It is what it is. The sky is not falling. Let the ping pong balls fall in May. I don't get the doom & gloom from some of you.
All I know is the Celtics will be a top 3 seed in the playoffs AND get a lottery pick.
Pretty much!
As for the latest chatter, I also suggest to not feed the subtly obvious attention-seeking troll(s). It may be tempting, but that's exactly the kind of attention he/she craves to boost his/her own self-esteem. I've noticed it for a long LONG time (not just this thread but too many others to name) but I felt it was worth commenting on as I fear this thread being derailed and becoming a circular reasoning flame war that he/she thrives on. Motivation can be subtle to spot from one thread, but it becomes obvious and blatant if you take all threads into account.
good advice. It's just really hard not to respond to these he/shes when they try to twist my previous comments. I'll try to let it go. There's no point in getting lured into circular debates with them. It's a waste of time if people are going to ignore my points for emotional reasons.
The bottom line is that we are looking at a pick that will most likely be projected 4-6 regardless of how hot Brooklyn finishes... Which is far more than anyone could have reasonably expected. I for one am ecstatic about it. Instead of arguing with one another we should be celebrating. Even if Brooklyn finished the season with a 20 game win streak, we would still be looking at a lotto pick. That's amazing. The most you can reasonably expect from them is for them to continue playing .500 ball and even if that happens the pick is projected 6th. The "debate" is over... We are all winners here. This could have been one of the picks we threw in to get Winslow... Instead, there's a shot it will be a land a key part of our franchise heading forward. Everyone should be pretty excited about the future here.
Are you saying that them going .500 the rest of the way is the best case scenario for us? I think there is a strong chance they do considerably worse than that.
Obviously not. How could anyone possibly think that was a best case scenario for us? The best case scenario for us is Philly, LA and Phoenix winning every game from here out and Brooklyn losing ever game. My writing is pretty muddled and confusing so I don't blame you for missing my point here. That happens constantly. So to clarify that point: Brooklyn has played .500 ball over their last 12 games. With their roster as decimated as it is, the most anyone can reasonably expect is for them to keep playing .500 ball. That's the "worst case" scenario more or less. Even if they went 12-8 and finished with 30 wins, it doesn't matter at this point. There's a big enough gap between Minny and the Pelicans that even 30 wins out of Brooklyn means the pick will be projected 6th at worst. It's time to celebrate. Danny pulled off a miracle with the kg/Pierce trade. Get pumped up. We will be hitting the lotto with solid odds and we didn't have to suffer through a tanking season to get it.
Essentially the season of us having cake and eating it too.
I see what you are saying. What confused me was that you said the most anyone could hope for was .500 ball. Since I am looking at it through the lens of our draft pick I would have said that is the "least" we can hope for.
I thought the Nets would be awful this year because I was skeptical of Lopez staying healthy. That he was healthy the entire year and we still will get a top 6 pick is awesome.
Yeah I can see how my word choice could be confusing there. My word choice gets me into trouble a lot. It's why it's so easy to take things I've said in the past out of context. I should have said, "The worst-case scenario seems like Brooklyn continuing to play .500 ball and finishing the season with 28 wins. Given how depleted that roster is, nobody should reasonably expect them to finish much better than that. But even if that happens, the pick is basically a lock for top 6 at this point."
I'm a pessimist, though. And I'll hate myself if Brooklyn manages to exceed even those expectations... so let me vomit a bit. Technically, the worst-case scenario is teams shutting down/tanking down the stretch while Brooklyn picks up a bunch of spiteful wins. Say Brooklyn goes 15-5 and finishes with 33 wins while teams like the Magic, Bucks, Kings, Knicks, Nuggets and Pelicans somehow only win 5 games each down the stretch. That would mean the pick ends up projected around 12th. But I mean, come on.... what's the chances that happens? If we're being reasonable, the 6th pick seems worst-case (with maybe 1 or 2 teams leapfrogging in the lotto pushing it to 7-8). Even if that happened, we're good. There's no consensus outside the top 2. Ainge is solid at drafting. We'll get a solid addition.