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[PhoSita]

How would you guys feel if it was one of the Nets picks not next years and Crowder?

It'd probably take something like that would it not?

It doesn't make much sense for Cleveland to trade Love for a draft pick, even a great one, unless they're giving up on contending this year.  It doesn't make sense for the pick to go to New Orleans, since all they're giving up is Ryan Anderson.

[max215]

How would you guys feel if it was one of the Nets picks not next years and Crowder?

It'd probably take something like that would it not?

I think Danny would say no to that. I'm not even sure he'd give up Crowder for Love.

[crimson_stallion]

Last time he was a #1 option his team won 40 games.

The same was true of Isaiah Thomas heading into this season.

yea seriously he dragged a team with it's next best player being Rubio to 40 wins in the brutal western conference .

How come Wiggins hasn't done it yet? I thought he was the next coming .....

Puh-lease man...

The 2013/14 timberwolves had:

* Kevin Love (26.1 / 12.5 / 4.4)
* Kevin Martin (19.1 / 3 / 2)
* Nikolaa Pekovic (17.5 / 8.7 / 1)
* Corey Brewer (12 /3 /2)
* Ricky Rubio (9.5 / 8.6 / 4.2)
* A half useful bench (Derrick Williams, JJ Barea, Mbah a Moute, Dieng, Shabazz)
* Rick Adelman (one of the NBA's most successful coaches of all time)

By no means is that an elite roster, but it is MORE than enough talent to make it to the playoffs if Love was even HALF the stud people like to believe he is. 

Dwight Howard, Carmelo Anthony, Dwyane Wade, Lebron James, Isaiah Thomas (last year) and many other's have made the playoffs with no more talent than that. 

Hell, last year most of the guys on this board were begging for a chance to trade for Pekovic and Dieng.

Also, please do not tell me that you are trying to compare what Wiggins has achieved in 1 1/2 seasons as a 20 year old prospect, to what Kevin Love was able to achieve in 6 seasons as a veteran "superstar".  I can only assume you're being sarcastic, because that would just be silly.

[KeepRondo]

How would you guys feel if it was one of the Nets picks not next years and Crowder?

It'd probably take something like that would it not?

I think Danny would say no to that. I'm not even sure he'd give up Crowder for Love.

It would be a risk. Love has the potential to have higher value but these guys are so close in current value and then you add in that Crowder only makes 7mil a year.

It's a tough call.

[KeepRondo]

Last time he was a #1 option his team won 40 games.

The same was true of Isaiah Thomas heading into this season.

yea seriously he dragged a team with it's next best player being Rubio to 40 wins in the brutal western conference .

How come Wiggins hasn't done it yet? I thought he was the next coming .....

Puh-lease man...

The 2013/14 timberwolves had:

* Kevin Love (26.1 / 12.5 / 4.4)
* Kevin Martin (19.1 / 3 / 2)
* Nikolaa Pekovic (17.5 / 8.7 / 1)
* Corey Brewer (12 /3 /2)
* Ricky Rubio (9.5 / 8.6 / 4.2)
* A half decent Bench (Derrick Williams, JJ Barea, Mbah a Moute, Dieng, Shabazz)
* Rick Adelman, one of the NBA's All-Time winning-est coaches

Please try to tell me with a straight face that this is not enough talent to be a playoff caliber team? 

Because that is a HELL of a lot more talent than we had last year when we snuck in with the 8th seed.

Hell, last year most of the guys on this board were begging for a chance to trade for Pekovic and Dieng.

Also, please do not tell me that you are trying to compare what Wiggins has achieved in 1 1/2 seasons as a 20 year old prospect, to what Kevin Love was able to achieve in 6 seasons as a veteran "superstar".

You do realize that if you take Love off that team that they would had been a bottom 5 team there.

[j804]

How would you guys feel if it was one of the Nets picks not next years and Crowder?

It'd probably take something like that would it not?

I think Danny would say no to that. I'm not even sure he'd give up Crowder for Love.

It would be a risk. Love has the potential to have higher value but these guys are so close in current value and then you add in that Crowder only makes 7mil a year.

It's a tough call.

It's gonna take something like that, no way we make out with Love for just one pick. It's gonna take another good piece we'd have to part with and doubt it's Bradley

[footey]

I would hate to give up Bradley in a Love trade.  I would rather give up Smart. That will get me killed here, but I said it. Bradley is just as good defensively, and way, way better a shooter. Neither is a play maker.

[CelticSooner]

How would you guys feel if it was one of the Nets picks not next years and Crowder?

It'd probably take something like that would it not?

I think Danny would say no to that. I'm not even sure he'd give up Crowder for Love.

It would be a risk. Love has the potential to have higher value but these guys are so close in current value and then you add in that Crowder only makes 7mil a year.

It's a tough call.

It's gonna take something like that, no way we make out with Love for just one pick. It's gonna take another good piece we'd have to part with and doubt it's Bradley

Not if three teams are involved. It shouldn't take the moon to get this kind of deal done. Just depends on if Cleveland wants to pull the trigger.

[Shamrocker]

No Kelly Olynyk at #Celtics practice. Flight may have been delayed from Canada.

Could be a delay, could be part of a deal....who knows.

https://twitter.com/GwashburnGlobe/status/700107481293324289

[crimson_stallion]

Last time he was a #1 option his team won 40 games.

The same was true of Isaiah Thomas heading into this season.

yea seriously he dragged a team with it's next best player being Rubio to 40 wins in the brutal western conference .

How come Wiggins hasn't done it yet? I thought he was the next coming .....

Puh-lease man...

The 2013/14 timberwolves had:

* Kevin Love (26.1 / 12.5 / 4.4)
* Kevin Martin (19.1 / 3 / 2)
* Nikolaa Pekovic (17.5 / 8.7 / 1)
* Corey Brewer (12 /3 /2)
* Ricky Rubio (9.5 / 8.6 / 4.2)
* A half decent Bench (Derrick Williams, JJ Barea, Mbah a Moute, Dieng, Shabazz)
* Rick Adelman, one of the NBA's All-Time winning-est coaches

Please try to tell me with a straight face that this is not enough talent to be a playoff caliber team? 

Because that is a HELL of a lot more talent than we had last year when we snuck in with the 8th seed.

Hell, last year most of the guys on this board were begging for a chance to trade for Pekovic and Dieng.

Also, please do not tell me that you are trying to compare what Wiggins has achieved in 1 1/2 seasons as a 20 year old prospect, to what Kevin Love was able to achieve in 6 seasons as a veteran "superstar".

You do realize that if you take Love off that team that they would had been a bottom 5 team there.

What if you took Isaiah Thomas off the 2014/15 Boston Celtics, when their second best player was Bradley, aeraging 13.9, 3.1 and 1.8?

What if you took Dwyane Wade off the 2003/04 Miami heat, where the second best player was Lamar Odom, averaging 17.1, 9.7, 4.1?

What if you took Lebron off the 2005/06 Cavs, when the second best player was Ilgauskas, averaging 15.6, 7.6 and 1.2?

What if you took Dwight off the 2006/07 Magic, when their second best player was Hedo Turkoglu averaging 13, 4/ and 3?

All those teams made the playoffs, and Love's last team in Minnesota had no less talent than eny of those teams did.

I don't get why people keep making excuses for the guy.  It's so blatantly obvious that he's no "savior" and that he is not the kind of guy who can carry a team.  There is some 8 years of history backing this fact.   

[TwinTower14]

ESPN Marc stein saying the cavs are going after frye too. They must be flipping love right?

[KeepRondo]

Last time he was a #1 option his team won 40 games.

The same was true of Isaiah Thomas heading into this season.

yea seriously he dragged a team with it's next best player being Rubio to 40 wins in the brutal western conference .

How come Wiggins hasn't done it yet? I thought he was the next coming .....

Puh-lease man...

The 2013/14 timberwolves had:

* Kevin Love (26.1 / 12.5 / 4.4)
* Kevin Martin (19.1 / 3 / 2)
* Nikolaa Pekovic (17.5 / 8.7 / 1)
* Corey Brewer (12 /3 /2)
* Ricky Rubio (9.5 / 8.6 / 4.2)
* A half decent Bench (Derrick Williams, JJ Barea, Mbah a Moute, Dieng, Shabazz)
* Rick Adelman, one of the NBA's All-Time winning-est coaches

Please try to tell me with a straight face that this is not enough talent to be a playoff caliber team? 

Because that is a HELL of a lot more talent than we had last year when we snuck in with the 8th seed.

Hell, last year most of the guys on this board were begging for a chance to trade for Pekovic and Dieng.

Also, please do not tell me that you are trying to compare what Wiggins has achieved in 1 1/2 seasons as a 20 year old prospect, to what Kevin Love was able to achieve in 6 seasons as a veteran "superstar".

You do realize that if you take Love off that team that they would had been a bottom 5 team there.

What if you took Isaiah Thomas off the 2014/15 Boston Celtics, when their second best player was Bradley, aeraging 13.9, 3.1 and 1.8?

What if you took Dwyane Wade off the 2003/04 Miami heat, where the second best player was Lamar Odom, averaging 17.1, 9.7, 4.1?

What if you took Lebron off the 2005/06 Cavs, when the second best player was Ilgauskas, averaging 15.6, 7.6 and 1.2?

What if you took Dwight off the 2006/07 Magic, when their second best player was Hedo Turkoglu averaging 13, 4/ and 3?

All those teams made the playoffs, and Love's last team in Minnesota had no less talent than eny of those teams did.

Those guys all made the playoffs.

You are just being more silly now.

[Jvalin]

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=zy3enm4

Boston
In : Love, Philly 2017 second (via New Orleans)
Out : Bradley, Jerebko, Sully, Boston 2016 first, Dallas 2016 first

Cleveland
In : Bradley, Anderson, Dallas 2016 first (via Boston)
Out : Love

New Orleans
In : Jerebko, Sully, Boston 2016 first
Out : Anderson


Why for New Orleans
http://www.thebirdwrites.com/2016/1/4/10702330/new-orleans-pelicans-wise-target-jared-sullinger-before-trade-deadline-boston-celtics
Pelicans would be wise to target Jared Sullinger before trade deadline

Why for Cleveland
Well, I guess they wanna move on from Love.

Why for us
We get our go-to guy in Love.

[crimson_stallion]

Last time he was a #1 option his team won 40 games.

The same was true of Isaiah Thomas heading into this season.

yea seriously he dragged a team with it's next best player being Rubio to 40 wins in the brutal western conference .

How come Wiggins hasn't done it yet? I thought he was the next coming .....

Puh-lease man...

The 2013/14 timberwolves had:

* Kevin Love (26.1 / 12.5 / 4.4)
* Kevin Martin (19.1 / 3 / 2)
* Nikolaa Pekovic (17.5 / 8.7 / 1)
* Corey Brewer (12 /3 /2)
* Ricky Rubio (9.5 / 8.6 / 4.2)
* A half decent Bench (Derrick Williams, JJ Barea, Mbah a Moute, Dieng, Shabazz)
* Rick Adelman, one of the NBA's All-Time winning-est coaches

Please try to tell me with a straight face that this is not enough talent to be a playoff caliber team? 

Because that is a HELL of a lot more talent than we had last year when we snuck in with the 8th seed.

Hell, last year most of the guys on this board were begging for a chance to trade for Pekovic and Dieng.

Also, please do not tell me that you are trying to compare what Wiggins has achieved in 1 1/2 seasons as a 20 year old prospect, to what Kevin Love was able to achieve in 6 seasons as a veteran "superstar".

You do realize that if you take Love off that team that they would had been a bottom 5 team there.

What if you took Isaiah Thomas off the 2014/15 Boston Celtics, when their second best player was Bradley, aeraging 13.9, 3.1 and 1.8?

What if you took Dwyane Wade off the 2003/04 Miami heat, where the second best player was Lamar Odom, averaging 17.1, 9.7, 4.1?

What if you took Lebron off the 2005/06 Cavs, when the second best player was Ilgauskas, averaging 15.6, 7.6 and 1.2?

What if you took Dwight off the 2006/07 Magic, when their second best player was Hedo Turkoglu averaging 13, 4/ and 3?

All those teams made the playoffs, and Love's last team in Minnesota had no less talent than eny of those teams did.

Those guys all made the playoffs.

You are just being more silly now.

Why am I being silly?

I just don't understand how people are so blinded that they can not see the obvious warning signs here.

1) Love couldn't win a thing in Minnesota, was criticised by his teammates for not being a leader, and the forced his way out by demanding a trade because his team couldn't make the playoffs in 6 years with him as the #1 guy

2) The Cavs trade ANDREW WIGGINS for Kevin Love, give love a $110M contract, and then half a season later decide they are ready to give up on him and trade him for spare parts?

How does this not trigger alarm bells for people? 

You guys just watched Cleveland give up a #1 pick to get Kevin Love off the Wolves, only to give up on him a year and a half later.

Now you want to give up a potential #1 pick to get Kevin Love from the Cavs? 

Does nobody see the irony here, nor the potential for history to repeat itself?

[rondohondo]

Cleveland’s growing interest in New Orleans’ Ryan Anderson bodes well in Boston’s seemingly never-ending quest to acquire Kevin Love in what’s shaping up to be a potential three-team deal that would include the Boston Celtics. The particulars of the deal are still in the discussion phase, but the end result if it comes to pass would send Love to Boston, according to a league source.
– via CSNNE.com