Official 2015-16 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (21-59, 3rd slot as of 4/12)

[alldaboston]

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[JSD]

Man what a bummer. [dang] you Lopez!

[KeepRondo]

Brook Lopez probably kept us from Ben Simmons this year.  Dude is legit.

He didn't take them to 35-40 wins though.

Nope.  Health derailed the team.  Pretty much no depth there at this point.  Despite losing 2 of their best players to injuries and another being bought out, they've still managed to go 6-6 out of their last 12.

Luckily at this point they are in such a hole that even if they go .500 for the remainder of the season we're getting a pick in the top 6 most likely.

are you sure

[libermaniac]

Wolves can't play any D. They will end up worse than the Nets. So we now went from the third pick to the fifth pick in the last 3 weeks. What team is next. The Nuggets?

I think tomorrow's game will decide it. If Minny is up 2 games after tomorrow things will be much better than tied. The Nets have 3 winnable games next week and then a hard schedule. Minny has a lot of winnable games down the stretch. Unreal how Looez never misses a game when we need him to. This stinks.

[SCeltic34]

Brook Lopez probably kept us from Ben Simmons this year.  Dude is legit.

He didn't take them to 35-40 wins though.

Nope.  Health derailed the team.  Pretty much no depth there at this point.  Despite losing 2 of their starters to injuries and another being bought out, they've still managed to go 6-6 out of their last 12.

Luckily at this point they are in such a hole that even if they go .500 for the remainder of the season we're getting a pick in the top 6 most likely.

Right, because Jarrett Jack and RHJ were the difference between a 25 win team and a 35-40 win team.

Lack of depth was a precise reason why many of us slated BKN to be a sub-30 win team before the season even started. 

[Vox_Populi]

Brook Lopez probably kept us from Ben Simmons this year.  Dude is legit.

He didn't take them to 35-40 wins though.

Don't forget that they may have a similar record to the Celtics.

And that Thad Young and Joe Johnson are better than Thomas.

[KeepRondo]

Wolves can't play any D. They will end up worse than the Nets. So we now went from the third pick to the fifth pick in the last 3 weeks. What team is next. The Nuggets?

I think tomorrow's game will decide it. If Minny is up 2 games after tomorrow things will be much better than tied. The Nets have 3 winnable games next week and then a hard schedule. Minny has a lot of winnable games down the stretch. Unreal how Looez never misses a game when we need him to. This stinks.

I was told by many many posters that the Nets would only win like 3 of these winnable games. They got 6 and still going.

I don't believe you either. Wolves look awful right now. They played good ball for a couple weeks and now they stopped playing D.

WT Heck.

[KeepRondo]

Liars!   

[libermaniac]

Wolves can't play any D. They will end up worse than the Nets. So we now went from the third pick to the fifth pick in the last 3 weeks. What team is next. The Nuggets?

I think tomorrow's game will decide it. If Minny is up 2 games after tomorrow things will be much better than tied. The Nets have 3 winnable games next week and then a hard schedule. Minny has a lot of winnable games down the stretch. Unreal how Looez never misses a game when we need him to. This stinks.

I was told by many many posters that the Nets would only win like 3 of these winnable games. They got 6 and still going.

I don't believe you either. Wolves look awful right now. They played good ball for a couple weeks and now they stopped playing D.

WT Heck.

The Nets are doing exactly as I thought on this trip. It's a very easy stretch and I've been concerned about it. Still am. But if Minny somehow wins tomorrow things look much better. They still have 2 with the Suns and host Sacto and NO.

[SCeltic34]

Brook Lopez probably kept us from Ben Simmons this year.  Dude is legit.

He didn't take them to 35-40 wins though.

Don't forget that they may have a similar record to the Celtics.

And that Thad Young and Joe Johnson are better than Thomas.

I'm not sure I understand  the first line.  We have 20 more wins at this point with 19 games left.  Brooklyn isn't going to have a win total anywhere near ours.

Neither Young or Johnson are better than IT.  Not even close.  Young is a career subpar rebounder whose numbers are inflated because everyone else on that team other than Robinson is a poor rebounder.  Good player around the rim, but predominantly left handed and can't stretch the floor effectively.  JJ is the biggest ball-stopper in the league and isn't anywhere near the player he was in his prime.

[LarBrd33]

Brook Lopez probably kept us from Ben Simmons this year.  Dude is legit.

He didn't take them to 35-40 wins though.

Nope.  Health derailed the team.  Pretty much no depth there at this point.  Despite losing 2 of their best players to injuries and another being bought out, they've still managed to go 6-6 out of their last 12.

Luckily at this point they are in such a hole that even if they go .500 for the remainder of the season we're getting a pick in the top 6 most likely.

are you sure

Pretty sure... there is only 20 games left in the season.  They have been playing .500 ball over the past 12 games.  If they manage to go .500 for for the remainder of the season, they'll only finish with 28 wins... which is 7 games short of the 35-40 they would have won had they remained healthy.   28 wins would be a .341 win percentage... which would likely put them 6th between the Timberwolves and Pelicans.   And given how riddled that team is with injuries/buyouts, it's actually conceivable they'll finish with a worst record than that.  Depth is a massive issue for them regardless of teams rolling over during the silly season of the final two months.

What an amazing season for us.  Great time to be a Celtic fan.   

[LarBrd33]

Brook Lopez probably kept us from Ben Simmons this year.  Dude is legit.

He didn't take them to 35-40 wins though.

Nope.  Health derailed the team.  Pretty much no depth there at this point.  Despite losing 2 of their starters to injuries and another being bought out, they've still managed to go 6-6 out of their last 12.

Luckily at this point they are in such a hole that even if they go .500 for the remainder of the season we're getting a pick in the top 6 most likely.

Right, because Jarrett Jack and RHJ were the difference between a 25 win team and a 35-40 win team.

Lack of depth was a precise reason why many of us slated BKN to be a sub-30 win team before the season even started.

I completely agreed that lack of depth was a possible issue for them.  That's why I always acknowledged that they'd win less than 35 games if they didn't stay healthy.  A team like that can't afford to lose their starting PG + their best 2 way player (RHJ top in defensive and offensive rating) + lose their starting SG/SF to buyout.  If your team is only a handful of players deep and you lose 2-3 of those players, you're gonna have a bad time.  And now just as I expected, decimated by injuries and a shattered depth chart, Brooklyn's best case scenario appears to be a mere 28 wins if they manage to keep up this .500 win pace... which luckily for us will most likely be a Top 6 pick. 

Before the season there was a few times where I pointed out that everyone's projections seemed to be based on the idea that the Nets would definitely get injured.  I understood that and acknowledged it, but I tend not to make my predictions based on the expectation that a team will definitely be riddled with injuries.  I didn't want to count on them getting hurt... it seemed to be in poor taste.  Turns out, the widely expected injuries happened, depth became a massive issue, and Brooklyn didn't find any semblence of a grove until recently... luckily for us, it's way too late.  The damage is done.  The pick is a lock for the lotto.  Wonderful time to be a Celtic fan.  Here's hoping they struggle down the stretch.

[SCeltic34]

Brook Lopez probably kept us from Ben Simmons this year.  Dude is legit.

He didn't take them to 35-40 wins though.

Nope.  Health derailed the team.  Pretty much no depth there at this point.  Despite losing 2 of their starters to injuries and another being bought out, they've still managed to go 6-6 out of their last 12.

Luckily at this point they are in such a hole that even if they go .500 for the remainder of the season we're getting a pick in the top 6 most likely.

Right, because Jarrett Jack and RHJ were the difference between a 25 win team and a 35-40 win team.

Lack of depth was a precise reason why many of us slated BKN to be a sub-30 win team before the season even started.

I completely agreed that lack of depth was a possible issue for them.  That's why I always acknowledged that they'd win less than 35 games if they didn't stay healthy.  A team like that can't afford to lose their starting PG + their best 2 way player (RHJ top in defensive and offensive rating) + lose their starting SG/SF to buyout.  If your team is only a handful of players deep and you lose 2-3 of those players, you're gonna have a bad time.  And now just as I expected, decimated by injuries and a shattered depth chart, Brooklyn's best case scenario appears to be a mere 28 wins if they manage to keep up this .500 win pace... which luckily for us will most likely be a Top 6 pick.   Wonderful time to be a Celtic fan.  Here's hoping they struggle down the stretch.

RHJ isn't even a 2-way player, much less their best 2-way player, regardless of what offensive rating says.  His shot is worse than Rondo's.  He can slash and score, but otherwise is a complete non-factor on offense at this point as a rookie.

Sounds like you based your prediction on the premise that the entire Brooklyn squad would be healthy for the entire season.  I don't know any knowledgeable basketball fan that would assume an injury-free season for an entire team. 

Meanwhile, realistic projections that accounted for injuries to important players, even of Jarrett Jack's caliber, would probably have had Brooklyn at maximum 30 wins this season.  Their two best players, Lopez and Young, have been completely healthy.

[celticsclay]

Brook Lopez probably kept us from Ben Simmons this year.  Dude is legit.

He didn't take them to 35-40 wins though.

Nope.  Health derailed the team.  Pretty much no depth there at this point.  Despite losing 2 of their starters to injuries and another being bought out, they've still managed to go 6-6 out of their last 12.

Luckily at this point they are in such a hole that even if they go .500 for the remainder of the season we're getting a pick in the top 6 most likely.

Right, because Jarrett Jack and RHJ were the difference between a 25 win team and a 35-40 win team.

Lack of depth was a precise reason why many of us slated BKN to be a sub-30 win team before the season even started.

I completely agreed that lack of depth was a possible issue for them.  That's why I always acknowledged that they'd win less than 35 games if they didn't stay healthy.  A team like that can't afford to lose their starting PG + their best 2 way player (RHJ top in defensive and offensive rating) + lose their starting SG/SF to buyout.  If your team is only a handful of players deep and you lose 2-3 of those players, you're gonna have a bad time.  And now just as I expected, decimated by injuries and a shattered depth chart, Brooklyn's best case scenario appears to be a mere 28 wins if they manage to keep up this .500 win pace... which luckily for us will most likely be a Top 6 pick.   Wonderful time to be a Celtic fan.  Here's hoping they struggle down the stretch.

RHJ isn't even a 2-way player, much less their best 2-way player, regardless of what offensive rating says.  His shot is worse than Rondo's.  He can slash and score, but otherwise is a complete non-factor on offense at this point as a rookie.

Sounds like you based your prediction on the premise that the entire Brooklyn squad would be healthy for the entire season.  I don't know any knowledgeable basketball fan that would assume an injury-free season for an entire team. 

Meanwhile, realistic projections that accounted for injuries to important players, even of Jarrett Jack's caliber, would probably have had Brooklyn at maximum 30 wins this season.  Their two best players, Lopez and Young, have been completely healthy.

plus 1000 the larbrd shtick has worn particularly thin on the nets. I don't even bother to respond to him much anymore. Jack and rhj halfway through the season are not devastating injuries. They have been horrible at every point this season.

[LarBrd33]

Brook Lopez probably kept us from Ben Simmons this year.  Dude is legit.

He didn't take them to 35-40 wins though.

Nope.  Health derailed the team.  Pretty much no depth there at this point.  Despite losing 2 of their starters to injuries and another being bought out, they've still managed to go 6-6 out of their last 12.

Luckily at this point they are in such a hole that even if they go .500 for the remainder of the season we're getting a pick in the top 6 most likely.

Right, because Jarrett Jack and RHJ were the difference between a 25 win team and a 35-40 win team.

Lack of depth was a precise reason why many of us slated BKN to be a sub-30 win team before the season even started.

I completely agreed that lack of depth was a possible issue for them.  That's why I always acknowledged that they'd win less than 35 games if they didn't stay healthy.  A team like that can't afford to lose their starting PG + their best 2 way player (RHJ top in defensive and offensive rating) + lose their starting SG/SF to buyout.  If your team is only a handful of players deep and you lose 2-3 of those players, you're gonna have a bad time.  And now just as I expected, decimated by injuries and a shattered depth chart, Brooklyn's best case scenario appears to be a mere 28 wins if they manage to keep up this .500 win pace... which luckily for us will most likely be a Top 6 pick.   Wonderful time to be a Celtic fan.  Here's hoping they struggle down the stretch.

Sounds like you based your prediction on the premise that the entire Brooklyn squad would be healthy for the entire season.

No, I never based any prediction on the premise that they'd be healthy.  I said that if they stayed healthy they'd probably be fine.  I guesstimated 35-40.   This was a team that had just made the playoffs 3 years in a row and their only major loss was Deron Williams and some guys who were getting spot minutes off the bench by the time they made the playoffs.   Had they stayed healthy, this still seemed like a dangerous team.   Good news is, they didn't stay healthy and they never made any additions to that bench.   

I didn't really see the point in getting my hopes up on a Brooklyn situation that seemed contingent on players getting injured.  As inevitable as injuries and depth problems seemed, it felt like poor taste to expect injuries.   But now here we are... barring some inexplicable run, we're looking at a top 6 pick.  Now you're seeing fans who are disappointed that it might end up 6th instead of 1st.  Not me, though.  I'm beyond thrilled at this situation.  A top 6 pick is far more than I could have ever hoped out of that KG/Pierce trade.   It's amazing.   Had you told me a couple years ago that we could trade the corpse of KG and Pierce for a top 6 pick, I would have assumed you were high.  When you consider that we also got many other assets out of that deal including Isaiah Thomas... it's unbelievable.