KO's upside

[hwangjini_1]

Kelly is what he is.  A really useful offensive weapon to have on the bench, better defensively than you'd expect, do a lot of little things to help the team win.  Don't worry about getting more than that out of him.  He'll have big games sometimes.  He's not a go-to option.

this is very much in line with what i thought was olly's future, save i never thought his defense would become what it did. and it is his improvement on defense that makes me hesitant to say he would never be a go-to option.

with CBS as his coach olly might exceed my expectations on both ends of the floor. chances are you are correct, but i just dont quite have the same level of confidence in my prediction that i once had.

[PhoSita]

I think he has a little Brad Miller in him, maybe not as physical but more mobile.

I could see that. 

[jpotter33]

19 PPG, 8 RPG, 4 APG, .450/.385/.850 as an All Star starting power forward on a title contender. 

I think that's his upside.  I hope to see him get there.

I don't know if you're being satirical or not, but I really don't think this is far off from his ceiling. In the right system with the right players around him, I think he is definitely capable of something close to this.

[Tr1boy]

I think he has a little Brad Miller in him, maybe not as physical but more mobile.

I could see that.

I said Brad Miller before also. But Brad was a better rebounder and shot blocker. Just much tougher underneath the basket. 

Kelly has a touch more skills out on the perimeter and better agility on the defensive end

[PhoSita]

I think he has a little Brad Miller in him, maybe not as physical but more mobile.

I could see that.

I said Brad Miller before also. But Brad was a better rebounder and shot blocker. Just much tougher underneath the basket. 

Kelly has a touch more skills out on the perimeter and better agility on the defensive end

Kinda like a cross between Scola and Brad Miller.

I like to think of him as Josh McRoberts with a lot more scoring ability.

[Evantime34]

19 PPG, 8 RPG, 4 APG, .450/.385/.850 as an All Star starting power forward on a title contender. 

I think that's his upside.  I hope to see him get there.

I agree with these numbers but I'm not sure that would get him in the all star game.

I'd love to see him get a chance to play 28-30 minutes a game consistently.

[tarheelsxxiii]

19 PPG, 8 RPG, 4 APG, .450/.385/.850 as an All Star starting power forward on a title contender. 

I think that's his upside.  I hope to see him get there.

Don't care for the player comparisons being thrown around, but agree with this. To be fair to others, it's hard to compare him to other guys because what he brings offensively is so unique.  Just has to find his consistent inner Klynyk to make us all happy campers.

[esel1000]

19 PPG, 8 RPG, 4 APG, .450/.385/.850 as an All Star starting power forward on a title contender. 

I think that's his upside.  I hope to see him get there.

Don't care for the player comparisons being thrown around, but agree with this. To be fair to others, it's hard to compare him to other guys because what he brings offensively is so unique.  Just has to find his consistent inner Klynyk to make us all happy campers.

Dude needs to change his mindset to get to that point... as in never pump fake again and actually play angry every game. I don't see KO ever averaging those numbers but maybe I'll be wrong and I hope I am. He is definitely better than what he's averaging now though

[tarheelsxxiii]

19 PPG, 8 RPG, 4 APG, .450/.385/.850 as an All Star starting power forward on a title contender. 

I think that's his upside.  I hope to see him get there.

Don't care for the player comparisons being thrown around, but agree with this. To be fair to others, it's hard to compare him to other guys because what he brings offensively is so unique.  Just has to find his consistent inner Klynyk to make us all happy campers.

Dude needs to change his mindset to get to that point... as in never pump fake again and actually play angry every game. I don't see KO ever averaging those numbers but maybe I'll be wrong and I hope I am. He is definitely better than what he's averaging now though

I agree, he has a long way to go. I imagine many of us become so frustrated with him because of his perceived upside, though. This was meant to be a ceiling projection, unless I am mistaken? If it was, seems like a feasible ceiling given his skill set and the glimpses that he has shown. Whether he reaches it, I've no clue... but he has made nice strides this year.

[jpotter33]

19 PPG, 8 RPG, 4 APG, .450/.385/.850 as an All Star starting power forward on a title contender. 

I think that's his upside.  I hope to see him get there.

Don't care for the player comparisons being thrown around, but agree with this. To be fair to others, it's hard to compare him to other guys because what he brings offensively is so unique.  Just has to find his consistent inner Klynyk to make us all happy campers.

Dude needs to change his mindset to get to that point... as in never pump fake again and actually play angry every game. I don't see KO ever averaging those numbers but maybe I'll be wrong and I hope I am. He is definitely better than what he's averaging now though

I agree, he has a long way to go. I imagine many of us become so frustrated with him because of his perceived upside, though. This was meant to be a ceiling projection, unless I am mistaken? If it was, seems like a feasible ceiling given his skill set and the glimpses that he has shown. Whether he reaches it, I've no clue... but he has made nice strides this year.

He's only playing around 19 minutes a game right now, which is really suprising. His per 36 numbers are actually pretty close to that projection: 17.8, 7.3, 3.0, 2.2, 1.3. The question is whether or not he'll ever be able to play more than 30+ minutes a game with the way he picks up fouls.

[tarheelsxxiii]

19 PPG, 8 RPG, 4 APG, .450/.385/.850 as an All Star starting power forward on a title contender. 

I think that's his upside.  I hope to see him get there.

Don't care for the player comparisons being thrown around, but agree with this. To be fair to others, it's hard to compare him to other guys because what he brings offensively is so unique.  Just has to find his consistent inner Klynyk to make us all happy campers.

Dude needs to change his mindset to get to that point... as in never pump fake again and actually play angry every game. I don't see KO ever averaging those numbers but maybe I'll be wrong and I hope I am. He is definitely better than what he's averaging now though

I agree, he has a long way to go. I imagine many of us become so frustrated with him because of his perceived upside, though. This was meant to be a ceiling projection, unless I am mistaken? If it was, seems like a feasible ceiling given his skill set and the glimpses that he has shown. Whether he reaches it, I've no clue... but he has made nice strides this year.

He's only playing around 19 minutes a game right now, which is really suprising. His per 36 numbers are actually pretty close to that projection: 17.8, 7.3, 3.0, 2.2, 1.3. The question is whether or not he'll ever be able to play more than 30+ minutes a game with the way he picks up fouls.

He's had a good month, averaging 24 mpg, 16.5, 4, 2, 1, 1. Foul trouble doesn't seem to have limited him in any game but SA (5 in 12 mins - obv absurd). May be becoming less of a problem, though the inconsistency is probably still an issue going forward. Imagine if he knew he had an opportunity to snag 30 mins/game, he may be more careful on the defensive end. Doesn't strike me as a dumb player... more of the opposite (stuck in his head), wouldn't you say?

[Celtics18]

Kelly is what he is.  A really useful offensive weapon to have on the bench, better defensively than you'd expect, does a lot of little things to help the team win.  Don't worry about getting more than that out of him.  He'll have big games sometimes. He's not a go-to option.

Not currently, but he absolutely has the skills to be one.  He seems to be getting closer from a confidence perspective.  I still have high hopes. 

[Celtics18]

19 PPG, 8 RPG, 4 APG, .450/.385/.850 as an All Star starting power forward on a title contender. 

I think that's his upside.  I hope to see him get there.

I don't know if you're being satirical or not, but I really don't think this is far off from his ceiling. In the right system with the right players around him, I think he is definitely capable of something close to this.

Absolutely not satire. 

[jpotter33]

19 PPG, 8 RPG, 4 APG, .450/.385/.850 as an All Star starting power forward on a title contender. 

I think that's his upside.  I hope to see him get there.

Don't care for the player comparisons being thrown around, but agree with this. To be fair to others, it's hard to compare him to other guys because what he brings offensively is so unique.  Just has to find his consistent inner Klynyk to make us all happy campers.

Dude needs to change his mindset to get to that point... as in never pump fake again and actually play angry every game. I don't see KO ever averaging those numbers but maybe I'll be wrong and I hope I am. He is definitely better than what he's averaging now though

I agree, he has a long way to go. I imagine many of us become so frustrated with him because of his perceived upside, though. This was meant to be a ceiling projection, unless I am mistaken? If it was, seems like a feasible ceiling given his skill set and the glimpses that he has shown. Whether he reaches it, I've no clue... but he has made nice strides this year.

He's only playing around 19 minutes a game right now, which is really suprising. His per 36 numbers are actually pretty close to that projection: 17.8, 7.3, 3.0, 2.2, 1.3. The question is whether or not he'll ever be able to play more than 30+ minutes a game with the way he picks up fouls.

He's had a good month, averaging 24 mpg, 16.5, 4, 2, 1, 1. Foul trouble doesn't seem to have limited him in any game but SA (5 in 12 mins - obv absurd). May be becoming less of a problem, though the inconsistency is probably still an issue going forward. Imagine if he knew he had an opportunity to snag 30 mins/game, he may be more careful on the defensive end. Doesn't strike me as a dumb player... more of the opposite (stuck in his head), wouldn't you say?

For sure. I could definitely see how he'd be a little conditioned to being foul-prone since he's used to fewer minutes, too. I really would like to see him in larger minutes, because I like him long-term compared to Sully.

[flybono]

He has no inside game, none. Until he can be a force in the block at both ends, he's irrelevant. There are a hundred guys with his skill set at the moment..

The problem is being one dimensional. When the shots don't fall he gives you very little..

ok, i'll bite. please provide us with a list that (1) is remotely close to 100, and, (2) includes players with his skill sets in shooting, scoring, assists, and defense...and of course some stats to back all this up would be very appreciated.

without the above, your loyal readers can only assume you pulled this out of your butt. 

oh and on the bolded point above on olly having no inside game, last season olly made 258 baskets. of those, 161 were from in the paint. that means 62.4% of his baskets were inside.

http://vorped.com/1-nba/2014-2015/player/1573/kelly-olynyk/shotchart/

Stats don't mean --- no masked profanity please
He plays small and has no inside game with his back to the basket..

Serviceable yes, championship piece? I don't think so.

If he had a little COakley in him, now you got something