With the Third Pick in the NBA Draft, the Boston Celtics select...

[crimson_stallion]

Jahlil Okafor out of the Philadelphia Trash Heap!

Philly won't trade him unless it's for the 2nd pick imo

Embiid is still a wildcard. Better for them to keep both or all three Noel, Embiid, okafor

I think they might do something like 3, 23, Rozier for Okafor or maybe we give them 16 instead of 23 and get 24 back.  They supposedly like Dunn a great deal and badly need the guard help (which they won't get at 1).  I think that trade makes a good deal of sense for both teams especially since Simmons and Saric are both more of a PF than SF (and thus they really have a big man problem).  So Philly if they make that move has a starting 5 of Noel, Simmons, Covington, Free Agent, Dunn with Embiid, Rozier, Thompson, other rookies

How about:

Philly gets:  #3 & #16 plus (pick your salary filler)
Boston gets:  Okafur, rights to Dario Saric

I think most see Okafor as being better than anyone available at #3.

Saric apparently was a legit prospect who I'm guessing is a heck of a lot more valuable than #16.

You and I disagree on Okafor being better then anybody available at #3.  I will leave it at that!

[walker834]

We also have Evan Turner where Brown doesnt make a ton of sense for us Turner is a good athlete and slasher with a mid range game.  Brown is a better finisher and defender ultimately. Not the distributer Turner is.

[max215]

I think people are underrating Bender that way. His body just has to mature.  Dunn and Brown dont even make a ton of sense to me because we have Smart. I think we need to trade for a center or draft someone later. I would not waste a high pick on overrated centers just ebcause they are centers.  Bender can play center some day but is more a PF. He's a twig right now.

Bender is a physical player though. He's more physical than KO. He's just a twig and can't establish position right now because he's a twig.  KG was skinny but his body matured and he was a physical player because of his tenacity.  Again not comparing bender to KG as far as talents but sort of here. Bender could be the white KG with more range less atheticism.

I would draft a center later. We need size in general.

Givony mentioned this in his scouting report, and I think it's important that people realize this. Bender is not scared of contact; he's not soft. He may be weak and underdeveloped, but he is by no means soft.

[walker834]

GEt rid of Zeller.  Draft our perk later this draft. We don't need Brown.  We have Turner as our slasher and Crowder as our defender. We don't need Hield or Murray we have Bradley and Smart and Isaiah. Plus Rozier and Rj.

Draft Bender. He is the white KG.  More range. Less athleticism.  Very good Tenacity.

[alldaboston]

Jahlil Okafor out of the Philadelphia Trash Heap!

Philly won't trade him unless it's for the 2nd pick imo

Embiid is still a wildcard. Better for them to keep both or all three Noel, Embiid, okafor

I think they might do something like 3, 23, Rozier for Okafor or maybe we give them 16 instead of 23 and get 24 back.  They supposedly like Dunn a great deal and badly need the guard help (which they won't get at 1).  I think that trade makes a good deal of sense for both teams especially since Simmons and Saric are both more of a PF than SF (and thus they really have a big man problem).  So Philly if they make that move has a starting 5 of Noel, Simmons, Covington, Free Agent, Dunn with Embiid, Rozier, Thompson, other rookies

How about:

Philly gets:  #3 & #16 plus (pick your salary filler)
Boston gets:  Okafur, rights to Dario Saric

That would be an absolute steal. But philly says no

[hpantazo]

I think people are underrating Bender that way. His body just has to mature.  Dunn and Brown dont even make a ton of sense to me because we have Smart. I think we need to trade for a center or draft someone later. I would not waste a high pick on overrated centers just ebcause they are centers.  Bender can play center some day but is more a PF. He's a twig right now.

Bender is a physical player though. He's more physical than KO. He's just a twig and can't establish position right now because he's a twig.  KG was skinny but his body matured and he was a physical player because of his tenacity.  Again not comparing bender to KG as far as talents but sort of here. Bender could be the white KG with more range less atheticism.

I would draft a center later. We need size in general.

Givony mentioned this in his scouting report, and I think it's important that people realize this. Bender is not scared of contact; he's not soft. He may be weak and underdeveloped, but he is by no means soft.

Exactly. Thats why I described his floor as a tougher KO, which is still great. He's a very tough player, very aggressive personality. Pretty much the opposite of Jeff Green and KO. He's the type of personality Ainge and CBS love, similar to Smart. Bender and Smart would be an excellent, tough as nails duo for a decade.

[hpantazo]

Jahlil Okafor out of the Philadelphia Trash Heap!

Philly won't trade him unless it's for the 2nd pick imo

Embiid is still a wildcard. Better for them to keep both or all three Noel, Embiid, okafor

I think they might do something like 3, 23, Rozier for Okafor or maybe we give them 16 instead of 23 and get 24 back.  They supposedly like Dunn a great deal and badly need the guard help (which they won't get at 1).  I think that trade makes a good deal of sense for both teams especially since Simmons and Saric are both more of a PF than SF (and thus they really have a big man problem).  So Philly if they make that move has a starting 5 of Noel, Simmons, Covington, Free Agent, Dunn with Embiid, Rozier, Thompson, other rookies

How about:

Philly gets:  #3 & #16 plus (pick your salary filler)
Boston gets:  Okafur, rights to Dario Saric

That would be an absolute steal. But philly says no

Yeah, no chance at that. Saric may arguably be better than Okafor.

[walker834]

I think we build this and be patient.  Finding trade partners for the right players is more difficult than people think. We have the nets pick again next year where we can upgrade a guy like Turner or Bradley.

There are basically a handful of players in the nba we can trade for that actually help us.  None of which are most likely moving.

The media is a hype train that way. it's a bunch of fluff.

[86MaxwellSmart]

Bender/Sabonis/Zizic(stash in Europe)/Maker....with our picks....Let's go BIG----Danny needs to--and one or two of these guys will make it in this league...maybe all 4

[cltc5]

I'm gonna compare two guys.  Heild = Harden.  Murray=Avery Bradley.  Which would you draft first?

I get the Hield = Harden. Both names start with the letter "H."

It's the Murray = Bradley that is confusing me.

Maybe because both have last names that could be first names that end with "Y"?

  I've watched both players all year.  They bring the same thing to their teams that harden and Bradley respectively do.  Bradley is a knock down jump shooter who's best At hitting when he has space...that's Murray.  Harden can drive and can shoot from outside and can create his own space..that's Heild.  I swear the lack of basketball knowledge on this board is dumbfounding.

[max215]

I'm gonna compare two guys.  Heild = Harden.  Murray=Avery Bradley.  Which would you draft first?

I get the Hield = Harden. Both names start with the letter "H."

It's the Murray = Bradley that is confusing me.

Maybe because both have last names that could be first names that end with "Y"?

  I've watched both players all year.  They bring the same thing to their teams that harden and Bradley respectively do.  Bradley is a knock down jump shooter who's best At hitting when he has space...that's Murray.  Harden can drive and can shoot from outside and can create his own space..that's Heild.  I swear the lack of basketball knowledge on this board is dumbfounding.

Bradley might be the best on-ball defender in the league; Murray is a woeful defender. If you meant only on offense, you should've said so.

[GetLucky]

I'm gonna compare two guys.  Heild = Harden.  Murray=Avery Bradley.  Which would you draft first?

I get the Hield = Harden. Both names start with the letter "H."

It's the Murray = Bradley that is confusing me.

Maybe because both have last names that could be first names that end with "Y"?

  I've watched both players all year.  They bring the same thing to their teams that harden and Bradley respectively do.  Bradley is a knock down jump shooter who's best At hitting when he has space...that's Murray.  Harden can drive and can shoot from outside and can create his own space..that's Heild.  I swear the lack of basketball knowledge on this board is dumbfounding.

Thank you for insulting my basketball knowledge, Mr. West . Can you tell me what it was like to build the Golden State Warriors and Memphis Grizzlies? When you scout and watch hours of film, do you just completely ignore the defensive side of the ball? Why don't more championship-winning GMs do that?

Your point may have had a little more "oomph" behind it if you actually knew how to spell Buddy Hield's last name correctly.

[walker834]

BEnder is also a high iq player which most people don't realize.  I don't even know that much about him but I know that just by listening to him.  I like high iq players and certain players strike me as that each draft.  It's also who ainge targets usually. There are certain things that go overlooked in how players speak and communicate their inner drive that just comes across.

I like a lot of guys this draft that way though.  I think this is a pretty smart draft overall. 

[cltc5]

I'm gonna compare two guys.  Heild = Harden.  Murray=Avery Bradley.  Which would you draft first?

I get the Hield = Harden. Both names start with the letter "H."

It's the Murray = Bradley that is confusing me.

Maybe because both have last names that could be first names that end with "Y"?

  I've watched both players all year.  They bring the same thing to their teams that harden and Bradley respectively do.  Bradley is a knock down jump shooter who's best At hitting when he has space...that's Murray.  Harden can drive and can shoot from outside and can create his own space..that's Heild.  I swear the lack of basketball knowledge on this board is dumbfounding.

Thank you for insulting my basketball knowledge, Mr. West . Can you tell me what it was like to build the Golden State Warriors and Memphis Grizzlies? When you scout and watch hours of film, do you just completely ignore the defensive side of the ball? Why don't more championship-winning GMs do that?

Your point may have had a little more "oomph" behind it if you actually knew how to spell Buddy Hield's last name correctly.

Beware beware. It's the Internet police . Guess you don't have a substantive counter argument which underscores my assumptions. Thanks

[walker834]

I really don't understand the fascination with hield and murray.   Isaiah is basically the scorer and catalyst in our offense. Bradley comes off screens and is improving as a driver or cutter. Smart basically roams off the ball and is a defensive specialist and plays combo guard and some back up point as well.  I feel like Murray would basically take his spot in the offense and be a more offensive version of it without the defense. Hield would be a better version of bradley possibly but isnt even on that level yet and doesnt play that kind of defense.

What this team needs is Bender.  We don't even know who is going to go one or two yet. I think Ingram would fit us out of those guys but Simmons you are basically drafting his talent. Both guys could play behind crowder and some pf themselves.   Bender fits what we need at the 4 and can do that too, and we can draft a bigger center later in the draft and get rid of Zeller.  KO and Sully are not very good starters so far.  We were left starting jerebko who is ok but not that talented. Bender would be a talented version of that.