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Is Isaiah better than Kyrie?
« on: February 26, 2016, 08:02:56 PM »

Offline Denis998

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Ever since they got drafted, the comparison between Isaiah and Kyrie have been quite close. Looking at traditional stats, Isaiah actually has the upper hand, by a considerably wide margin.
http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/6472/isaiah-thomas
http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/6442/kyrie-irving
looking at advanced stats, Isaiah also has a clear upper hand on both ends of the court.
http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/rpm/_/sort/RPM/position/1

also another link to compare:
http://stats.nba.com/vs/#!/?PlayerID=202738&VsPlayerID=202681
« Last Edit: February 26, 2016, 08:15:37 PM by Denis998 »
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Re: Is Isaiah better than Kyrie?
« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2016, 08:08:27 PM »

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Straight up...I don't think so.

Factor in the money...definitely.

What hurts is that Thomas gets bullied from time to time.
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Re: Is Isaiah better than Kyrie?
« Reply #2 on: February 26, 2016, 08:09:58 PM »

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Nope. Kyrie is 5 to 6 inches taller than IT with a similar skillset.
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Re: Is Isaiah better than Kyrie?
« Reply #3 on: February 26, 2016, 08:15:42 PM »

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Has height made Kyrie into a better defender?
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« Reply #4 on: February 26, 2016, 08:16:33 PM »

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No
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Re: Is Isaiah better than Kyrie?
« Reply #5 on: February 26, 2016, 08:17:23 PM »

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Quote from: Rondo9 on February 26, 2016, 08:15:42 PM
Has height made Kyrie into a better defender?
judging by DRPM, Isaiah is a better defender.
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« Reply #6 on: February 26, 2016, 08:18:33 PM »

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Quote from: Denis998 on February 26, 2016, 08:17:23 PM
Quote from: Rondo9 on February 26, 2016, 08:15:42 PM
Has height made Kyrie into a better defender?
judging by DRPM, Isaiah is a better defender.

Height hasn't made Kyrie a better defender, but IT isn't a good defender either. IT and Kyrie are basically the same type of player.
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« Reply #7 on: February 26, 2016, 08:20:45 PM »

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Quote from: ahonui06 on February 26, 2016, 08:18:33 PM
Quote from: Denis998 on February 26, 2016, 08:17:23 PM
Quote from: Rondo9 on February 26, 2016, 08:15:42 PM
Has height made Kyrie into a better defender?
judging by DRPM, Isaiah is a better defender.

Height hasn't made Kyrie a better defender, but IT isn't a good defender either. IT and Kyrie are basically the same type of player.
meaning they are scoring point guards?
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« Reply #8 on: February 26, 2016, 08:48:13 PM »

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Sorry, but no....ask Cleveland if they would swap.

IT is gonna get shut down in the playoffs again--He's great, but he's a regular season player.
Which is pretty much our entire team.
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Re: Is Isaiah better than Kyrie?
« Reply #9 on: February 26, 2016, 08:51:41 PM »

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Quote from: 86MaxwellSmart on February 26, 2016, 08:48:13 PM
Sorry, but no....ask Cleveland if they would swap.

IT is gonna get shut down in the playoffs again--He's great, but he's a regular season player.
Which is pretty much our entire team.

When you're the only scoring option, then defenses will focus on you. Will Kyrie suffer the same fate if he and Isaiah swapped places?
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« Reply #10 on: February 26, 2016, 08:56:59 PM »

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Quote from: Denis998 on February 26, 2016, 08:20:45 PM
Quote from: ahonui06 on February 26, 2016, 08:18:33 PM
Quote from: Denis998 on February 26, 2016, 08:17:23 PM
Quote from: Rondo9 on February 26, 2016, 08:15:42 PM
Has height made Kyrie into a better defender?
judging by DRPM, Isaiah is a better defender.

Height hasn't made Kyrie a better defender, but IT isn't a good defender either. IT and Kyrie are basically the same type of player.
meaning they are scoring point guards?

Basically. Score first point guards that get teammates involved, although IT is a tad better in that department. However, IT isn't better than Kyrie.
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« Reply #11 on: February 26, 2016, 09:19:39 PM »

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Right now he is. Irving is still young and could get it at some point, but now Isaiah is the better player, more efficient, stronger, and contributes to winning more.
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« Reply #12 on: February 26, 2016, 11:18:25 PM »

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Factoring in money, yes. The only thing to keep in mind is that Kyrie is younger.
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« Reply #13 on: February 26, 2016, 11:21:32 PM »

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I would certainly trade Isaiah Thomas for Kyrie if possible, if that's what you guys are suggesting. Kyrie and Smart would be a nightmare for the back court to guard.
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« Reply #14 on: February 26, 2016, 11:24:38 PM »

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Kyrie is only 'better' because he was the 1st pick and Isaiah was the 60th pick. Also, Kyrie is taller than IT and receives a lot more national attention. These facts don't literally make Kyrie better than IT, but that is the sad truth.

Taking injuries, contract, and attitude into consideration, I will take IT 10/10 times.
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