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Re: 2016 draft pick tracker
« Reply #90 on: March 23, 2016, 09:18:37 AM »

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Brooklyn is now tied with Phoenix for the #3 worst record. They're safely ahead of Phill and Los Angeles but 3 games behind Minnesota. With 11 games left, it would be quite a feat to make up 3 games on the Timberwolves. I feel good about having a top 4 pick. The lottery luck has got to change some day, doesn't it?
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Re: 2016 draft pick tracker
« Reply #91 on: March 23, 2016, 09:24:50 AM »

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had a few moments to look at the schedule through next Sunday to see how the teams that impact our draft slots may do.  came up with the following projections
Atlanta 2-0
Boston 1-1
Brooklyn 0-3
Charlotte 2-1
Chicago 3-0
Dallas 1-2
Detroit 2-1
Houston 1-3
Indiana 3-0
Memphis 1-1
Miami 1-1
Phoenix 1-2
Portland 2-1
Utah 1-2
Washington 2-1

doesn't look like Utah will finally close that gap with Dallas.
Phx looks like it should overtake Nets to get Brooklyn back into the 3rd slot
Boston looks like it will settle into more of the pack.
well, pegged 3 out of 4 games right last night.  who'd have figured the Grizz losing to the Lakers.   while it doesn't hurt the Dallas pick and it doesn't impact Boston's playoff spot, it does hurt the C's draft slot.
Honestly I expect to see us a few games ahead of the Grizz by season's end. Especially if we want that 3rd seed and home court advantage. I think that's got to be deemed more important thatn a 3 place jump in the draft. After all we have a lot of draft picks to use if we want to move up a few spots!

Re: 2016 draft pick tracker
« Reply #92 on: March 23, 2016, 07:58:46 PM »

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had a few moments to look at the schedule through next Sunday to see how the teams that impact our draft slots may do.  came up with the following projections
Atlanta 2-0
Boston 1-1
Brooklyn 0-3
Charlotte 2-1
Chicago 3-0
Dallas 1-2
Detroit 2-1
Houston 1-3
Indiana 3-0
Memphis 1-1
Miami 1-1
Phoenix 1-2
Portland 2-1
Utah 1-2
Washington 2-1

doesn't look like Utah will finally close that gap with Dallas.
Phx looks like it should overtake Nets to get Brooklyn back into the 3rd slot
Boston looks like it will settle into more of the pack.
well, pegged 3 out of 4 games right last night.  who'd have figured the Grizz losing to the Lakers.   while it doesn't hurt the Dallas pick and it doesn't impact Boston's playoff spot, it does hurt the C's draft slot.
Honestly I expect to see us a few games ahead of the Grizz by season's end. Especially if we want that 3rd seed and home court advantage. I think that's got to be deemed more important thatn a 3 place jump in the draft. After all we have a lot of draft picks to use if we want to move up a few spots!
Memphis is missing its top players so that's possible.   however, they are playing in the weaker conference and the C's have a tough last 11 games to close out the season.

Re: 2016 draft pick tracker
« Reply #93 on: March 27, 2016, 10:46:14 AM »

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Fkn Nets winning their last 2 games really screwed us. They could now reasonably finish 5th. I don't think they'll jump ahead of the Suns but they could still tie them. This sux ass. I was all hopeful about 4 days ago that Brooklyn would finish 3rd. Now they may finish 5th. Good thing the Pelicans schedule is littered with all the bottom feeders.

Re: 2016 draft pick tracker
« Reply #94 on: March 27, 2016, 10:53:06 AM »

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Fkn Nets winning their last 2 games really screwed us. They could now reasonably finish 5th. I don't think they'll jump ahead of the Suns but they could still tie them. This sux ass. I was all hopeful about 4 days ago that Brooklyn would finish 3rd. Now they may finish 5th. Good thing the Pelicans schedule is littered with all the bottom feeders.

it all means nothing really but a few percentage points... has the lottery ever went in order? Plus conspiracy theories would be in Bostons favor as they are a young strong team that would really reclaim the east with a Simmons, Ingram, or Hield pick..

Re: 2016 draft pick tracker
« Reply #95 on: March 27, 2016, 06:06:57 PM »

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Fkn Nets winning their last 2 games really screwed us. They could now reasonably finish 5th. I don't think they'll jump ahead of the Suns but they could still tie them. This sux ass. I was all hopeful about 4 days ago that Brooklyn would finish 3rd. Now they may finish 5th. Good thing the Pelicans schedule is littered with all the bottom feeders.
Brooklyn is still 2.5 games behind (in front of?) Minnesota. I feel pretty safe that Brooklyn ends up with the 4th worst record. It'd be great if Phoenix started winning a bunch and overtook the Nets but I don't really see that. Nor do I see Brooklyn playing .500 ball all of a sudden and Minny going 0-10 to close it out.
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Re: 2016 draft pick tracker
« Reply #96 on: March 28, 2016, 09:43:26 AM »

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Fkn Nets winning their last 2 games really screwed us. They could now reasonably finish 5th. I don't think they'll jump ahead of the Suns but they could still tie them. This sux ass. I was all hopeful about 4 days ago that Brooklyn would finish 3rd. Now they may finish 5th. Good thing the Pelicans schedule is littered with all the bottom feeders.
Brooklyn is still 2.5 games behind (in front of?) Minnesota. I feel pretty safe that Brooklyn ends up with the 4th worst record. It'd be great if Phoenix started winning a bunch and overtook the Nets but I don't really see that. Nor do I see Brooklyn playing .500 ball all of a sudden and Minny going 0-10 to close it out.
Agreed - no way Brooklyn catches Minny for 5th when Minny has 3 more wins with 10 games to go for Brooklyn.  Brooklyn would have to go 3-7 in their last 10 and Minny would have to go 0-9 the rest of the way just for them to tie.  no way that's happening.

Re: 2016 draft pick tracker
« Reply #97 on: March 28, 2016, 09:59:50 AM »

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link to last year's draft pick tracker
http://forums.celticsblog.com/index.php?topic=75437.0

Standings as of 3/28/16 -- will try to update weekly

Nets pick -- #4 
              Games Behind    Current Wins     Games Left    Last 10
Minnesota         +2.5                      24                     9                 4-6   
Brooklyn           --                        21                10                  3-7
Phoenix             -1.5                       20                     9                 3-7

--> PHX back to sucking while Nets inexplicably win their last 2.  Just know that cosmic karma will bump their pick to #1 or 2 post draft no matter where the Nets finally end up.

Boston Pick #23 (tied with Memphis) 

            Games Behind    Current Wins     Games Left    Last 10
Atlanta              +.5                     44                      8                 8-2
Boston          ---                         43                  9                  5-5
Miami                -.5                      42                     10                6-4
Charlotte           -1                       42                     9                 7-3
Memphis           -2                       41                     9                 3-7

--> C's gained a bit this week.  Still can slid a few spots on this west coast trip.

Dallas Pick #12-- (protected if in top 7)

                Games Behind    Current Wins   Games Left   Last 10
===========Eastern Conference Playoff cutoff==============
Portland             +2.5                     38                     8                 5-5
Chicago             +1.5                     36                    10                 4-6
Utah                   +1                        36                     9                 7-3
Washington        +1                        36                     9                 6-4
Houston              +.5                      36                     8                 4-6
===========Western Conference Playoff cutoff==============
Dallas               ----                     35                     9                 2-8


-->FINALLY.  Dallas is out of the playoffs, for now.  I won't project this is the end simply because Utah and Houston haven't been world beaters this season and Houston could very well continue to struggle even with this new breath of life of getting to the playoffs.  #12 is our best case scenario.   The next team after them is Denver who's 4.5 games back--even though Denver is playing better and Dallas has been playing poorly, that's too many games to optimistically make up in such a short timeframe.

Second Rounders:
Philly - #31
Minnesota (if 1st isn't conveyed) - #35
Dallas (better of Dallas or Memphis) - #42
Miami - #52
Cleveland - #58


2016
first rounders
Boston
Brooklyn
Dallas (protected 1-7)
Minnesota (protected 1-12)

Second rounders
Cleveland
Philly
Miami
Best of Dallas/Memphis
Minnesota (if 1st not conveyed)

Re: 2016 draft pick tracker
« Reply #98 on: March 28, 2016, 12:22:21 PM »

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Thank you as always for the update.

I'm thrilled to see Dallas fall faster and farther than I ever would have imagined a few weeks ago. Would love to end up with the 12th or 13th draft pick from them. I'm still nervous, though, since their schedule is about to get very easy. We need everything to break right with Houston (eight games remaining) and Utah (nine games remaining). Houston's next three are Cleveland, Chicago, OKC. Dallas's are Denver, the Knicks and Detroit (followed by Minnesota and home against Houston). True, their last three are against LAC, Utah and San Antonio, but LAC and SAS have their spots pretty much locked up. No reason to risk injuries. If Houston can stay ahead of Dallas for the next four games (including @Dallas; series season 2-1 in favor of Houston as of now), I'll feel much better, since they end with Phoenix, LAL, Minnesota and Sacramento. None of those teams has a reason to win and, in fact, the first three have good reasons to lose.

Utah still has Golden State, San Antonio and the Clippers, but every one of the rest of their games looks winnable, including two against the lakers, Minny, Phoenix and the Dallas/Denver combo. They are 1-1 versus Dallas this season, so that game @Utah will be huge.

Fkn Nets winning their last 2 games really screwed us. They could now reasonably finish 5th. I don't think they'll jump ahead of the Suns but they could still tie them. This sux ass. I was all hopeful about 4 days ago that Brooklyn would finish 3rd. Now they may finish 5th. Good thing the Pelicans schedule is littered with all the bottom feeders.
Brooklyn is still 2.5 games behind (in front of?) Minnesota. I feel pretty safe that Brooklyn ends up with the 4th worst record. It'd be great if Phoenix started winning a bunch and overtook the Nets but I don't really see that. Nor do I see Brooklyn playing .500 ball all of a sudden and Minny going 0-10 to close it out.
Agreed - no way Brooklyn catches Minny for 5th when Minny has 3 more wins with 10 games to go for Brooklyn.  Brooklyn would have to go 3-7 in their last 10 and Minny would have to go 0-9 the rest of the way just for them to tie.  no way that's happening.

It looks bad for BKN, but I'm not ready to declare victory yet. Over their last ten games, they have games against Orlando, NYK, New Orleans, 2XWashington and the last game of the season is against Toronto, who will be resting players. The rest of the schedule is Miami, Cleveland, Charlotte and Indiana. There are a bunch of winnable games in there. I can see them going 5-5 or 4-6.

Minnesota, on the other hand, has the Clippers, Utah, Dallas, Golden State, Portland and Houston. Even the average teams in that group are going to be fighting for playoff spots. Their remaining games are Phx, Sac and NO. The last three are winnable. But there's only a 2.5 game spread between them and BKN. Minnesota has no reason to win. If they go 2-7 or 1-8, we are in coin flip territory.

Having said that, here's where I'm probably wrong:

1) In the entire history of CelticsBlog, I'm not sure one of my long-term predictions has ever been correct.
2) While BKN may have an easy schedule in terms of who they play, the calendar and geography are not good to them. They are about to start four road games in five nights, even if one of those "road" games is the Knicks. And seriously, if you're the coach of BKN and you have zero chance of getting into the playoffs, which of these two paths do you follow: A) Rest your injury-prone, can't-lose veterans so you can get a good look at your only young players for the next three years in low-pressure games, or the opposite?

I think we're looking at BKN as the 4th worst team this year. Had you promised me that at the beginning of the season, I would have happily accepted.

Mike

Re: 2016 draft pick tracker
« Reply #99 on: March 28, 2016, 01:18:08 PM »

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Thank you as always for the update.

I'm thrilled to see Dallas fall faster and farther than I ever would have imagined a few weeks ago. Would love to end up with the 12th or 13th draft pick from them. I'm still nervous, though, since their schedule is about to get very easy. We need everything to break right with Houston (eight games remaining) and Utah (nine games remaining). Houston's next three are Cleveland, Chicago, OKC. Dallas's are Denver, the Knicks and Detroit (followed by Minnesota and home against Houston). True, their last three are against LAC, Utah and San Antonio, but LAC and SAS have their spots pretty much locked up. No reason to risk injuries. If Houston can stay ahead of Dallas for the next four games (including @Dallas; series season 2-1 in favor of Houston as of now), I'll feel much better, since they end with Phoenix, LAL, Minnesota and Sacramento. None of those teams has a reason to win and, in fact, the first three have good reasons to lose.

Utah still has Golden State, San Antonio and the Clippers, but every one of the rest of their games looks winnable, including two against the lakers, Minny, Phoenix and the Dallas/Denver combo. They are 1-1 versus Dallas this season, so that game @Utah will be huge.

Fkn Nets winning their last 2 games really screwed us. They could now reasonably finish 5th. I don't think they'll jump ahead of the Suns but they could still tie them. This sux ass. I was all hopeful about 4 days ago that Brooklyn would finish 3rd. Now they may finish 5th. Good thing the Pelicans schedule is littered with all the bottom feeders.
Brooklyn is still 2.5 games behind (in front of?) Minnesota. I feel pretty safe that Brooklyn ends up with the 4th worst record. It'd be great if Phoenix started winning a bunch and overtook the Nets but I don't really see that. Nor do I see Brooklyn playing .500 ball all of a sudden and Minny going 0-10 to close it out.
Agreed - no way Brooklyn catches Minny for 5th when Minny has 3 more wins with 10 games to go for Brooklyn.  Brooklyn would have to go 3-7 in their last 10 and Minny would have to go 0-9 the rest of the way just for them to tie.  no way that's happening.

It looks bad for BKN, but I'm not ready to declare victory yet. Over their last ten games, they have games against Orlando, NYK, New Orleans, 2XWashington and the last game of the season is against Toronto, who will be resting players. The rest of the schedule is Miami, Cleveland, Charlotte and Indiana. There are a bunch of winnable games in there. I can see them going 5-5 or 4-6.

Minnesota, on the other hand, has the Clippers, Utah, Dallas, Golden State, Portland and Houston. Even the average teams in that group are going to be fighting for playoff spots. Their remaining games are Phx, Sac and NO. The last three are winnable. But there's only a 2.5 game spread between them and BKN. Minnesota has no reason to win. If they go 2-7 or 1-8, we are in coin flip territory.

Having said that, here's where I'm probably wrong:

1) In the entire history of CelticsBlog, I'm not sure one of my long-term predictions has ever been correct.
2) While BKN may have an easy schedule in terms of who they play, the calendar and geography are not good to them. They are about to start four road games in five nights, even if one of those "road" games is the Knicks. And seriously, if you're the coach of BKN and you have zero chance of getting into the playoffs, which of these two paths do you follow: A) Rest your injury-prone, can't-lose veterans so you can get a good look at your only young players for the next three years in low-pressure games, or the opposite?

I think we're looking at BKN as the 4th worst team this year. Had you promised me that at the beginning of the season, I would have happily accepted.

Mike
tbh, I've been saying Brooklyn would give us a top 5 pick since last summer so I'm pretty content with where they are --> sitting in fourth with an outside shot at top 3 and a longshot to drop to 5.  They're basically where I'd figured they'd be.  Dallas and C's have outperformed what I thought they'd do this season.  As far as the C's go, that's terrific.  Dallas, not so much.  had them initially pegged between 8-12.   if they hadn't started the season unexpectedly hot, I'd be much more on the money with that prediction.

Re: 2016 draft pick tracker
« Reply #100 on: March 28, 2016, 01:38:01 PM »

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I had Dallas as 12-15. That may be the only one I get right. Had no idea what BKN would do or just how bad they'd be. I think a lot of us were assuming that Lopez would spend some time on the sidelines, even if we didn't build it into our projections.

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Re: 2016 draft pick tracker
« Reply #101 on: March 29, 2016, 08:12:54 AM »

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I had Dallas as 12-15. That may be the only one I get right. Had no idea what BKN would do or just how bad they'd be. I think a lot of us were assuming that Lopez would spend some time on the sidelines, even if we didn't build it into our projections.

Mike
they're really bad and that's without Lopez missing time.  if he'd been out for about 15 games (which seemed to be that average expectation) for any part of the season the Net would be challenging the Lakers for second worst record and we'd be pooh-poohing the idea of them catching the Suns for 4th

Re: 2016 draft pick tracker
« Reply #102 on: March 29, 2016, 08:23:59 AM »

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forecasting ahead, this is what I think will happen through next weekend to the team's relevant to the draft picks:

Atlanta 0-2
Boston 1-2  (really feeling they'll lose all 3 games but will go with them against the Lakers)
Charlotte  2-1
Miami 3-0
-->gain ground on Atlanta but not enough to catch them in the standings.  Lose ground to Hornets and Heat in the standings.  Good for pick, not so much for playoff seeding.

Chicago  1-3
Dallas 2-1
Houston 1-2
Utah 2-1
Washington 2-2
-->Dallas probably passes Houston in the standings to get back in the playoffs.  bummer on that front.  seem to gain ground on the teams in the East that would push their pick lower if they miss the playoffs.  another bummer.

Brooklyn 1-3
Phx 0-3
-->Brooklyn probably puts the nail in the coffin for dropping to the 3rd slot going into the lottery.  by next week we'll likely have to "console" ourselves with the #4 going into the lottery.

Re: 2016 draft pick tracker
« Reply #103 on: March 29, 2016, 08:56:23 AM »

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BKN about to play the 2nd game of "4 in 5 nights." Really hoping they lose all 4. Yes, I know I have a stake in the outcome, but I still don't see how you play Lopez all four games.

Disappointed in the Dallas win last night, but I have to admit, all the different possible outcomes make that race a heck of a lot of fun to watch.

Mike

Re: 2016 draft pick tracker
« Reply #104 on: April 04, 2016, 08:53:35 AM »

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link to last year's draft pick tracker
http://forums.celticsblog.com/index.php?topic=75437.0

Standings as of 4/4/16 -- will try to update weekly

Nets pick -- #4 
              Games Behind    Current Wins     Games Left    Last 10
Brooklyn           --                        21                5                  2-8
Phoenix              -1                        20                     5                 2-8

--> Dropped Minny from the list.  4 games up on Brooklyn with 5 to play.  only team that could alter the Brooklyn slot is Phoenix.  even with Lopez and Young sitting, I'm not sure Phx catches Brooklyn in the time remaining.

Boston Pick #23 (tied with Atlanta) 

            Games Behind    Current Wins     Games Left    Last 10
Atlanta              even                     45                   5                 7-3
Boston          ---                         45                   5                  6-4
Miami                -.5                        44                    6                 6-4
Charlotte           -.5                        44                     6                7-3

--> C's are now down to this 4-team pocket -- all in the Eastern conference.  The 3-6 seeds in the East are going to be a dogfight down the stretch.  pick will end somewhere between 21-24.  Using previous 10 games as a speculation tool, C's would end up in 5th behind Atlanta and Charlotte and ahead of Miami.  per speculation on an unreliable stat.   would end up with pick 22

Dallas Pick #15-- (protected if in top 7)  Tied with Utah

                Games Behind    Current Wins   Games Left   Last 10
Memphis            +2                        41                     5                 2-8
Indiana               +2                        41                     5                 5-5
Detroit                +2                        41                     5                 7-3
===========Eastern Conference Playoff cutoff==============
Portland             +1.5                     41                     4                 6-4
Utah                   even                    39                     5                 7-3
Dallas               ----                     39                     5                 5-5
===========Western Conference Playoff cutoff==============
Chicago             even                     39                     5                 5-5
Houston              -1                         38                     5                 4-6
Washington        -2                         37                     5                 5-5

-->Ugh.  Dallas back in the playoffs.  knew it wouldn't last.  Chicago's tie with Dallas but since Dallas is in the playoffs, they jump up to the 15th spot due to being in different conferences.  only a handful of games left but there's so many teams that Dallas can pass (up or down) with a hot or cold streak.  using previous 10 games to speculate the end of the season, Dallas probably gets in the playoffs as the 8th seed giving us the 15th pick.

Second Rounders:
Philly - #31
Minnesota (if 1st isn't conveyed) - #35
Dallas (better of Dallas or Memphis) - #46
Miami - #51
Cleveland - #58


2016
first rounders
Boston
Brooklyn
Dallas (protected 1-7)
Minnesota (protected 1-12)

Second rounders
Cleveland
Philly
Miami
Best of Dallas/Memphis
Minnesota (if 1st not conveyed)