Predictions... meet Hindsight! Post your own predictions regarding the Nets!

[Moranis]

I thought they would be better and they probably would have been better (still bad and still worse than I thought) had they not lost 2 starters for a very large portion of the year. 

I did expect Lopez to be relatively healthy and he was. 

[CelticSooner]

I said between 20-25 wins. Knew they'd suck with aging vets and inexperienced players. Next year won't be as good tho I'm afraid. Nets will dish some cash out for better rotational players and they'll probably win about 30-35 games. This was the big year and Ainge needs to make sure it really counts.

[slamtheking]

I thought they'd be better. I argued it pretty passionately. If anyone deserves a 'Toader So', it's me.

Yeah man, I don't know what you were thinking.   You were way wrong.  You should feel bad about your wrong prediction.   If it makes you feel any better - at least we now have a guaranteed top 7 pick to wipe your tears with. 

pot meet kettle.  kettle meet pot

[Big333223]

The one thing that keeps me from being completely optimistic about the Nets terribleness is that the bottom of the East could still be pretty bad. It's the time of year where everyone thinks they've improved but some of them are going to be worse than expected.

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My sense is that this Nets team is going to be terrible but there are still too many questions surrounding these other teams for me to be confident that the pick will definitely be great. But there's a lot of hope.

I was pretty wishy-washy (never came down on a wins total) but I think what I said stands. The biggest thing for the Brooklyn pick being as good as its going to be is that all of those terrible Eastern conference teams from the previous season got better and were, fighting for a playoff spot for most of the season, or at least for long enough that no one seriously considered changing course and full-on tanking (I think the only team that started out thinking "playoffs" and ended thinking "tank" was Phoenix).

[max215]

Told. You. So.

The 2015/16 Nets will feature Brook Lopez, Thaddeus Young, Joe Johnson, and 12 borderline NBA players. Amazingly, by moving on from DWill the Nets actually got worse at PG. I honestly didn’t think that was possible, but along came Jarrett Jack. If Lopez’s chronic foot injuries strike again, this team drops down to 30th. In other words, start watching highlights of Ben Simmons, Jaylen Brown, Brandon Ingram, and Skal Labissiere and mark June 23, 2016 on your calendars.

http://forums.celticsblog.com/index.php?topic=80092.msg1937023#msg1937023

[PhoSita]

The biggest thing for the Brooklyn pick being as good as its going to be is that all of those terrible Eastern conference teams from the previous season got better and were, fighting for a playoff spot for most of the season, or at least for long enough that no one seriously considered changing course and full-on tanking (I think the only team that started out thinking "playoffs" and ended thinking "tank" was Phoenix).

I can't help wondering if the apparent strength of this draft, compared to the apparent strength of last year's draft, has played a part in this.

[max215]

I thought they'd be better. I argued it pretty passionately. If anyone deserves a 'Toader So', it's me.

Yeah man, I don't know what you were thinking.   You were way wrong.  You should feel bad about your wrong prediction.   If it makes you feel any better - at least we now have a guaranteed top 7 pick to wipe your tears with. 

pot meet kettle.  kettle meet pot

Something tells me that was meant to be a bit tongue-in-cheek.

[Smartacus]

Mine wasn't too bad right?...

13-15. [pick range]

21 votes for 4 to 6? For a team that has no incetentive to tank. That plays in the east. That will still have Brook Lopez (injury prone he's but nobody thought Ilgauskas would be able to stay healthy after the first half of his career). That will probably be able to resign Joe Johnson to play out the final years of his career. With an owner with deep pockets. With a coach that lead Memphis to its highest win total ever the year he was fired, Hollins hasn't missed the playoffs in years. That will have cap space.

This team is going to land a pick in the Philly/Minney/Sac town bottom feeder slot?

Sorry to be overly negative but I think some folks around here are way over valuing this pick.

http://forums.celticsblog.com/index.php?topic=80252.msg1942131#msg1942131

https://youtu.be/WrjwaqZfjIY

[Big333223]

The biggest thing for the Brooklyn pick being as good as its going to be is that all of those terrible Eastern conference teams from the previous season got better and were, fighting for a playoff spot for most of the season, or at least for long enough that no one seriously considered changing course and full-on tanking (I think the only team that started out thinking "playoffs" and ended thinking "tank" was Phoenix).

I can't help wondering if the apparent strength of this draft, compared to the apparent strength of last year's draft, has played a part in this.

Totally possible. In fact it's probably the case.

But I no longer care what anyone says about the strength of a given draft, though. Sometimes they're right (the '13 draft was awful) and sometimes they're wrong (it's still early and the '14 draft was fine but it's looking like it won't be anything near as good as the experts claimed it would be).

[max215]

Mine wasn't too bad right?...

13-15. [pick range]

21 votes for 4 to 6? For a team that has no incetentive to tank. That plays in the east. That will still have Brook Lopez (injury prone he's but nobody thought Ilgauskas would be able to stay healthy after the first half of his career). That will probably be able to resign Joe Johnson to play out the final years of his career. With an owner with deep pockets. With a coach that lead Memphis to its highest win total ever the year he was fired, Hollins hasn't missed the playoffs in years. That will have cap space.

This team is going to land a pick in the Philly/Minney/Sac town bottom feeder slot?

Sorry to be overly negative but I think some folks around here are way over valuing this pick.

http://forums.celticsblog.com/index.php?topic=80252.msg1942131#msg1942131

https://youtu.be/WrjwaqZfjIY

I love this one, TP.

[hwangjini_1]

The biggest thing for the Brooklyn pick being as good as its going to be is that all of those terrible Eastern conference teams from the previous season got better and were, fighting for a playoff spot for most of the season, or at least for long enough that no one seriously considered changing course and full-on tanking (I think the only team that started out thinking "playoffs" and ended thinking "tank" was Phoenix).

I can't help wondering if the apparent strength of this draft, compared to the apparent strength of last year's draft, has played a part in this.

Totally possible. In fact it's probably the case.

But I no longer care what anyone says about the strength of a given draft, though. Sometimes they're right (the '13 draft was awful) and sometimes they're wrong (it's still early and the '14 draft was fine but it's looking like it won't be anything near as good as the experts claimed it would be).

well, well...is that an internal contradiction that i see? 

[Vox_Populi]

http://forums.celticsblog.com/index.php?topic=80547.msg1952263#msg1952263

Unless the East is even worse than originally thought, and it usually finds ways to do so, I think Brooklyn will be lucky to win 30+ games. They lost key rotation players in Williams, Teletovic, and Anderson and added players who played decent minutes on incredibly bad teams or who barely played at all: Bargnani, Ellington, Larkin, Quincy Miller and Robinson.

I did a rudimentary win estimation using minute projection weighted BPM and the results were ugly. I have them winning about 23 games. Seven of their fifteen players were below replacement level last season - i.e. worth a minimum contract - only three guys on their team had a positive BPM. Johnson is getting older. Lopez barely played over 50% of his potential minutes last season. It's very likely the Celtics get at least a top 10 pick from them next season.

I honestly can't believe how close I was. It's kind of funny, I did win projections for every team using BPM, and my closest were probably the Celtics - whom I had at 46 - and Brooklyn. All hail modern analytics.

EDIT: I guess I'd add that my BPM projections had Golden State winning 71 games, but I thought that was insane. The teams I was most wrong about were Chicago (50 wins), Houston (nearing 60 wins), and Portland (37-ish wins). I was fairly close with Dallas, had them at 41 to 42.

[chambers]

I think the Pacers are going to struggle adjusting to this new system.

Brooklyn will be simply terrible. Did anyone else watch them today and the last game? Yes it's preseason but they are just horrid defensively.

I think Detroit will be better than both Brooklyn and Indiana.

Wow they are absolutely terrible.
Bargani is leading this second unit with Thomas Robinson and it's just sad.
Their defense is just atrocious.

Their starting unit will just be exhausted by the 4th quarter.

That's going to be their 2nd biggest issue all season...lack of bench and an exhausted group of mediocre starters come 3rd quarter.

Their biggest problem will be their defense.

After last night

I have no faith the Lakers can beat the Nets .

Nets are very poor ......to be sure....but


Lakers flat out suck .....worse maybe than the sixers.....if that is possible.

Lakers will be fine. Their roster is way better than the Nets.
A few adjustments over over the next 10 games and they'll starting winning a few.

I think the only teams 100% worse than the Nets are the 76ers and Nuggets and if they lose Lopez they are worse than Denver IMO.

lol

[LarBrd33]

I thought they'd be better. I argued it pretty passionately. If anyone deserves a 'Toader So', it's me.

Yeah man, I don't know what you were thinking.   You were way wrong.  You should feel bad about your wrong prediction.   If it makes you feel any better - at least we now have a guaranteed top 7 pick to wipe your tears with. 

pot meet kettle.  kettle meet pot

Something tells me that was meant to be a bit tongue-in-cheek.

I have no idea what you are talking about.  We all knew Brooklyn was going to be terrible this year. 

[BornReady]

the poll seems to be a little too close in terms of numbers and varied
better to have it 1-3, 4-6, or 1-5, 6-10
as it gives an easier score

that said i chose 7-9
but i think it is probably 6-11

people think because deron is gone they are much worser
but i dont think this is the case as he clearly had lost a step and did not play that well anyway
also plumlee is out but he did not play well with brook lopez and deron also didnt play well with joe johnson

so may be the team dynamics change for their better

but still there are a lot of other teams improved so they will not reach the playoffs

I was at least right about them not making the playoffs
but I underestimated how terrible they would be
which is fortunate for the celtics

Also I didnt think all the other teams would drop off
like bucks,wizards and rockets