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Offline Evantime34

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It is what it is. The sky is not falling. Let the ping pong balls fall in May. I don't get the doom & gloom from some of you.

All I know is the Celtics will be a top 3 seed in the playoffs AND get a lottery pick.
Pretty much!  :)

As for the latest chatter, I also suggest to not feed the subtly obvious attention-seeking troll(s). It may be tempting, but that's exactly the kind of attention he/she craves to boost his/her own self-esteem. I've noticed it for a long LONG time (not just this thread but too many others to name) but I felt it was worth commenting on as I fear this thread being derailed and becoming a circular reasoning flame war that he/she thrives on. Motivation can be subtle to spot from one thread, but it becomes obvious and blatant if you take all threads into account.
good advice.  It's just really hard not to respond to these he/shes when they try to twist my previous comments.  I'll try to let it go.  There's no point in getting lured into circular debates with them.  It's a waste of time if people are going to ignore my points for emotional reasons.

The bottom line is that we are looking at a pick that will most likely be projected 4-6 regardless of how hot Brooklyn finishes... Which is far more than anyone could have reasonably expected.  I for one am ecstatic about it.  Instead of arguing with one another we should be celebrating.  Even if Brooklyn finished the season with a 20 game win streak, we would still be looking at a lotto pick. That's amazing.  The most you can reasonably expect from them is for them to continue playing .500 ball and even if that happens the pick is projected 6th.  The "debate" is over... We are all winners here.  This could have been one of the picks we threw in to get Winslow... Instead, there's a shot it will be a land a key part of our franchise heading forward.  Everyone should be pretty excited about the future here.
Are you saying that them going .500 the rest of the way is the best case scenario for us? I think there is a strong chance they do considerably worse than that.

Obviously not.  How could anyone possibly think that was a best case scenario for us?  The best case scenario for us is Philly, LA and Phoenix winning every game from here out and Brooklyn losing ever game.  My writing is pretty muddled and confusing so I don't blame you for missing my point here.  That happens constantly.  So to clarify that point:   Brooklyn has played .500 ball over their last 12 games.  With their roster as decimated as it is, the most anyone can reasonably expect is for them to keep playing .500 ball. That's the "worst case" scenario more or less.  Even if they went 12-8 and finished with 30 wins, it doesn't matter at this point.  There's a big enough gap between Minny and the Pelicans that even 30 wins out of Brooklyn means the pick will be projected 6th at worst.   It's time to celebrate.   Danny pulled off a miracle with the kg/Pierce trade.  Get pumped up. We will be hitting the lotto with solid odds and we didn't have to suffer through a tanking season to get it. 

Essentially the season of us having cake and eating it too.
I see what you are saying. What confused me was that you said the most anyone could hope for  was .500 ball. Since I am looking at it through the lens of our draft pick I would have said that is the "least" we can hope for.

I thought the Nets would be awful this year because I was skeptical of Lopez staying healthy. That he was healthy the entire year and we still will get a top 6 pick is awesome.
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It is what it is. The sky is not falling. Let the ping pong balls fall in May. I don't get the doom & gloom from some of you.

All I know is the Celtics will be a top 3 seed in the playoffs AND get a lottery pick.
Pretty much!  :)

As for the latest chatter, I also suggest to not feed the subtly obvious attention-seeking troll(s). It may be tempting, but that's exactly the kind of attention he/she craves to boost his/her own self-esteem. I've noticed it for a long LONG time (not just this thread but too many others to name) but I felt it was worth commenting on as I fear this thread being derailed and becoming a circular reasoning flame war that he/she thrives on. Motivation can be subtle to spot from one thread, but it becomes obvious and blatant if you take all threads into account.
good advice.  It's just really hard not to respond to these he/shes when they try to twist my previous comments.  I'll try to let it go.  There's no point in getting lured into circular debates with them.  It's a waste of time if people are going to ignore my points for emotional reasons.

The bottom line is that we are looking at a pick that will most likely be projected 4-6 regardless of how hot Brooklyn finishes... Which is far more than anyone could have reasonably expected.  I for one am ecstatic about it.  Instead of arguing with one another we should be celebrating.  Even if Brooklyn finished the season with a 20 game win streak, we would still be looking at a lotto pick. That's amazing.  The most you can reasonably expect from them is for them to continue playing .500 ball and even if that happens the pick is projected 6th.  The "debate" is over... We are all winners here.  This could have been one of the picks we threw in to get Winslow... Instead, there's a shot it will be a land a key part of our franchise heading forward.  Everyone should be pretty excited about the future here.
Are you saying that them going .500 the rest of the way is the best case scenario for us? I think there is a strong chance they do considerably worse than that.

Obviously not.  How could anyone possibly think that was a best case scenario for us?  The best case scenario for us is Philly, LA and Phoenix winning every game from here out and Brooklyn losing ever game.  My writing is pretty muddled and confusing so I don't blame you for missing my point here.  That happens constantly.  So to clarify that point:   Brooklyn has played .500 ball over their last 12 games.  With their roster as decimated as it is, the most anyone can reasonably expect is for them to keep playing .500 ball. That's the "worst case" scenario more or less.  Even if they went 12-8 and finished with 30 wins, it doesn't matter at this point.  There's a big enough gap between Minny and the Pelicans that even 30 wins out of Brooklyn means the pick will be projected 6th at worst.   It's time to celebrate.   Danny pulled off a miracle with the kg/Pierce trade.  Get pumped up. We will be hitting the lotto with solid odds and we didn't have to suffer through a tanking season to get it. 

Essentially the season of us having cake and eating it too.
I had been warning of this for the last month or two.

The schedule finally opened up nicely for the Nets and suddenly things are no longer looking as good.

We lost the battle with the Suns. Could soon be losing out to the Wolves. And if the Nets get lucky a few games they shouldn't win, things could get even more interesting.

CB posters kept saying they would only win a few during this stretch. BS.

This game tonight is huge. Maybe the Wolves will try to play some D finally.




Offline LarBrd33

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It is what it is. The sky is not falling. Let the ping pong balls fall in May. I don't get the doom & gloom from some of you.

All I know is the Celtics will be a top 3 seed in the playoffs AND get a lottery pick.
Pretty much!  :)

As for the latest chatter, I also suggest to not feed the subtly obvious attention-seeking troll(s). It may be tempting, but that's exactly the kind of attention he/she craves to boost his/her own self-esteem. I've noticed it for a long LONG time (not just this thread but too many others to name) but I felt it was worth commenting on as I fear this thread being derailed and becoming a circular reasoning flame war that he/she thrives on. Motivation can be subtle to spot from one thread, but it becomes obvious and blatant if you take all threads into account.
good advice.  It's just really hard not to respond to these he/shes when they try to twist my previous comments.  I'll try to let it go.  There's no point in getting lured into circular debates with them.  It's a waste of time if people are going to ignore my points for emotional reasons.

The bottom line is that we are looking at a pick that will most likely be projected 4-6 regardless of how hot Brooklyn finishes... Which is far more than anyone could have reasonably expected.  I for one am ecstatic about it.  Instead of arguing with one another we should be celebrating.  Even if Brooklyn finished the season with a 20 game win streak, we would still be looking at a lotto pick. That's amazing.  The most you can reasonably expect from them is for them to continue playing .500 ball and even if that happens the pick is projected 6th.  The "debate" is over... We are all winners here.  This could have been one of the picks we threw in to get Winslow... Instead, there's a shot it will be a land a key part of our franchise heading forward.  Everyone should be pretty excited about the future here.
Are you saying that them going .500 the rest of the way is the best case scenario for us? I think there is a strong chance they do considerably worse than that.

Obviously not.  How could anyone possibly think that was a best case scenario for us?  The best case scenario for us is Philly, LA and Phoenix winning every game from here out and Brooklyn losing ever game.  My writing is pretty muddled and confusing so I don't blame you for missing my point here.  That happens constantly.  So to clarify that point:   Brooklyn has played .500 ball over their last 12 games.  With their roster as decimated as it is, the most anyone can reasonably expect is for them to keep playing .500 ball. That's the "worst case" scenario more or less.  Even if they went 12-8 and finished with 30 wins, it doesn't matter at this point.  There's a big enough gap between Minny and the Pelicans that even 30 wins out of Brooklyn means the pick will be projected 6th at worst.   It's time to celebrate.   Danny pulled off a miracle with the kg/Pierce trade.  Get pumped up. We will be hitting the lotto with solid odds and we didn't have to suffer through a tanking season to get it. 

Essentially the season of us having cake and eating it too.
I see what you are saying. What confused me was that you said the most anyone could hope for  was .500 ball. Since I am looking at it through the lens of our draft pick I would have said that is the "least" we can hope for.

I thought the Nets would be awful this year because I was skeptical of Lopez staying healthy. That he was healthy the entire year and we still will get a top 6 pick is awesome.
Yeah I can see how my word choice could be confusing there.  My word choice gets me into trouble a lot.  It's why it's so easy to take things I've said in the past out of context.    I should have said, "The worst-case scenario seems like Brooklyn continuing to play .500 ball and finishing the season with 28 wins.  Given how depleted that roster is, nobody should reasonably expect them to finish much better than that.  But even if that happens, the pick is basically a lock for top 6 at this point."

I'm a pessimist, though.  And I'll hate myself if Brooklyn manages to exceed even those expectations... so let me vomit a bit.   Technically, the worst-case scenario is teams shutting down/tanking down the stretch while Brooklyn picks up a bunch of spiteful wins.  Say Brooklyn goes 15-5 and finishes with 33 wins while teams like the Magic, Bucks, Kings, Knicks, Nuggets and Pelicans somehow only win 5 games each down the stretch.    That would mean the pick ends up projected around 12th.    But I mean, come on.... what's the chances that happens?   If we're being reasonable, the 6th pick seems worst-case (with maybe 1 or 2 teams leapfrogging in the lotto pushing it to 7-8).   Even if that happened, we're good.  There's no consensus outside the top 2.  Ainge is solid at drafting.  We'll get a solid addition.

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It is what it is. The sky is not falling. Let the ping pong balls fall in May. I don't get the doom & gloom from some of you.

All I know is the Celtics will be a top 3 seed in the playoffs AND get a lottery pick.
Pretty much!  :)

As for the latest chatter, I also suggest to not feed the subtly obvious attention-seeking troll(s). It may be tempting, but that's exactly the kind of attention he/she craves to boost his/her own self-esteem. I've noticed it for a long LONG time (not just this thread but too many others to name) but I felt it was worth commenting on as I fear this thread being derailed and becoming a circular reasoning flame war that he/she thrives on. Motivation can be subtle to spot from one thread, but it becomes obvious and blatant if you take all threads into account.
good advice.  It's just really hard not to respond to these he/shes when they try to twist my previous comments.  I'll try to let it go.  There's no point in getting lured into circular debates with them.  It's a waste of time if people are going to ignore my points for emotional reasons.

The bottom line is that we are looking at a pick that will most likely be projected 4-6 regardless of how hot Brooklyn finishes... Which is far more than anyone could have reasonably expected.  I for one am ecstatic about it.  Instead of arguing with one another we should be celebrating.  Even if Brooklyn finished the season with a 20 game win streak, we would still be looking at a lotto pick. That's amazing.  The most you can reasonably expect from them is for them to continue playing .500 ball and even if that happens the pick is projected 6th.  The "debate" is over... We are all winners here.  This could have been one of the picks we threw in to get Winslow... Instead, there's a shot it will be a land a key part of our franchise heading forward.  Everyone should be pretty excited about the future here.
Are you saying that them going .500 the rest of the way is the best case scenario for us? I think there is a strong chance they do considerably worse than that.

Obviously not.  How could anyone possibly think that was a best case scenario for us?  The best case scenario for us is Philly, LA and Phoenix winning every game from here out and Brooklyn losing ever game.  My writing is pretty muddled and confusing so I don't blame you for missing my point here.  That happens constantly.  So to clarify that point:   Brooklyn has played .500 ball over their last 12 games.  With their roster as decimated as it is, the most anyone can reasonably expect is for them to keep playing .500 ball. That's the "worst case" scenario more or less.  Even if they went 12-8 and finished with 30 wins, it doesn't matter at this point.  There's a big enough gap between Minny and the Pelicans that even 30 wins out of Brooklyn means the pick will be projected 6th at worst.   It's time to celebrate.   Danny pulled off a miracle with the kg/Pierce trade.  Get pumped up. We will be hitting the lotto with solid odds and we didn't have to suffer through a tanking season to get it. 

Essentially the season of us having cake and eating it too.
I had been warning of this for the last month or two.

The schedule finally opened up nicely for the Nets and suddenly things are no longer looking as good.

We lost the battle with the Suns. Could soon be losing out to the Wolves. And if the Nets get lucky a few games they shouldn't win, things could get even more interesting.

CB posters kept saying they would only win a few during this stretch. BS.

This game tonight is huge. Maybe the Wolves will try to play some D finally.
yes, a big game. minnie is an enigma. they have some real talent on that team, but they continue to suck. wiggins, towns, lavine, and rubio are not chopped liver.

i guess doing well in the draft is not a lock to becoming a good team. hopefully the put it all together tonight and stomp the nets into mush.  ;D
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Offline mctyson

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Would getting the 6th Pick and taking Buddy Hield really be such a bad thing? I know it's rationalization, but Hield is probably my 3rd or 4th favorite guy in this Draft anyways.
hes gonna be 23 his first year in the NBA. Also, we have AB and Smart. Do we need another 6'4 guy? I mean unless it's Dunn who looks like a potential star, I say pass. Or unless we are trading Smart for Love.

Age is overrated. What matters is that Hield has improved dramatically every year and has tremendous work ethic. He has demonstrated a clear ability to improve, and therefore, he has potential to continue this upward trend. Obviously, if we draft him we'd have to move a guard or two (AB would be my pick), but someone like AB is a valuable chip and could help us upgrade the frontcourt. I'm just saying, don't you think Charlotte and Cleveland would rather have picked Lillard than MKG or Waiters? And wouldn't you rather have Klay Thompson over Tristan Thompson or Brandon Knight? I'm not saying upperclassmen end up as better players--they don't--but prospects shouldn't be discounted due to their ages.

This misses the entire point.  It's not about age or upper vs under classmen.  The problem is that some 18 and 19 year olds are ready to play in the NBA right away, whereas the overwhelming majority are not.  But we have to let those 18 and 19 and 20 year olds who are ready enter the Draft, which of course opens the flood gates for all of them to come.

It is the #1 problem with the NBA and has been for a while.  Buddy Heild and players like him are actually viewed negatively because it is assumed that they are not talented ("if he was actually talented, why didn't he enter the league sooner??").  I don't think it will ever change as long as people like Ben Simmons exist.

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It is what it is. The sky is not falling. Let the ping pong balls fall in May. I don't get the doom & gloom from some of you.

All I know is the Celtics will be a top 3 seed in the playoffs AND get a lottery pick.
Pretty much!  :)

As for the latest chatter, I also suggest to not feed the subtly obvious attention-seeking troll(s). It may be tempting, but that's exactly the kind of attention he/she craves to boost his/her own self-esteem. I've noticed it for a long LONG time (not just this thread but too many others to name) but I felt it was worth commenting on as I fear this thread being derailed and becoming a circular reasoning flame war that he/she thrives on. Motivation can be subtle to spot from one thread, but it becomes obvious and blatant if you take all threads into account.
good advice.  It's just really hard not to respond to these he/shes when they try to twist my previous comments.  I'll try to let it go.  There's no point in getting lured into circular debates with them.  It's a waste of time if people are going to ignore my points for emotional reasons.

The bottom line is that we are looking at a pick that will most likely be projected 4-6 regardless of how hot Brooklyn finishes... Which is far more than anyone could have reasonably expected.  I for one am ecstatic about it.  Instead of arguing with one another we should be celebrating.  Even if Brooklyn finished the season with a 20 game win streak, we would still be looking at a lotto pick. That's amazing.  The most you can reasonably expect from them is for them to continue playing .500 ball and even if that happens the pick is projected 6th.  The "debate" is over... We are all winners here.  This could have been one of the picks we threw in to get Winslow... Instead, there's a shot it will be a land a key part of our franchise heading forward.  Everyone should be pretty excited about the future here.
Are you saying that them going .500 the rest of the way is the best case scenario for us? I think there is a strong chance they do considerably worse than that.

Obviously not.  How could anyone possibly think that was a best case scenario for us?  The best case scenario for us is Philly, LA and Phoenix winning every game from here out and Brooklyn losing ever game.  My writing is pretty muddled and confusing so I don't blame you for missing my point here.  That happens constantly.  So to clarify that point:   Brooklyn has played .500 ball over their last 12 games.  With their roster as decimated as it is, the most anyone can reasonably expect is for them to keep playing .500 ball. That's the "worst case" scenario more or less.  Even if they went 12-8 and finished with 30 wins, it doesn't matter at this point.  There's a big enough gap between Minny and the Pelicans that even 30 wins out of Brooklyn means the pick will be projected 6th at worst.   It's time to celebrate.   Danny pulled off a miracle with the kg/Pierce trade.  Get pumped up. We will be hitting the lotto with solid odds and we didn't have to suffer through a tanking season to get it. 

Essentially the season of us having cake and eating it too.
I had been warning of this for the last month or two.

The schedule finally opened up nicely for the Nets and suddenly things are no longer looking as good.

We lost the battle with the Suns. Could soon be losing out to the Wolves. And if the Nets get lucky a few games they shouldn't win, things could get even more interesting.

CB posters kept saying they would only win a few during this stretch. BS.

This game tonight is huge. Maybe the Wolves will try to play some D finally.
yes, a big game. minnie is an enigma. they have some real talent on that team, but they continue to suck. wiggins, towns, lavine, and rubio are not chopped liver.

i guess doing well in the draft is not a lock to becoming a good team. hopefully the put it all together tonight and stomp the nets into mush.  ;D
This is turning out to be some serious Quote button abuse!  :P

Back to your reply. I hope so also. But that Wolves team will be the new OKC in a couple years. Don't be fooled by their bad year. 

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BREAKING: Lopez and Young are out (rest) vs T'Wolves
I could very well see the Hawks... starting Taurean Prince at the 3, who is already better than Crowder, imo.

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Offline CelticSooner

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BREAKING: Lopez and Young are out (rest) vs T'Wolves

Does Ainge have another backdoor deal or something? lol

Must win Minnesota!!!

Offline hpantazo

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BREAKING: Lopez and Young are out (rest) vs T'Wolves

Does Ainge have another backdoor deal or something? lol

Must win Minnesota!!!

Nets new GM/coach are more logical. It's best to rest their best assets now that the games are literally meaningless to them, rather than risk serious injuries and damage to their assets just to spite Ainge and Boston due to a deal they themselves were not even around for.

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Rest those guys for the remainder of the season Brooklyn---there is NO reason to have them playing so hard and risking injury...It's really head scratching how hard guys like Lopez are playing and trying to win games that mean nothing to them.
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What you guys are saying is true. That team plays pretty hard considering. Suns have pretty much shut it down and Minnesota are inept right now.

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Wow, that's a really odd choice to sit tonight of all times for rest.
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Maybe Ainge said to the Nets, rest Lopez and Young, stop trying so hard and maybe just maybe I will give you back your 2017 and 2018 for a little price of course.

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Holy crap, guys. I think Danny has mind control powers: "Brooklyn, you will do everything in your power to remain in the 4th slot."
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Oh well about the Celtics loss tonight. Can't win 8 on 5 basketball. Please kick some butts Wolves.


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