is there something more to jordan mickey

[rollie mass]

with the weakness of philly and suns, what is with jordon mickey getting so little time
is his offence that lacking or is his complete defence lacking
writers and reporters are curiously silent-
the coaches see him every practice-how does he perform and what is holding him back
booker made mincemeat of our defence-i couldn't help but think a young active shot blocker might have changed his getting to the hoop

[playdream]

A win over the Suns isn't necessarily helping, maybe that's why

[Tr1boy]

with the weakness of philly and suns, what is with jordon mickey getting so little time
is his offence that lacking or is his complete defence lacking
writers and reporters are curiously silent-
the coaches see him every practice-how does he perform and what is holding him back
booker made mincemeat of our defence-i couldn't help but think a young active shot blocker might have changed his getting to the hoop

Strength and adj to the pace of the NBA

Also CBS has a soft heart for Zeller

Next season things will be different

[Eddie20]

with the weakness of philly and suns, what is with jordon mickey getting so little time
is his offence that lacking or is his complete defence lacking
writers and reporters are curiously silent-
the coaches see him every practice-how does he perform and what is holding him back
booker made mincemeat of our defence-i couldn't help but think a young active shot blocker might have changed his getting to the hoop

He's a very weak rebounder and has no offensive game whatsoever. So as a non-stretch 4, he really kills our offensive spacing making it much harder for others to penetrate. As for his D, he's very good at defending the PNR and as a weakside shotblocker, but he too often gets swallowed up by bigger players inside.

His best chance for longterm success is to add quality size and develop his perimeter game out to the 3pt line. He's really far off from both, so this looks like a multiple year project type of deal.

[trickybilly]

with the weakness of philly and suns, what is with jordon mickey getting so little time
is his offence that lacking or is his complete defence lacking
writers and reporters are curiously silent-
the coaches see him every practice-how does he perform and what is holding him back
booker made mincemeat of our defence-i couldn't help but think a young active shot blocker might have changed his getting to the hoop

He's a very weak rebounder and has no offensive game whatsoever. So as a non-stretch 4, he really kills our offensive spacing making it much harder for others to penetrate. As for his D, he's very good at defending the PNR and as a weakside shotblocker, but he too often gets swallowed up by bigger players inside.

His best chance for longterm success is to add quality size and develop his perimeter game out to the 3pt line. He's really far off from both, so this looks like a multiple year project type of deal.

Are you talking about Mickey? Not sure he has no offensive game whatsoever. That is a stretch.

[TheTruthFot18]

with the weakness of philly and suns, what is with jordon mickey getting so little time
is his offence that lacking or is his complete defence lacking
writers and reporters are curiously silent-
the coaches see him every practice-how does he perform and what is holding him back
booker made mincemeat of our defence-i couldn't help but think a young active shot blocker might have changed his getting to the hoop

He's a very weak rebounder and has no offensive game whatsoever. So as a non-stretch 4, he really kills our offensive spacing making it much harder for others to penetrate. As for his D, he's very good at defending the PNR and as a weakside shotblocker, but he too often gets swallowed up by bigger players inside.

His best chance for longterm success is to add quality size and develop his perimeter game out to the 3pt line. He's really far off from both, so this looks like a multiple year project type of deal.

Could he end up like Biyombo? Solid shot blocker who is undersized and limited offensive game? Not amazing but a solid pick in the early 2nd round.

[Eddie20]

with the weakness of philly and suns, what is with jordon mickey getting so little time
is his offence that lacking or is his complete defence lacking
writers and reporters are curiously silent-
the coaches see him every practice-how does he perform and what is holding him back
booker made mincemeat of our defence-i couldn't help but think a young active shot blocker might have changed his getting to the hoop

He's a very weak rebounder and has no offensive game whatsoever. So as a non-stretch 4, he really kills our offensive spacing making it much harder for others to penetrate. As for his D, he's very good at defending the PNR and as a weakside shotblocker, but he too often gets swallowed up by bigger players inside.

His best chance for longterm success is to add quality size and develop his perimeter game out to the 3pt line. He's really far off from both, so this looks like a multiple year project type of deal.

Are you talking about Mickey? Not sure he has no offensive game whatsoever. That is a stretch.

Yeah, I am. He's an opportunistic offensive player that will get gabage buckets (putbacks, transition buckets), but he has no offensive game. He can't stretch the floor at all and players constantly play off him to help clog the lane. His shooting is a work in progress and his FT shooting (62%) resembles what he did last season in college (64%).

[CFAN38]

I don't think there is really much to look into with Mickey's lack of playing time. He is a 21 year old NBA big man they simply take time to develop. This season he has done exactly what he needed to as a celtic. That is he performed very well in his D-League assignments and proved to have the talent to dominate in a lesser league, given minutes on the Cs he has shown flashes of what he may be as a NBA player. With that being said he has a lot of work to do to become an effective rotational NBA player. The key for Jordan will be his jump shot which seems to be the focus of his development based on pregame workouts and the little ive read on him this season. I imagine the Cs hope to one day develop him into a stretch 4 / super small 5 who can provide high level help defense and spread the floor.

For those who think Mickey should play over Zeller you need to remember Zeller is 7' and around 260lbs compared to Mickeys 6'8 240. The Cs simply need tylers size. 

[D Dub]

with the weakness of philly and suns, what is with jordon mickey getting so little time
is his offence that lacking or is his complete defence lacking
writers and reporters are curiously silent-
the coaches see him every practice-how does he perform and what is holding him back
booker made mincemeat of our defence-i couldn't help but think a young active shot blocker might have changed his getting to the hoop

i wonder if there is something to the outside shooting others allude to?

especially with Jae out, forcing Smart into big minutes-- I could see Brad wanting to ensure there aren't two sub-par shooters on the floor at any one time. 

you do have a point though, Brad himself called Mickey our best athlete.  you'd think if he could hit an open jump shot, we would have found him some more run while Kelly was out.  I'm excited to see if he can live up the potential folks are seeing in him.   

[Tr1boy]

with the weakness of philly and suns, what is with jordon mickey getting so little time
is his offence that lacking or is his complete defence lacking
writers and reporters are curiously silent-
the coaches see him every practice-how does he perform and what is holding him back
booker made mincemeat of our defence-i couldn't help but think a young active shot blocker might have changed his getting to the hoop

He's a very weak rebounder and has no offensive game whatsoever. So as a non-stretch 4, he really kills our offensive spacing making it much harder for others to penetrate. As for his D, he's very good at defending the PNR and as a weakside shotblocker, but he too often gets swallowed up by bigger players inside.

His best chance for longterm success is to add quality size and develop his perimeter game out to the 3pt line. He's really far off from both, so this looks like a multiple year project type of deal.

Are you talking about Mickey? Not sure he has no offensive game whatsoever. That is a stretch.

Yeah, I am. He's an opportunistic offensive player that will get gabage buckets (putbacks, transition buckets), but he has no offensive game. He can't stretch the floor at all and players constantly play off him to help clog the lane. His shooting is a work in progress and his FT shooting (62%) resembles what he did last season in college (64%).

Eddie20 is just a hater.   Watch the highlights clip and judge for yourself if he has no offensive game.  And Mickey is a good rebounder.   Just like the majority of the rookies they will have problems rebounding against NBA vets (strength, experience).

D league player of the month (December).  Jump shots, drive from the perimeter and all. Eddie20 still no offensive game? =P
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-gOPVSqF5E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4B3efcL-jVU

[greece66]

I don't think there is really much to look into with Mickey's lack of playing time. He is a 21 year old NBA big man they simply take time to develop. This season he has done exactly what he needed to as a celtic. That is he performed very well in his D-League assignments and proved to have the talent to dominate in a lesser league, given minutes on the Cs he has shown flashes of what he may be as a NBA player. With that being said he has a lot of work to do to become an effective rotational NBA player. The key for Jordan will be his jump shot which seems to be the focus of his development based on pregame workouts and the little ive read on him this season. I imagine the Cs hope to one day develop him into a stretch 4 / super small 5 who can provide high level help defense and spread the floor.

For those who think Mickey should play over Zeller you need to remember Zeller is 7' and around 260lbs compared to Mickeys 6'8 240. The Cs simply need tylers size.

I agree with first para; only have some reservations for bolded part.

Zeller got major mins after we waived DLee; it was the right thing to do given his performance last season.

Having said this, he has been so consistently bad that now Stevens experiments more with smallball and Jonas.

tl;dr I doubt Zeller is the reason Mickey did not get mins.

[Tr1boy]

with the weakness of philly and suns, what is with jordon mickey getting so little time
is his offence that lacking or is his complete defence lacking
writers and reporters are curiously silent-
the coaches see him every practice-how does he perform and what is holding him back
booker made mincemeat of our defence-i couldn't help but think a young active shot blocker might have changed his getting to the hoop

He's a very weak rebounder and has no offensive game whatsoever. So as a non-stretch 4, he really kills our offensive spacing making it much harder for others to penetrate. As for his D, he's very good at defending the PNR and as a weakside shotblocker, but he too often gets swallowed up by bigger players inside.

His best chance for longterm success is to add quality size and develop his perimeter game out to the 3pt line. He's really far off from both, so this looks like a multiple year project type of deal.

Are you talking about Mickey? Not sure he has no offensive game whatsoever. That is a stretch.

Yeah, I am. He's an opportunistic offensive player that will get gabage buckets (putbacks, transition buckets), but he has no offensive game. He can't stretch the floor at all and players constantly play off him to help clog the lane. His shooting is a work in progress and his FT shooting (62%) resembles what he did last season in college (64%).

He is shooting the FT at 75 percent in the Dleague. What are you talking about?
Also 35 percent at the 3 pt line. And this is a guy that never took a 3 in college ball

http://www.basketball-reference.com/dleague/players/m/mickejo01d.html

[Eddie20]

with the weakness of philly and suns, what is with jordon mickey getting so little time
is his offence that lacking or is his complete defence lacking
writers and reporters are curiously silent-
the coaches see him every practice-how does he perform and what is holding him back
booker made mincemeat of our defence-i couldn't help but think a young active shot blocker might have changed his getting to the hoop

He's a very weak rebounder and has no offensive game whatsoever. So as a non-stretch 4, he really kills our offensive spacing making it much harder for others to penetrate. As for his D, he's very good at defending the PNR and as a weakside shotblocker, but he too often gets swallowed up by bigger players inside.

His best chance for longterm success is to add quality size and develop his perimeter game out to the 3pt line. He's really far off from both, so this looks like a multiple year project type of deal.

Are you talking about Mickey? Not sure he has no offensive game whatsoever. That is a stretch.

Yeah, I am. He's an opportunistic offensive player that will get gabage buckets (putbacks, transition buckets), but he has no offensive game. He can't stretch the floor at all and players constantly play off him to help clog the lane. His shooting is a work in progress and his FT shooting (62%) resembles what he did last season in college (64%).

Eddie20 is just a hater.   Watch the highlights clip and judge for yourself if he has no offensive game.  And Mickey is a good rebounder.   Just like the majority of the rookies they will have problems rebounding against NBA vets (strength, experience).

D league player of the month (December).  Jump shots, 3 pt shot, drive from the perimeter and all. Eddie20 still no offensive game? =P
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-gOPVSqF5E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4B3efcL-jVU

You know you're in trouble when you have to make so many D-League references. Luke Harangody was awesome there too, averaging 20 and 12. Did that translate?

Mickey has no offensive game at all and if you read my comments in assessing his strengths and weaknesses you would see that I'm pretty objective. He's a project who has a lot of work to do. Instead of acknowledging that, you act as though it's a mass conspiracy by Stevens to not play him because he favors vets to, you know, winning games.

[Tr1boy]

with the weakness of philly and suns, what is with jordon mickey getting so little time
is his offence that lacking or is his complete defence lacking
writers and reporters are curiously silent-
the coaches see him every practice-how does he perform and what is holding him back
booker made mincemeat of our defence-i couldn't help but think a young active shot blocker might have changed his getting to the hoop

He's a very weak rebounder and has no offensive game whatsoever. So as a non-stretch 4, he really kills our offensive spacing making it much harder for others to penetrate. As for his D, he's very good at defending the PNR and as a weakside shotblocker, but he too often gets swallowed up by bigger players inside.

His best chance for longterm success is to add quality size and develop his perimeter game out to the 3pt line. He's really far off from both, so this looks like a multiple year project type of deal.

Are you talking about Mickey? Not sure he has no offensive game whatsoever. That is a stretch.

Yeah, I am. He's an opportunistic offensive player that will get gabage buckets (putbacks, transition buckets), but he has no offensive game. He can't stretch the floor at all and players constantly play off him to help clog the lane. His shooting is a work in progress and his FT shooting (62%) resembles what he did last season in college (64%).

Eddie20 is just a hater.   Watch the highlights clip and judge for yourself if he has no offensive game.  And Mickey is a good rebounder.   Just like the majority of the rookies they will have problems rebounding against NBA vets (strength, experience).

D league player of the month (December).  Jump shots, 3 pt shot, drive from the perimeter and all. Eddie20 still no offensive game? =P
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-gOPVSqF5E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4B3efcL-jVU

You know you're in trouble when you have to make so many D-League references. Luke Harangody was awesome there too, averaging 20 and 12. Did that translate?

Mickey has no offensive game at all and if you read my comments in assessing his strengths and weaknesses you would see that I'm pretty objective. He's a project who has a lot of work to do. Instead of acknowledging that, you act as though it's a mass conspiracy by Stevens to not play him because he favors vets to, you know, winning games.

you are not objective at all. Just hating

What Jordan Mickey is doing in the Dleague is amazing for a 1st year guy.   Every game he has produced quality stats .  Near triple doubles etc.   

And also you don't realize that he is a rookie.  You think all rookies are ready or something

Mickey for the short time he has been given a chance has made an impact . It might not show in stats but just by him being on the floor, teams take notice and are hesistant to drive in.  His PNR D and team D is sensational

Offensively you said he is a garbage man. Tell me, how many passes has he received where he has an opportunity to do something? 

and you don't factor in that adding strength in the offseason will help his game for next season.   

We will see who is right.  Don't hate and be patient

[Eddie20]

Triboy, since you like Mickey and the D-League so much, you should strongly consider getting season tickets to the Red Claws next year. You'll be able to have a front row seat for all his games and then you could come and tell us how awesome he is.

I've never seen anyone drool about marginal talent like Mickey, Perry Ellis, and so on like the way you do.