Would you choose Lillard over Curry?

[Yoki_IsTheName]

Curry >> Lillard.

His TS% is .121 higher than Lillard's.  That's Grand Canyon size.

Roy please look at who Lillard is playing with vs Curry

He played with Aldridge - Matthews - Batum before, during the time when LMA is being considered one of the top players in the league, and Klay and Draymond has not blossomed to their All-Star selves.

Here's Steph's numbers in 13-14, a year before Klay became and All - Star and 2 years before Draymond joined them...

24 points, 8 .5 assists, 4.3 rebounds, 1.6 steals, 47% FG, 42% 3PT

Here's Lillard's, playing with 28 years old LaMarcus Aldridge (in his absolute prime), Batum, Matthews and Robin Lopez and was a clear better team than the Dubs at that time.

20.8 points, 5.3 assists, 3.5 rebounds, 0.8 steals, 42% FG, 39% 3PT 


So Roy is right, Curry >> Lillard.

[guava_wrench]

Curry plays in a system with players that help him maximize his talents. Not sure if he could have nearly as much success in another team/system. Lillard seems like a guy who could fit in more places, plus has more parts to his game. Lillard for me.

If Curry is on a different team, they adjust their system to fit Curry. He is that good.

Curry isn't just a scorer. In his rookies season with Ellis, he was forced to facilitate and showed he is an amazing passer. And Curry shoots from 25 feet like how great shooters shoot corner 3s. No one is at Curry's level right now when comes to being able to generate offense.

Curry is also a ridiculous dribbler. Curry shoots great from close to the rim. Curry can fit anywhere. He is just so good though that teams will adjust to better leverage him. Force him in a system that doesn't fit him and maybe he plummets to Lillard-level production at worst.

[chilidawg]

Curry's RPM is 10.55, first in the league, Lillard's is 2.04, 57th.   Curry's DRPM is 1.48, 3rd among point guards.  Lillard's is -2.48, 72nd of 83 point guards. 

Draw your own conclusions.

[DefenseWinsChamps]

Lillard and Curry are both decent defenders.   But I would have to give the edge to Lillard. Just longer and more explosive

There is literally no stat that indicates Lillard is good at defense, other than 6'3'' (as if that counts). Length does not equal effectiveness. DRPM, DRTG, Opponents field goal percentage, steals per game, etc. All point out the fact that Lillard is probably the worst defensive point guard in the NBA, bar none.

[Yoki_IsTheName]

Lillard and Curry are both decent defenders.   But I would have to give the edge to Lillard. Just longer and more explosive

There is literally no stat that indicates Lillard is good at defense, other than 6'3'' (as if that counts). Length does not equal effectiveness. DRPM, DRTG, Opponents field goal percentage, steals per game, etc. All point out the fact that Lillard is probably the worst defensive point guard in the NBA, bar none.

Agreed.

I wouldn't go as far as the worst defensive guard, but he's clearly not better than Curry just because he's got the length.

Outside of the already posted DPRM, NBA.com/Stats has this defensive stat. Curry allows shooters 3.5% less than their normal FG% when he's defending them, Lillard allows 0.5% more.

Triboy can give the edge to Lillard, but the numbers tell otherwise.

[indeedproceed]

After much deliberation, I'd choose Lillard over Eddy Curry, over Mark Curry, over Ann Curry, and over an aging Tim Curry but perhaps not peak Clue-era Tim Curry.

This is the right answer, except that while it acknowledged peak Clue-era Curry, it does not acknowledge lights out transcendental Rocky Horror Picture Show Tim Curry. Or maybe it is just understood that nothing Dame Lillard can do (not even scoring 51 pts in 31 minutes, which is flat out amazing, and nobody has ever since they started recording minutes scored more points in fewer minutes played in one complete game. Kobe managed 51 of his own on 31 minutes, coincidentally against Portland) can ever equal the brilliance of RHPS.

[indeedproceed]

Lillard and Curry are both decent defenders.   But I would have to give the edge to Lillard. Just longer and more explosive

There is literally no stat that indicates Lillard is good at defense, other than 6'3'' (as if that counts). Length does not equal effectiveness. DRPM, DRTG, Opponents field goal percentage, steals per game, etc. All point out the fact that Lillard is probably the worst defensive point guard in the NBA, bar none.

I don't think you understand what bar none means, because that statement is categorically untrue. I don't want to look at all the stats, but you just pick one, say DRTG (cuz its easy to find), Lillard rates as better than Rondo, Mudiay, Jarret Jack, Brandon Knight, Michael Carter-Williams...

That's (the bolded part above) not even close to true. Lillard is no defense force or anything, but he is not the worst starting point guard in the NBA on the defensive side, and he's not even close to it. He's much closer to average than he is to the worst.

[Roy H.]

After much deliberation, I'd choose Lillard over Eddy Curry, over Mark Curry, over Ann Curry, and over an aging Tim Curry but perhaps not peak Clue-era Tim Curry.

This is the right answer, except that while it acknowledged peak Clue-era Curry, it does not acknowledge lights out transcendental Rocky Horror Picture Show Tim Curry. Or maybe it is just understood that nothing Dame Lillard can do (not even scoring 51 pts in 31 minutes, which is flat out amazing, and nobody has ever since they started recording minutes scored more points in fewer minutes played in one complete game. Kobe managed 51 of his own on 31 minutes, coincidentally against Portland) can ever equal the brilliance of RHPS.

In 1993, Nick Anderson scored 50 points in 33 minutes.  I wonder if an imaginary Magic blog would have asked "Would you choose Anderson over Jordan?"

[KG Living Legend]

top 3 NBA player vs guy somewhere in between 20-30.
hmmmm

tough question.

 Curry is the #1 player in the league.

[Ogaju]

Depends on what you are serving

If you are serving rice

I will definitely have Curry.

If you are serving bacon or grits, I would take a Lil'lard

When is the party?

[indeedproceed]

After much deliberation, I'd choose Lillard over Eddy Curry, over Mark Curry, over Ann Curry, and over an aging Tim Curry but perhaps not peak Clue-era Tim Curry.

This is the right answer, except that while it acknowledged peak Clue-era Curry, it does not acknowledge lights out transcendental Rocky Horror Picture Show Tim Curry. Or maybe it is just understood that nothing Dame Lillard can do (not even scoring 51 pts in 31 minutes, which is flat out amazing, and nobody has ever since they started recording minutes scored more points in fewer minutes played in one complete game. Kobe managed 51 of his own on 31 minutes, coincidentally against Portland) can ever equal the brilliance of RHPS.

In 1993, Nick Anderson scored 50 points in 33 minutes.  I wonder if an imaginary Magic blog would have asked "Would you choose Anderson over Jordan?"

I don't think Nick Anderson to Michael Jordan is a realistic comparison, the difference between the two isn't that wide, but obviously Curry is better. Dame had a hell of a game, kudos for him for that but obviously, not a real choice at this point. Steph Curry is the best player in basketball, bar none.

[max215]

Lillard and Curry are both decent defenders.   But I would have to give the edge to Lillard. Just longer and more explosive

I've never heard Lillard described as a decent defender. Everything I've read about him is that he's an absolutely terrible defender.

He's not lazy the way Harden is, but he's terrible.

[max215]

I absolutely love Lillard. He is without a doubt one of my five favorite players in the league. But while Lillard's game is similar to Curry's, he is essentially Evan Turner to Steph's LeBron.

[chambers]

After much deliberation, I'd choose Lillard over Eddy Curry, over Mark Curry, over Ann Curry, and over an aging Tim Curry but perhaps not peak Clue-era Tim Curry.

This is the right answer, except that while it acknowledged peak Clue-era Curry, it does not acknowledge lights out transcendental Rocky Horror Picture Show Tim Curry. Or maybe it is just understood that nothing Dame Lillard can do (not even scoring 51 pts in 31 minutes, which is flat out amazing, and nobody has ever since they started recording minutes scored more points in fewer minutes played in one complete game. Kobe managed 51 of his own on 31 minutes, coincidentally against Portland) can ever equal the brilliance of RHPS.

In 1993, Nick Anderson scored 50 points in 33 minutes.  I wonder if an imaginary Magic blog would have asked "Would you choose Anderson over Jordan?"

Lol TP

[indeedproceed]

Curry >> Lillard.

His TS% is .121 higher than Lillard's.  That's Grand Canyon size.

Roy please look at who Lillard is playing with vs Curry

He played with Aldridge - Matthews - Batum before, during the time when LMA is being considered one of the top players in the league, and Klay and Draymond has not blossomed to their All-Star selves.

Here's Steph's numbers in 13-14, a year before Klay became and All - Star and 2 years before Draymond joined them...

24 points, 8 .5 assists, 4.3 rebounds, 1.6 steals, 47% FG, 42% 3PT

Here's Lillard's, playing with 28 years old LaMarcus Aldridge (in his absolute prime), Batum, Matthews and Robin Lopez and was a clear better team than the Dubs at that time.

20.8 points, 5.3 assists, 3.5 rebounds, 0.8 steals, 42% FG, 39% 3PT 


So Roy is right, Curry >> Lillard.

This is an interesting look, both players in their 4th year:

http://bkref.com/tiny/Je0Gg

Pretty...pretty...similar.