then I'll be disappointed.

Yeah, if our two Nets picks so far turn out to be James Young who is almost out of the league already, and Jaylen Brown who becomes a role player, then we're halfway to blowing the Nets trade completely.

thats what im scared of. what if danny whiffs on all the picks? given the types of guys he likes to draft (hint: non shooters), i could certainly see it as a possibility.
I could very well see the Hawks... starting Taurean Prince at the 3, who is already better than Crowder, imo.

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