Would you choose Lillard over Curry?

[GetLucky]

Would you choose John Starks over Michael Jordan?

[Ogaju]

Would you choose John Starks over Michael Jordan?

don't you mean Sean John? Never heard a designer named John Stark!!

[fairweatherfan]

After much deliberation, I'd choose Lillard over Eddy Curry, over Mark Curry, over Ann Curry, and over an aging Tim Curry but perhaps not peak Clue-era Tim Curry.

This is the right answer, except that while it acknowledged peak Clue-era Curry, it does not acknowledge lights out transcendental Rocky Horror Picture Show Tim Curry. Or maybe it is just understood that nothing Dame Lillard can do (not even scoring 51 pts in 31 minutes, which is flat out amazing, and nobody has ever since they started recording minutes scored more points in fewer minutes played in one complete game. Kobe managed 51 of his own on 31 minutes, coincidentally against Portland) can ever equal the brilliance of RHPS.

He must've played more minutes but Kobe (vs Dallas I think) once had 62 pts by the end of the 3rd quarter, and sat out the 4th.

EDIT: Yup, 33 minutes.  Much more impressive than 51 in 31 (which is of course still awesome in its own right).  http://espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=251220013

[Roy H.]

After much deliberation, I'd choose Lillard over Eddy Curry, over Mark Curry, over Ann Curry, and over an aging Tim Curry but perhaps not peak Clue-era Tim Curry.

This is the right answer, except that while it acknowledged peak Clue-era Curry, it does not acknowledge lights out transcendental Rocky Horror Picture Show Tim Curry. Or maybe it is just understood that nothing Dame Lillard can do (not even scoring 51 pts in 31 minutes, which is flat out amazing, and nobody has ever since they started recording minutes scored more points in fewer minutes played in one complete game. Kobe managed 51 of his own on 31 minutes, coincidentally against Portland) can ever equal the brilliance of RHPS.

He must've played more minutes but Kobe (vs Dallas I think) once had 62 pts by the end of the 3rd quarter, and sat out the 4th.

EDIT: Yup, 33 minutes.  Much more impressive than 51 in 31 (which is of course still awesome in its own right).  http://espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=251220013

Karl Malone once had 61 points in 33 minutes, and added 18 rebounds on 21-for-26 shooting.

In terms of basketball-reference's "Game Score", that's third since 1984, behind Kobe's 81 point game and Jordan's 69 point / 18 rebound game (in 50 minutes).

[indeedproceed]

After much deliberation, I'd choose Lillard over Eddy Curry, over Mark Curry, over Ann Curry, and over an aging Tim Curry but perhaps not peak Clue-era Tim Curry.

This is the right answer, except that while it acknowledged peak Clue-era Curry, it does not acknowledge lights out transcendental Rocky Horror Picture Show Tim Curry. Or maybe it is just understood that nothing Dame Lillard can do (not even scoring 51 pts in 31 minutes, which is flat out amazing, and nobody has ever since they started recording minutes scored more points in fewer minutes played in one complete game. Kobe managed 51 of his own on 31 minutes, coincidentally against Portland) can ever equal the brilliance of RHPS.

He must've played more minutes but Kobe (vs Dallas I think) once had 62 pts by the end of the 3rd quarter, and sat out the 4th.

EDIT: Yup, 33 minutes.  Much more impressive than 51 in 31 (which is of course still awesome in its own right).  http://espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=251220013

I figured someone scored more per minute, and ended up with more points, thought about figuring it out, decided to try to find the movie clue somewhere online.

[indeedproceed]

After much deliberation, I'd choose Lillard over Eddy Curry, over Mark Curry, over Ann Curry, and over an aging Tim Curry but perhaps not peak Clue-era Tim Curry.

This is the right answer, except that while it acknowledged peak Clue-era Curry, it does not acknowledge lights out transcendental Rocky Horror Picture Show Tim Curry. Or maybe it is just understood that nothing Dame Lillard can do (not even scoring 51 pts in 31 minutes, which is flat out amazing, and nobody has ever since they started recording minutes scored more points in fewer minutes played in one complete game. Kobe managed 51 of his own on 31 minutes, coincidentally against Portland) can ever equal the brilliance of RHPS.

He must've played more minutes but Kobe (vs Dallas I think) once had 62 pts by the end of the 3rd quarter, and sat out the 4th.

EDIT: Yup, 33 minutes.  Much more impressive than 51 in 31 (which is of course still awesome in its own right).  http://espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=251220013

I figured someone scored more per minute, and ended up with more points, thought about figuring it out, decided to try to find the movie clue somewhere online.

And also, can anyone beat Bacon and Penn in Mystic River, Penn and Sarandon in Dead Man Walking, Sarandon and Curry in RHPS?

[Tr1boy]

I think Lilard has shown how weak Curry's defending is and how protected his is in Kerr's system l. No great two way player cops 50 points, I can't even remember a prime Rondo ever getting scored on that much by another point guard

yup.  Curry is a decent defender but not great

People considering him as the best player in the league need to think about it again

you have to be a top offensive and defensive player.

Michael Jordan was just that. 

Tim Duncan

KG

etc

How can you be a top player just being an offensive machine or defensive stopper?

you can't

[BudweiserCeltic]

I think Lilard has shown how weak Curry's defending is and how protected his is in Kerr's system l. No great two way player cops 50 points, I can't even remember a prime Rondo ever getting scored on that much by another point guard

yup.  Curry is a decent defender but not great

People considering him as the best player in the league need to think about it again

you have to be a top offensive and defensive player.

Michael Jordan was just that. 

Tim Duncan

KG

etc

How can you be a top player just being an offensive machine or defensive stopper?

you can't

Other than, you know... he has and he is...

Stop day dreaming about one freaking game and extrapolating from that a dude's whole season/career, it'll do wonders for your analysis.

But of course, now you point out that he's a "decent defender, but not great". I'm pretty sure that an offensive machine of Curry's magnitude (again you're not appreciating how incredibly dominant he's being on that end) and a "decent defender" is more than capable of being a top player. Not only that, but THE top player.

Not only that, your solution is Lillard... which makes no sense at all. Again, stop with the one game extrapolation nonsense.

[Tr1boy]

I think Lilard has shown how weak Curry's defending is and how protected his is in Kerr's system l. No great two way player cops 50 points, I can't even remember a prime Rondo ever getting scored on that much by another point guard

yup.  Curry is a decent defender but not great

People considering him as the best player in the league need to think about it again

you have to be a top offensive and defensive player.

Michael Jordan was just that. 

Tim Duncan

KG

etc

How can you be a top player just being an offensive machine or defensive stopper?

you can't

Other than, you know... he has and he is...

Stop day dreaming about one freaking game and extrapolating from that a dude's whole season/career, it'll do wonders for your analysis.

But of course, now you point out that he's a "decent defender, but not great". I'm pretty sure that an offensive machine of Curry's magnitude (again you're not appreciating how incredibly dominant he's being on that end) and a "decent defender" is more than capable of being a top player. Not only that, but THE top player.

Not only that, your solution is Lillard... which makes no sense at all. Again, stop with the one game extrapolation nonsense.

no more bud for you my friend

does Lillard look like a one hit wonder to you???

How many huge games has he had before?

[BudweiserCeltic]

I think Lilard has shown how weak Curry's defending is and how protected his is in Kerr's system l. No great two way player cops 50 points, I can't even remember a prime Rondo ever getting scored on that much by another point guard

yup.  Curry is a decent defender but not great

People considering him as the best player in the league need to think about it again

you have to be a top offensive and defensive player.

Michael Jordan was just that. 

Tim Duncan

KG

etc

How can you be a top player just being an offensive machine or defensive stopper?

you can't

Other than, you know... he has and he is...

Stop day dreaming about one freaking game and extrapolating from that a dude's whole season/career, it'll do wonders for your analysis.

But of course, now you point out that he's a "decent defender, but not great". I'm pretty sure that an offensive machine of Curry's magnitude (again you're not appreciating how incredibly dominant he's being on that end) and a "decent defender" is more than capable of being a top player. Not only that, but THE top player.

Not only that, your solution is Lillard... which makes no sense at all. Again, stop with the one game extrapolation nonsense.

no more bud for you my friend

does Lillard look like a one hit wonder to you???

How many huge games has he had before?

Here's to you missing the point completely and arguing something I'm not arguing... O.o

[chambers]

Curry is a better defender than Lilliard too.
No comparison.
Lilliard is a great point guard. Top 7 or 8 point guard in the league. Maybe an All Star.

Curry is the best point guard in the league and a top 3 player.
Curry is on Allen Iverson's level, even better than Chris Paul.
He will be a hall of famer.
For every 40 or 50 point games Lilliard has, Curry has 10.

There is no comparison. 

[Smartacus]

This is going sound kind of asinine but my take on it is that Curry loves to hit shots more and Lillard hates to miss shots more.

Curry is more talented with his ability to hit incredible shots from anywhere on the court and aristry of a passing game but Lillard's killer instinct has willed himself into a conversation that he never had any business being a part of. Lillard has one of the biggest chips on his shoulder the league has ever seen.

Frankly I just think it's awesome for the league that both of these guys are turning into generational players and came from small schools. Gives hope to a lot of guys that might never have been given a shot before these two came along.

[IDreamCeltics]

I think Lilard has shown how weak Curry's defending is and how protected his is in Kerr's system l. No great two way player cops 50 points, I can't even remember a prime Rondo ever getting scored on that much by another point guard

yup.  Curry is a decent defender but not great

People considering him as the best player in the league need to think about it again

you have to be a top offensive and defensive player.

Michael Jordan was just that. 

Tim Duncan

KG

etc

How can you be a top player just being an offensive machine or defensive stopper?

you can't

You most certainly can, for example if your offense is that much better than the league's best defender's defense (which it is) and your team consistently puts up more points than your opponents (which it does) you can be the best player in the league.  Dominance is dominance.

I honestly don't really understand this discussion. One guy has a championship, outplayed Lebron in an finals series, AND is the best player on a team that's currently on pace to break the NBA's win/loss record set by a team that had Michael Jordan and two other hall of famers on it plus Steve Kerr who still holds the highest career 3 point shooting percentage in NBA history at 45.4 %.

The other guy has never been on a team that reached the conference finals and is having his best (statistical) season on a .500 team that likely won't make the playoffs.  What's to compare?

[Tr1boy]

I think Lilard has shown how weak Curry's defending is and how protected his is in Kerr's system l. No great two way player cops 50 points, I can't even remember a prime Rondo ever getting scored on that much by another point guard

yup.  Curry is a decent defender but not great

People considering him as the best player in the league need to think about it again

you have to be a top offensive and defensive player.

Michael Jordan was just that. 

Tim Duncan

KG

etc

How can you be a top player just being an offensive machine or defensive stopper?

you can't

You most certainly can, for example if your offense is that much better than the league's best defender's defense (which it is) and your team consistently puts up more points than your opponents (which it does) you can be the best player in the league.  Dominance is dominance.

I honestly don't really understand this discussion. One guy has a championship, outplayed Lebron in an finals series, AND is the best player on a team that's currently on pace to break the NBA's win/loss record set by a team that had Michael Jordan and two other hall of famers on it plus Steve Kerr who still holds the highest career 3 point shooting percentage in NBA history at 45.4 %.

The other guy has never been on a team that reached the conference finals and is having his best (statistical) season on a .500 team that likely won't make the playoffs.  What's to compare?

false

Curry had a so so finals.  Brutal in the beginning

[Tr1boy]

Listen ,  curry is a fantastic player.   Right now a bad game for him is the one he played against us. And still scored what 25? 

Still I don't agree he is the best in the league.   I would take Leonard,  Lebron over him without a 2nd thought