Why I would be fine with the 5th overall pick

[jambr380]

Celtics will pick 5th or 6th. No question in my mind.

how mad would you be if Boston got the 6th pick and the lakers got the 1st.  Lol

Pretty sure that's mathematically impossible. We only get 6th if all 3 of the top picks were teams who finished with a better record than Brooklyn.

I guess the real question here is, would you be happier with the 6th pick with LAL losing their pick or getting #2 with LAL getting #1?

[Fred Roberts]

I trust Danny to find the gem. Any of these guys 3-10 could bust or be great. Feels like a massive crapshoot. And it is, typically.

Poetl to me is solid, but totally unexciting. He has nice size and skill but doesn't come remotely close to making me think "dominant".

[HomerSapien]

Celtics will pick 5th or 6th. No question in my mind.

how mad would you be if Boston got the 6th pick and the lakers got the 1st.  Lol

Pretty sure that's mathematically impossible. We only get 6th if all 3 of the top picks were teams who finished with a better record than Brooklyn.

I guess the real question here is, would you be happier with the 6th pick with LAL losing their pick or getting #2 with LAL getting #1?

This is easy - bring on the #2 pick for the C's!  The Lakers losing is a nice bonus, but I really only care about good things happening to the Celtics.

[HomerSapien]

I trust Danny to find the gem. Any of these guys 3-10 could bust or be great. Feels like a massive crapshoot. And it is, typically.

Poetl to me is solid, but totally unexciting. He has nice size and skill but doesn't come remotely close to making me think "dominant".

Poeltl reminds me of Valanciunas.  A very solid player, but totally unspectacular.

If we land at 4 or 5, I'd be fine with Danny trading down to 7 or 8 and selecting Poeltl as well as picking up another asset in a future year.

[PhoSita]

I think there are definite tiers in this draft.

Tier 1: 1-2
Tier 2: 3
Tier 3: 4-6

Falling to 5 or 6 wouldn't bother me that much, because I don't see a much of difference between 4 and 6 this year.

Who is at three that's in a tier by himself? I think the major advantage of being at 3 would be your choice of the second tier of players.

That's the main reason: you get your guy. I also think Bender might be a bit better than the others in the 3-6 range.

I don't think bender is even close to being a tier above rhe other prospects.  If anything i think guys like hield, and Dunn are a tier above bender.

Dunn is going to be a beast.  Just a pity we already habe our starting PG for the foreseeable futire, bucause i think Dynn has star written all over him.  He can score, shoot, defend, handle, pass, hes a top shelf athlete, and he had decent size for the PG spot.  He's the closest thing I've seen to Chris Paul since a Chris Paul.

Uh, well, Isaiah will be 30+  by the time Dunn is ready to sign his second contract, so drafting a PG if he's the clear cut BPA might not be unreasonable.

[SHAQATTACK]

I'll take it too......not like I'd have a say n the matter.

I'll hold my nose

[guava_wrench]

I am not going to pretend to have an opinion on college players beyond the top 2 picks. But I want our pick to be good enough to get the player that Stevens wants. While we might not see a difference between players, he might.

[fairweatherfan]

Celtics will pick 5th or 6th. No question in my mind.

how mad would you be if Boston got the 6th pick and the lakers got the 1st.  Lol

Pretty sure that's mathematically impossible. We only get 6th if all 3 of the top picks were teams who finished with a better record than Brooklyn.

Yes.  The only way we finish 6th is if the Lakers are 5th and the Sixers are 4th.  We'd have to get leapfrogged by 3 lower seeded teams to go 6th.   That's how I knew we were 5th in 07 as soon as Milwaukee came up at 6.

[chambers]

I agree that the fifth pick wouldn't be the end of the world.

As long as Danny doesn't pick a bricklayer like Brown or Ellenson, I'll get behind the pick.

Brown is a lot like Winslow with more athleticism and less offensive finesse...and Danny loves Winslow. Brown would be incredibly versatile defensively and although I wouldn't be stoked with the pick, I could understand/see how Danny justifies it.
Brown can basically guard 1 through 4 and some 5.

Ellenson is enormous and suprisingly measured at just under 7 feet without shoes at the combine, with a solid vertical too. Plays both ends and would be very good after some coaching at guarding switches.
He's got serious potential on that shot too. Kevin Love with defense? I can see it in a distant dream but he's a legit 7 footer in shoes that can shoot and defend.

Anyway, point is that Brad+Danny want defensive versatility, being able to guard multiple positions, with the potential to score( in my opinion) and being to run in transition. (These kinds of athletic defenders are so important to our offense off turnovers.

We do need 3 point shooting too obviously.

[alldaboston]

I agree that the fifth pick wouldn't be the end of the world.

As long as Danny doesn't pick a bricklayer like Brown or Ellenson, I'll get behind the pick.

Brown is a lot like Winslow with more athleticism and less offensive finesse...and Danny loves Winslow. Brown would be incredibly versatile defensively and although I wouldn't be stoked with the pick, I could understand/see how Danny justifies it.
Brown can basically guard 1 through 4 and some 5.

If Danny drafts Brown I will be so mad. SO MAD!!! I am glad MJ didn't take up our offer last year. Winslow is basically Marcus smart. Can't shoot. Plays great defense. Built. Heart. Very similar players just at different positions. Neither one is helpful offensively. Brown would do nothing to help our biggest need: another scorer. We don't NEED more defense, it'd be nice, but there's other ways to improve defense via free agency, trades, etc.

Please Danny, don't take brown.

[chambers]

I agree that the fifth pick wouldn't be the end of the world.

As long as Danny doesn't pick a bricklayer like Brown or Ellenson, I'll get behind the pick.

Brown is a lot like Winslow with more athleticism and less offensive finesse...and Danny loves Winslow. Brown would be incredibly versatile defensively and although I wouldn't be stoked with the pick, I could understand/see how Danny justifies it.
Brown can basically guard 1 through 4 and some 5.

If Danny drafts Brown I will be so mad. SO MAD!!! I am glad MJ didn't take up our offer last year. Winslow is basically Marcus smart. Can't shoot. Plays great defense. Built. Heart. Very similar players just at different positions. Neither one is helpful offensively. Brown would do nothing to help our biggest need: another scorer. We don't NEED more defense, it'd be nice, but there's other ways to improve defense via free agency, trades, etc.

Please Danny, don't take brown.

Winslow has great potential as a scorer in the NBA. Just because he didn't score much as a rookie doesn't mean he won't get the chance eventually.
Right now the Heat don't need him to score. They need him to defend their best opponent and get out in transition with Dragic. Once Wade starts to decline further, Winslow will start getting a much higher usage %.

Brown has got serious size, natural strength and athleticism like Westbrook at the SF spot and it would be veeerrrry appealing to Danny lol.

I do agree we need scoring but it's going to be hard to get guaranteed scoring with any draft pick.

[LooseCannon]

I agree that the fifth pick wouldn't be the end of the world.

As long as Danny doesn't pick a bricklayer like Brown or Ellenson, I'll get behind the pick.

Brown is a lot like Winslow with more athleticism and less offensive finesse...and Danny loves Winslow. Brown would be incredibly versatile defensively and although I wouldn't be stoked with the pick, I could understand/see how Danny justifies it.
Brown can basically guard 1 through 4 and some 5.

If Danny drafts Brown I will be so mad. SO MAD!!! I am glad MJ didn't take up our offer last year. Winslow is basically Marcus smart. Can't shoot. Plays great defense. Built. Heart. Very similar players just at different positions. Neither one is helpful offensively. Brown would do nothing to help our biggest need: another scorer. We don't NEED more defense, it'd be nice, but there's other ways to improve defense via free agency, trades, etc.

Please Danny, don't take brown.

The worst pick would be someone who projects as an all-offense, no-defense player.  The Celtics didn't have the #1 defense, so there is room for improvement.  Improving offensive efficiency by two points per 100 possessions isn't necessarily more desirable than improving defensive efficiency by two points per 100 possessions.

[alldaboston]

I agree that the fifth pick wouldn't be the end of the world.

As long as Danny doesn't pick a bricklayer like Brown or Ellenson, I'll get behind the pick.

Brown is a lot like Winslow with more athleticism and less offensive finesse...and Danny loves Winslow. Brown would be incredibly versatile defensively and although I wouldn't be stoked with the pick, I could understand/see how Danny justifies it.
Brown can basically guard 1 through 4 and some 5.

If Danny drafts Brown I will be so mad. SO MAD!!! I am glad MJ didn't take up our offer last year. Winslow is basically Marcus smart. Can't shoot. Plays great defense. Built. Heart. Very similar players just at different positions. Neither one is helpful offensively. Brown would do nothing to help our biggest need: another scorer. We don't NEED more defense, it'd be nice, but there's other ways to improve defense via free agency, trades, etc.

Please Danny, don't take brown.

Winslow has great potential as a scorer in the NBA. Just because he didn't score much as a rookie doesn't mean he won't get the chance eventually.
Right now the Heat don't need him to score. They need him to defend their best opponent and get out in transition with Dragic. Once Wade starts to decline further, Winslow will start getting a much higher usage %.

Brown has got serious size, natural strength and athleticism like Westbrook at the SF spot and it would be veeerrrry appealing to Danny lol.

I do agree we need scoring but it's going to be hard to get guaranteed scoring with any draft pick.

well we could have a few options in Murray or Hield. Both of these guys could step in immediately and help us score. Sure, they aren't elite defenders, but neither is isaiah. and with isaiah starting we had the 4th best defense in the league. they wouldnt hurt us much,  if at all, defensively, and they'd actually be useful on offense.

[alldaboston]

I agree that the fifth pick wouldn't be the end of the world.

As long as Danny doesn't pick a bricklayer like Brown or Ellenson, I'll get behind the pick.

Brown is a lot like Winslow with more athleticism and less offensive finesse...and Danny loves Winslow. Brown would be incredibly versatile defensively and although I wouldn't be stoked with the pick, I could understand/see how Danny justifies it.
Brown can basically guard 1 through 4 and some 5.

If Danny drafts Brown I will be so mad. SO MAD!!! I am glad MJ didn't take up our offer last year. Winslow is basically Marcus smart. Can't shoot. Plays great defense. Built. Heart. Very similar players just at different positions. Neither one is helpful offensively. Brown would do nothing to help our biggest need: another scorer. We don't NEED more defense, it'd be nice, but there's other ways to improve defense via free agency, trades, etc.

Please Danny, don't take brown.

The worst pick would be someone who projects as an all-offense, no-defense player.  The Celtics didn't have the #1 defense, so there is room for improvement.  Improving offensive efficiency by two points per 100 possessions isn't necessarily more desirable than improving defensive efficiency by two points per 100 possessions.

I think we can all agree that Isaiah was this guy. true, we didnt pick him, but like i said above with chambers, we did start him and maintain 4th best defense.

and the thing is, that improvement can come via free agency too, or via trades. we had the 4th best defense without a legit rim protector. think if we landed a good rim protector in free agency (biyombo, just as an example though). Surely that defense would improve. and it would allow us to go for a more offensive minded player, someone like murray or hield. They arent defensive savants, but they arent that incompetent on D

[chambers]

good general interview with Jaylen Brown...
Talks a bit about the Celtics when Sherod Blakeley asks him some questions.

Really smart, really focused guy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdWHLtqyHeo