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Re: Too many picks....
« Reply #45 on: April 06, 2016, 02:34:43 PM »

Offline Vox_Populi

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Trade Avery Bradley, Amir Johnson, and James Young for Greg Monroe.

I'm not throwing Bradley away like that when there is a reasonable case that Johnson is more valuable than Monroe.
I agree. Greg Monroe left Detroit and they got dramatically better. He joined Milwuakee and they got worse. There were lots of other variables, but he was the former team's biggest departure and the latter's biggest acquisition. Milwaukee were 6-6 when he came off the bench. They're 26-38 when he starts.

I just don't think he's worth two starters. Another bad sign, his minutes per game have dropped the last four consecutive seasons including this one. Incrementally at best, but it's still the inverse of what should be true given his age, his perceived talents and the fact all those teams were/are in the lottery.

Re: Too many picks....
« Reply #46 on: April 06, 2016, 02:56:49 PM »

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I think Ainge would much rather make a draft day trade then sell off picks.   I think he values our players as well and isn't going to sell off guys just for the sake of it. He'll probably look to pair some of these picks and a few of our young guys to move up or for a player.  There's something we are all missing here though. Ainge has a plan somewhere in there.  He's going to find the best option but there have to be players he is targetting pretty hard.

I agree we have too many picks though.  I also think the way this team is playing players don't seem to be playing like they aren't going to be here.  Most guys are playing like they are a part of something.
Ainge will try to get value. It isn't about 'selling off' picks. But you don't get value from your picks if you have to cut them to get to 15 roster spots. You don't get value from picks if they never get to play on your team.

If other teams know that Ainge needs to move picks, they have an advantage in negotiations. The only leverage Ainge has is (1) competition from other teams who could make better offers and (2) the desire of teams to pick up particular players they like in the draft. Otherwise, teams know that the roster crunch means that Ainge has no choice but to move picks.

Draft day deals are great, but if on draft day no one is biting, what do you do? Look at the failed Winslow trade.

That's what I mean though.  I don't think Ainge is winging this here.  He has to have a much better idea of what he's ultimately trying to do than we do.  According to the media he's been targetting everyone that's available but is that just the media talking or what. I believe some of it.  I also don't believe quite a bit of it.   It's hard to tell in general.  I think Ainge has certain players in mind he is targetting though.   Teams aren't always willing to deal but DA keeps trying he is going to get close to a deal that makes sense ultimately.

The media to me is a lot of noise.  it comes from everywhere and anywhere and who knows who is really speaking.  When Ainge does something it's usually something else.

Re: Too many picks....
« Reply #47 on: April 06, 2016, 03:03:34 PM »

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Ainge talks to a lot of teams.  What gets out in the media is basically Ainge isn't leaving any stone unturned.  He knows players values and situations and is going to know when to pounce and offer a good deal.

Re: Too many picks....
« Reply #48 on: April 06, 2016, 03:03:41 PM »

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Even with all of the picks, it's possible to envision a scenario without a major trade on draft day that still gives the Celts a pretty decent roster.


#5 - Murray
#16 - Sabonis
#23 - Zizic (stash)
#31 - Hernangomez (stash)
#35 - Diallo

Then in the free agency period:

Trade Avery Bradley, Amir Johnson, and James Young for Greg Monroe.
Sign Jared Dudley
Sign D.J. Augustin
Re-sign Sullinger

Starters: IT, Smart, Crowder, Sullinger, Monroe

Bench: Rozier, Murray, Dudley, Sabonis, Olynyk

Reserve: Augustin, Hunter, Jerebko, Mickey, Diallo

gross. AB is so close to a star an GM is not.