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 What range draft pick will we get from the Nets next summer?

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Re: Nets Pick?
« Reply #60 on: August 05, 2015, 06:53:07 PM »

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Can someone please name me 5-7 teams (Excluding Philly) who you think are  worst then the Nets?? Because all I came up with was Philly, Portland, and "possibly" Minnesota.   

To me Magic and Pistons in my eyes is either similar or alot better. Only thing NEts got goin for them is so veteran experience. They got no Guards and bigs that cant defend. I will calll top 3 pick. Actuallly, I call pick #2

I don't think it'll be a top 3 pick because we've gotten to the point where tanking is so prevalent that to get in the top 3 you have to be actively trying to lose. (ex. Philly every year, Knicks last year, Lakers last year)

I think it's significantly more likely than not it will be in the top 10 though. Like you said, there just aren't many teams that are worse than the Nets are.


I agree with the tanking perspective but really feel this years different.  If Knicks bottom out again then Melo is deff gone and think Melo may be able to drag them into a 8-11 spot in the east. Also no way Kobe's bottoms out and his team is not that bad after their pickups (not  a playoff team either) Just seems like no team this year other then Portland and Philly have any desire to tank. IMO of course. Knowing how stuff doesn't go as statistically shown, you probably be right

Don't think anyone other than Philly, Portland, and probably the T-Wolves are going into the season expecting to be bad, but as the season progresses certain teams will either suffer injuries or begin to realize that their chemistry just isn't working and throw the season accordingly.


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Re: Nets Pick?
« Reply #61 on: August 05, 2015, 06:54:16 PM »

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The nets squeak into the playoffs next year.

Any reasoning behind this?
Yes.  First, the East is terrible.  Second, some have suggested that removing Darren Williams could be a plus.  Third, they were a playoff team last year.  Fourth, they will go all out to win since they do not have their draft pick (from the coached to the players).  They DO NOT want to hand the Celts a lottery.  And finally, don't like to get my hopes up because we all know luck has never been on our side when it comes to the draft.  With our luck, they will all stay healthy and overachieve.

And did I mention the East is terrible?
I agree with Droop.   They look capable of winning at least 35 games.  I actually see them being on a par with the Celtics.  Both teams should win between 35-45.

They finished 13-6.  They are as likely as the Celtics to finish with less than 30 wins.

You realize they lost alan anderson, Deron Williams, Teletovic, and Plumlee who were 4 rotation players for them?
C'mon...

Teletovic - didn't play during the second half of the season
Plumlee - Was down to 13 minutes over the final month and 8 minutes in the playoffs
Anderson - I mean... ok?

Losing Deron might hurt a bit?  Jarrett Jack is a serviceable PG.  Joe Johnson still has game.  Brook Lopez was sensational over the final couple months (20/10/2),  Thad Young provided a major upgrade over Garnett... adding Bargnani might help a bit...

People expecting that team to finish bottom 6 must expect injuries.   That's likely a fringe playoff team in the East.

So to recap LarBrd33 logic: Losing Teletovic, Plumlee, Anderson, + Deron while adding Bargnani, RHJ, and the bust/injured Robinson = still a playoff-caliber team in the East when a) they barely squeaked into the playoffs last year, and b) the teams they beat out last year (Miami, Indiana, Charlotte, New York, Orlando, Detroit) all significantly improved their roster through additions, health, or anticipated internal developments.

This is just another example of you constantly being over-optimistic about other teams and over-pessimistic about our own team, because, hey, Brooklyn is going to win 50 games this year, right?  ;)
Other than Miami, I don't think any of the teams listed significantly improved their roster.  Miami should be better but there are significant health concerns.

wow in what crazy world is adding Robin Lopez, a healthy Carmelo Anthony and Aaron Afflalo not improving? They aren't superstars, but they were starting caliber players on an NBA playoff team and more then the Knicks had last year.
Carmelo played 40 games last season and their record was 10-30 in those games.  Lopez is a nice pickup. They'll certainly be better but I don't see them competing for a playoff spot. 

Re: Nets Pick?
« Reply #62 on: August 05, 2015, 06:55:40 PM »

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Can someone please name me 5-7 teams (Excluding Philly) who you think are  worst then the Nets?? Because all I came up with was Philly, Portland, and "possibly" Minnesota.   

To me Magic and Pistons in my eyes is either similar or alot better. Only thing NEts got goin for them is so veteran experience. They got no Guards and bigs that cant defend. I will calll top 3 pick. Actuallly, I call pick #2

I don't think it'll be a top 3 pick because we've gotten to the point where tanking is so prevalent that to get in the top 3 you have to be actively trying to lose. (ex. Philly every year, Knicks last year, Lakers last year)

I think it's significantly more likely than not it will be in the top 10 though. Like you said, there just aren't many teams that are worse than the Nets are.


I agree with the tanking perspective but really feel this years different.  If Knicks bottom out again then Melo is deff gone and think Melo may be able to drag them into a 8-11 spot in the east. Also no way Kobe's bottoms out and his team is not that bad after their pickups (not  a playoff team either) Just seems like no team this year other then Portland and Philly have any desire to tank. IMO of course. Knowing how stuff doesn't go as statistically shown, you probably be right

Don't think anyone other than Philly, Portland, and probably the T-Wolves are going into the season expecting to be bad, but as the season progresses certain teams will either suffer injuries or begin to realize that their chemistry just isn't working and throw the season accordingly.


Your absolutely right bout that. Knicks started last season chasing a playoff spot. 25 games in  and a injury report later, everything changed

Re: Nets Pick?
« Reply #63 on: August 05, 2015, 06:57:42 PM »

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The nets squeak into the playoffs next year.

Any reasoning behind this?
Yes.  First, the East is terrible.  Second, some have suggested that removing Darren Williams could be a plus.  Third, they were a playoff team last year.  Fourth, they will go all out to win since they do not have their draft pick (from the coached to the players).  They DO NOT want to hand the Celts a lottery.  And finally, don't like to get my hopes up because we all know luck has never been on our side when it comes to the draft.  With our luck, they will all stay healthy and overachieve.

And did I mention the East is terrible?
I agree with Droop.   They look capable of winning at least 35 games.  I actually see them being on a par with the Celtics.  Both teams should win between 35-45.

They finished 13-6.  They are as likely as the Celtics to finish with less than 30 wins.

You realize they lost alan anderson, Deron Williams, Teletovic, and Plumlee who were 4 rotation players for them?
C'mon...

Teletovic - didn't play during the second half of the season
Plumlee - Was down to 13 minutes over the final month and 8 minutes in the playoffs
Anderson - I mean... ok?

Losing Deron might hurt a bit?  Jarrett Jack is a serviceable PG.  Joe Johnson still has game.  Brook Lopez was sensational over the final couple months (20/10/2),  Thad Young provided a major upgrade over Garnett... adding Bargnani might help a bit...

People expecting that team to finish bottom 6 must expect injuries.   That's likely a fringe playoff team in the East.

So to recap LarBrd33 logic: Losing Teletovic, Plumlee, Anderson, + Deron while adding Bargnani, RHJ, and the bust/injured Robinson = still a playoff-caliber team in the East when a) they barely squeaked into the playoffs last year, and b) the teams they beat out last year (Miami, Indiana, Charlotte, New York, Orlando, Detroit) all significantly improved their roster through additions, health, or anticipated internal developments.

This is just another example of you constantly being over-optimistic about other teams and over-pessimistic about our own team, because, hey, Brooklyn is going to win 50 games this year, right?  ;)
Other than Miami, I don't think any of the teams listed significantly improved their roster.  Miami should be better but there are significant health concerns.

wow in what crazy world is adding Robin Lopez, a healthy Carmelo Anthony and Aaron Afflalo not improving? They aren't superstars, but they were starting caliber players on an NBA playoff team and more then the Knicks had last year.
Carmelo played 40 games last season and their record was 10-30 in those games.  Lopez is a nice pickup. They'll certainly be better but I don't see them competing for a playoff spot.

I somewhat agree but if  nets can make the playoffs,  then Knicks can make the playoffs.

Re: Nets Pick?
« Reply #64 on: August 05, 2015, 06:59:41 PM »

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The whole incentives thing is overblown as well.

Of course Brooklyn has no incentive to tank, but you know what else they have no incentive to do? Dump millions of dollars into mediocre players solely out of spite just so they won't give the Celtics a lottery pick.  They are not going to make significant mid-season additions. If they are given the chance to dump Johnson's contract or get assets back for Lopez, they will jump at that chance.

The fact that they went out and replaced their departed players with a bunch of minimum-contract scrubs should tell you everything you need to know regarding their outlook for the season.


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Re: Nets Pick?
« Reply #65 on: August 05, 2015, 07:10:28 PM »

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The whole incentives thing is overblown as well.

Of course Brooklyn has no incentive to tank, but you know what else they have no incentive to do? Dump millions of dollars into mediocre players solely out of spite just so they won't give the Celtics a lottery pick.  They are not going to make significant mid-season additions. If they are given the chance to dump Johnson's contract or get assets back for Lopez, they will jump at that chance.

The fact that they went out and replaced their departed players with a bunch of minimum-contract scrubs should tell you everything you need to know regarding their outlook for the season.

yes.. the nets management is also on record saying they are going to play their young guys.

Re: Nets Pick?
« Reply #66 on: August 05, 2015, 07:27:23 PM »

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The nets squeak into the playoffs next year.

Any reasoning behind this?
Yes.  First, the East is terrible.  Second, some have suggested that removing Darren Williams could be a plus.  Third, they were a playoff team last year.  Fourth, they will go all out to win since they do not have their draft pick (from the coached to the players).  They DO NOT want to hand the Celts a lottery.  And finally, don't like to get my hopes up because we all know luck has never been on our side when it comes to the draft.  With our luck, they will all stay healthy and overachieve.

And did I mention the East is terrible?
I agree with Droop.   They look capable of winning at least 35 games.  I actually see them being on a par with the Celtics.  Both teams should win between 35-45.

They finished 13-6.  They are as likely as the Celtics to finish with less than 30 wins.

You realize they lost alan anderson, Deron Williams, Teletovic, and Plumlee who were 4 rotation players for them?
C'mon...

Teletovic - didn't play during the second half of the season
Plumlee - Was down to 13 minutes over the final month and 8 minutes in the playoffs
Anderson - I mean... ok?

Losing Deron might hurt a bit?  Jarrett Jack is a serviceable PG.  Joe Johnson still has game.  Brook Lopez was sensational over the final couple months (20/10/2),  Thad Young provided a major upgrade over Garnett... adding Bargnani might help a bit...

People expecting that team to finish bottom 6 must expect injuries.   That's likely a fringe playoff team in the East.

So to recap LarBrd33 logic: Losing Teletovic, Plumlee, Anderson, + Deron while adding Bargnani, RHJ, and the bust/injured Robinson = still a playoff-caliber team in the East when a) they barely squeaked into the playoffs last year, and b) the teams they beat out last year (Miami, Indiana, Charlotte, New York, Orlando, Detroit) all significantly improved their roster through additions, health, or anticipated internal developments.

This is just another example of you constantly being over-optimistic about other teams and over-pessimistic about our own team, because, hey, Brooklyn is going to win 50 games this year, right?  ;)
Other than Miami, I don't think any of the teams listed significantly improved their roster.  Miami should be better but there are significant health concerns.

wow in what crazy world is adding Robin Lopez, a healthy Carmelo Anthony and Aaron Afflalo not improving? They aren't superstars, but they were starting caliber players on an NBA playoff team and more then the Knicks had last year.
Carmelo played 40 games last season and their record was 10-30 in those games.  Lopez is a nice pickup. They'll certainly be better but I don't see them competing for a playoff spot.

I somewhat agree but if  nets can make the playoffs,  then Knicks can make the playoffs.

It's nuts to think the Nets are a playoff team after losing DWill, who was one of their best players last year. Who is their 4th best player now? How will they beat out Indy + Paul George, Miami + Bosh, or Boston? It's reasonable to think they'll end up late lotto if everyone stays healthy, but that's still a big if and you also have to factor in the odds that Billy King does something boneheaded, which are high.

Re: Nets Pick?
« Reply #67 on: August 05, 2015, 08:16:30 PM »

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The nets squeak into the playoffs next year.

Any reasoning behind this?
Yes.  First, the East is terrible.  Second, some have suggested that removing Darren Williams could be a plus.  Third, they were a playoff team last year.  Fourth, they will go all out to win since they do not have their draft pick (from the coached to the players).  They DO NOT want to hand the Celts a lottery.  And finally, don't like to get my hopes up because we all know luck has never been on our side when it comes to the draft.  With our luck, they will all stay healthy and overachieve.

And did I mention the East is terrible?
I agree with Droop.   They look capable of winning at least 35 games.  I actually see them being on a par with the Celtics.  Both teams should win between 35-45.

They finished 13-6.  They are as likely as the Celtics to finish with less than 30 wins.

You realize they lost alan anderson, Deron Williams, Teletovic, and Plumlee who were 4 rotation players for them?
C'mon...

Teletovic - didn't play during the second half of the season
Plumlee - Was down to 13 minutes over the final month and 8 minutes in the playoffs
Anderson - I mean... ok?

Losing Deron might hurt a bit?  Jarrett Jack is a serviceable PG.  Joe Johnson still has game.  Brook Lopez was sensational over the final couple months (20/10/2),  Thad Young provided a major upgrade over Garnett... adding Bargnani might help a bit...

People expecting that team to finish bottom 6 must expect injuries.   That's likely a fringe playoff team in the East.

So to recap LarBrd33 logic: Losing Teletovic, Plumlee, Anderson, + Deron while adding Bargnani, RHJ, and the bust/injured Robinson = still a playoff-caliber team in the East when a) they barely squeaked into the playoffs last year, and b) the teams they beat out last year (Miami, Indiana, Charlotte, New York, Orlando, Detroit) all significantly improved their roster through additions, health, or anticipated internal developments.

This is just another example of you constantly being over-optimistic about other teams and over-pessimistic about our own team, because, hey, Brooklyn is going to win 50 games this year, right?  ;)
Other than Miami, I don't think any of the teams listed significantly improved their roster.  Miami should be better but there are significant health concerns.

Charlotte: lost Vonleh, Stephenson, and Henderson and got Batum, Kaminsky, Hawes, Lamb, and Lin. I'd say that's an upgrade since Henderson is the only one that really played significant minutes for them by the end of the year.

Indiana: Lost Hibbert, West, and Miles (I think) and got George back to health, Ellis, Turner, and Hill. Getting a healthy George back alone improves them dramatically, but with how old West was looking and crappy Hibbert was playing, the additions look to be even more of an improvement.

Miami: I agree that a lot will depend on health, but they're definitely much better just by getting Bosh back. Also, adding Stoudemire, Green, and Winslow to their bench is big, too.

New York: They were horrible last year, so adding Lopez, Afflalo, and getting Melo back healthy is definitely significant improvement.

Detroit: Lost Monroe (not sure about who else) but gained Jennings back from health, Johnson, Ilyasova, Morris, and Blake, Granger, and Baynes for their bench. That's definitely an upgrade given how poor of a fit Monroe was on that roster.

Orlando: Orlando is definitely the most questionable of the group, but they didn't really lose anything of value and they gained Mario. Also, you have to figure in that Vuc, Oladipo, Payton, Harris, and Gordon should all theoretically make internal improvements, so they're definitely going to be better than last year.

Sure, it can be argued that none of these are San Antonio-level roster improvements, but that's not the point. The point is it enough to catch up to Brooklyn in the standings. Thus, the following:

Indiana: 0 games behind (lost tiebreaker)
Miami: 1 game behind
Charlotte: 5 games behind
Detroit: 6 games behind
Orlando: 13 games behind
New York: 21 games behind

Between record improvements of these teams and a decrease in wins from Brooklyn, it's definitely not inconceivable to see them finishing behind each one of these teams. In my opinion, Orlando and Detroit are the only ones who would be questionable on if they could catch Brooklyn in the standings. I definitely predict Indiana, Miami, Charlotte, and New York to all finish with the same record or a better record than Brooklyn this year due to Brooklyn being worse and those teams being better.

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Re: Nets Pick?
« Reply #68 on: August 05, 2015, 11:46:18 PM »

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The nets squeak into the playoffs next year.

Any reasoning behind this?
Yes.  First, the East is terrible.  Second, some have suggested that removing Darren Williams could be a plus.  Third, they were a playoff team last year.  Fourth, they will go all out to win since they do not have their draft pick (from the coached to the players).  They DO NOT want to hand the Celts a lottery.  And finally, don't like to get my hopes up because we all know luck has never been on our side when it comes to the draft.  With our luck, they will all stay healthy and overachieve.

And did I mention the East is terrible?
I agree with Droop.   They look capable of winning at least 35 games.  I actually see them being on a par with the Celtics.  Both teams should win between 35-45.

They finished 13-6.  They are as likely as the Celtics to finish with less than 30 wins.

You realize they lost alan anderson, Deron Williams, Teletovic, and Plumlee who were 4 rotation players for them?
C'mon...

Teletovic - didn't play during the second half of the season
Plumlee - Was down to 13 minutes over the final month and 8 minutes in the playoffs
Anderson - I mean... ok?

Losing Deron might hurt a bit?  Jarrett Jack is a serviceable PG.  Joe Johnson still has game.  Brook Lopez was sensational over the final couple months (20/10/2),  Thad Young provided a major upgrade over Garnett... adding Bargnani might help a bit...

People expecting that team to finish bottom 6 must expect injuries.   That's likely a fringe playoff team in the East.

So to recap LarBrd33 logic: Losing Teletovic, Plumlee, Anderson, + Deron while adding Bargnani, RHJ, and the bust/injured Robinson = still a playoff-caliber team in the East when a) they barely squeaked into the playoffs last year, and b) the teams they beat out last year (Miami, Indiana, Charlotte, New York, Orlando, Detroit) all significantly improved their roster through additions, health, or anticipated internal developments.

This is just another example of you constantly being over-optimistic about other teams and over-pessimistic about our own team, because, hey, Brooklyn is going to win 50 games this year, right?  ;)
Other than Miami, I don't think any of the teams listed significantly improved their roster.  Miami should be better but there are significant health concerns.

Charlotte: lost Vonleh, Stephenson, and Henderson and got Batum, Kaminsky, Hawes, Lamb, and Lin. I'd say that's an upgrade since Henderson is the only one that really played significant minutes for them by the end of the year.

Indiana: Lost Hibbert, West, and Miles (I think) and got George back to health, Ellis, Turner, and Hill. Getting a healthy George back alone improves them dramatically, but with how old West was looking and crappy Hibbert was playing, the additions look to be even more of an improvement.

Miami: I agree that a lot will depend on health, but they're definitely much better just by getting Bosh back. Also, adding Stoudemire, Green, and Winslow to their bench is big, too.

New York: They were horrible last year, so adding Lopez, Afflalo, and getting Melo back healthy is definitely significant improvement.

Detroit: Lost Monroe (not sure about who else) but gained Jennings back from health, Johnson, Ilyasova, Morris, and Blake, Granger, and Baynes for their bench. That's definitely an upgrade given how poor of a fit Monroe was on that roster.

Orlando: Orlando is definitely the most questionable of the group, but they didn't really lose anything of value and they gained Mario. Also, you have to figure in that Vuc, Oladipo, Payton, Harris, and Gordon should all theoretically make internal improvements, so they're definitely going to be better than last year.

Sure, it can be argued that none of these are San Antonio-level roster improvements, but that's not the point. The point is it enough to catch up to Brooklyn in the standings. Thus, the following:

Indiana: 0 games behind (lost tiebreaker)
Miami: 1 game behind
Charlotte: 5 games behind
Detroit: 6 games behind
Orlando: 13 games behind
New York: 21 games behind

Between record improvements of these teams and a decrease in wins from Brooklyn, it's definitely not inconceivable to see them finishing behind each one of these teams. In my opinion, Orlando and Detroit are the only ones who would be questionable on if they could catch Brooklyn in the standings. I definitely predict Indiana, Miami, Charlotte, and New York to all finish with the same record or a better record than Brooklyn this year due to Brooklyn being worse and those teams being better.
Nowadays rookies don't make much of an impact so I discount them as an impact for next season.  Other than Miami, none of the teams mentioned are clearly better than the Nets. 

Charlotte is a lousy organization and those additions don't impress me.  Batum had one of his worst seasons.  Hawes, Lamb and Lin aren't impact players.  The Hornets were 21-41 when Walker played.  They lost Mo Williams who played well for them. 

Indiana wants to change their style of play.  I think they'll take a bigger step back on defense than they take a step forward on offense.  Ellis is fools gold.  He's a lousy defender.  He'll look great on offense one night and lousy the next. 

Miami's health is a big concern.  However when Bosh did play, their record was 19-25.  Down the stretch with Wade, Deng, Dragic and Whiteside playing they still couldn't make the playoffs in the weak east.  I can see them being anywhere from the 2nd best team in the east to the 10th best. 

NY was 10-30 in the games Carmelo played. 

I really like Johnson and he may be the rookie with the most impact.  Ilyasova, Blake, Granger, and Baynes aren't impact players.  The Morris brothers are malcontents and have significant legal issues.  You can say Monroe was a bad fit in Detroit but whoever they start in his place will be a downgrade. 

The Magic's only real hope for significant improvement is their coaching change. 

I'm expecting the Nets to finish 10th in the East.  Lopez's health is their key factor. 

Re: Nets Pick?
« Reply #69 on: August 06, 2015, 05:04:06 AM »

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the poll seems to be a little too close in terms of numbers and varied
better to have it 1-3, 4-6, or 1-5, 6-10
as it gives an easier score

that said i chose 7-9
but i think it is probably 6-11

people think because deron is gone they are much worser
but i dont think this is the case as he clearly had lost a step and did not play that well anyway
also plumlee is out but he did not play well with brook lopez and deron also didnt play well with joe johnson

so may be the team dynamics change for their better

but still there are a lot of other teams improved so they will not reach the playoffs

Re: Nets Pick?
« Reply #70 on: August 06, 2015, 01:09:09 PM »

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The whole incentives thing is overblown as well.

Of course Brooklyn has no incentive to tank, but you know what else they have no incentive to do? Dump millions of dollars into mediocre players solely out of spite just so they won't give the Celtics a lottery pick.  They are not going to make significant mid-season additions. If they are given the chance to dump Johnson's contract or get assets back for Lopez, they will jump at that chance.

The fact that they went out and replaced their departed players with a bunch of minimum-contract scrubs should tell you everything you need to know regarding their outlook for the season.

yes.. the nets management is also on record saying they are going to play their young guys.
There has also been report after report about the Nets losing so much money in the last two years they are really just trying to get under the cap this season so they can rebuild and compete in the future but their main goal is to get flexibility back, otherwise they'll never compete. Reading a bit into it, that means to me that they're prepared to basically punt this season in order to fight again another day.

Maybe that's seeing the situation through green colored glasses but it makes sense to me that, although they don't want to lose games, they would prioritize dumping money and taking on young players this year even if that's the result.
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« Reply #71 on: August 06, 2015, 01:35:34 PM »

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Imagine the Brooklyn pick will fall in the bottom areas of the lottery.

Re: Nets Pick?
« Reply #72 on: August 06, 2015, 02:53:59 PM »

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« Reply #73 on: August 06, 2015, 03:48:21 PM »

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The whole incentives thing is overblown as well.

Of course Brooklyn has no incentive to tank, but you know what else they have no incentive to do? Dump millions of dollars into mediocre players solely out of spite just so they won't give the Celtics a lottery pick.  They are not going to make significant mid-season additions. If they are given the chance to dump Johnson's contract or get assets back for Lopez, they will jump at that chance.

The fact that they went out and replaced their departed players with a bunch of minimum-contract scrubs should tell you everything you need to know regarding their outlook for the season.
Here's the thing; to be really, really bad (especially in the east), you pretty much have to work at it.  I do not see the Nets purposely trying to be bad.

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« Reply #74 on: August 06, 2015, 03:54:41 PM »

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The whole incentives thing is overblown as well.

Of course Brooklyn has no incentive to tank, but you know what else they have no incentive to do? Dump millions of dollars into mediocre players solely out of spite just so they won't give the Celtics a lottery pick.  They are not going to make significant mid-season additions. If they are given the chance to dump Johnson's contract or get assets back for Lopez, they will jump at that chance.

The fact that they went out and replaced their departed players with a bunch of minimum-contract scrubs should tell you everything you need to know regarding their outlook for the season.
Here's the thing; to be really, really bad (especially in the east), you pretty much have to work at it.  I do not see the Nets purposely trying to be bad.

This sounds reasonable, but you have to think that if they find a taker for Johnson, they will jump on it. They already stated they wanted to play their younger guys, what is their incentive to running Johnson into the ground?

Also, I think they only re-signed Lopez because they couldn't afford to lose their only asset for nothing. I am sure they would be willing to deal him if the right package of young players / picks came along.