Official 2015-16 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (21-59, 3rd slot as of 4/12)

[max215]

The best point brought up by that podcast is that the new Nets management shouldn't manage the Nets to try to lower the value of the picks they give to Boston. Those picks are gone and not coming back. Overpaying for a bunch of middle level players simply to get to mediocrity is about the worst thing the Nets can do. They'll become mediocre and use up their cap space and only create a situation where they would then have to blow it up and restart all over again in 2019 with a team that could be a bottom feeder for years simply to rebuild trying to find a superstar.

They will be better off starting the rebuild now. Dump the heavy contracts for the best deals you can get. Keep the salary situation flexible to possibly make trades where you absorb salaries in trades from teams that will need cap space. Find some youth to develop through trades or trades that net draft picks. Would this be great for Boston? Sure. but its probably in the Nets best interest as a franchise.

This is what I've been saying all along. Front Offices should not make moves to spite other teams or save face. The best thing the Nets could do at this point is try to salvage their future. That's not going to happen with more short-sighted moves.

[TheSundanceKid]

The best point brought up by that podcast is that the new Nets management shouldn't manage the Nets to try to lower the value of the picks they give to Boston. Those picks are gone and not coming back. Overpaying for a bunch of middle level players simply to get to mediocrity is about the worst thing the Nets can do. They'll become mediocre and use up their cap space and only create a situation where they would then have to blow it up and restart all over again in 2019 with a team that could be a bottom feeder for years simply to rebuild trying to find a superstar.

They will be better off starting the rebuild now. Dump the heavy contracts for the best deals you can get. Keep the salary situation flexible to possibly make trades where you absorb salaries in trades from teams that will need cap space. Find some youth to develop through trades or trades that net draft picks. Would this be great for Boston? Sure. but its probably in the Nets best interest as a franchise.

So that last paragraph, if I understand correctly that's similar to what Philly have been doing? Such as the Landry and Thompson deal? I think that would be great but with the exploding cap this year and next will they have the same opportunities?

I stand in the opposite camp to Lowe. They should look to Boston as a model for rebuilding. Build assets, overpay for Jerebko types with non-guaranteed money, build value in lesser players. Build with 2018 FA in mind, that's when their cap space ultimately matters. Use Jack's "expiring" to net some assets. If someone wants serious cap space, hey Joe Johnson!

If they get to the end of FA and they have nothing, then I can see them cashing in assets for what they can. But I don't see the rationale for giving in before then.

[jmen788]

In all honesty, it's better for our future if we lose to the Suns tonight (so of course we will end up winning).

Hate to say it... but GO SUNS!!!

[RockinRyA]

The best point brought up by that podcast is that the new Nets management shouldn't manage the Nets to try to lower the value of the picks they give to Boston. Those picks are gone and not coming back. Overpaying for a bunch of middle level players simply to get to mediocrity is about the worst thing the Nets can do. They'll become mediocre and use up their cap space and only create a situation where they would then have to blow it up and restart all over again in 2019 with a team that could be a bottom feeder for years simply to rebuild trying to find a superstar.

They will be better off starting the rebuild now. Dump the heavy contracts for the best deals you can get. Keep the salary situation flexible to possibly make trades where you absorb salaries in trades from teams that will need cap space. Find some youth to develop through trades or trades that net draft picks. Would this be great for Boston? Sure. but its probably in the Nets best interest as a franchise.

That's actually a really good point and I hadn't really ever thought of it from that perspective.  I kept thinking, "Welp they got nothin to lose... might as well just get as many crappy vets and bad contracts they can to be as competitive as possible", but the smart move still probably is moving Brook Lopez and whoever else for picks and trying to build through youth despite not owning their personal draft picks.

I read a similar article a few months ago. They said that while the move may increase the Celts' 2016 draft pick, it might weaken the 2017 swap and 2018 one and that the Nets should not mind the Celtics at all when making their moves. Any move to try and sabotage our draft pick this year might end up sabotaging the Nets future as well, and that the best thing to do now was make their cap situation better for their future and help the franchise value as well.

[Hemingway]

The nets don't care about us. They will do what's best for them

[The One]

In all honesty, it's better for our future if we lose to the Suns tonight (so of course we will end up winning).

Hate to say it... but GO SUNS!!!

Celtics should win as many games as possible.

[jmen788]

In all honesty, it's better for our future if we lose to the Suns tonight (so of course we will end up winning).

Hate to say it... but GO SUNS!!!

Celtics should win as many games as possible.

Yes - we shouldn't help ourselves get the top pick but instead we should finish around 500 to get swept in round 1 by Cleveland - excellent idea! Ingenious!

Wow the parochial mindset and lack of looking at the big picture by some on here is quite unnerving :/

[wdleehi]

In all honesty, it's better for our future if we lose to the Suns tonight (so of course we will end up winning).

Hate to say it... but GO SUNS!!!

Celtics should win as many games as possible.

Yes - we shouldn't help ourselves get the top pick but instead we should finish around 500 to get swept in round 1 by Cleveland - excellent idea! Ingenious!

Wow the parochial mindset and lack of looking at the big picture by some on here is quite unnerving :/

The Celtics should try and win every game.   They should be training their players to play that way. 




The Nets can do all the tanking for the Celtics. 

[slamtheking]

In all honesty, it's better for our future if we lose to the Suns tonight (so of course we will end up winning).

Hate to say it... but GO SUNS!!!

Celtics should win as many games as possible.

Yes - we shouldn't help ourselves get the top pick but instead we should finish around 500 to get swept in round 1 by Cleveland - excellent idea! Ingenious!

Wow the parochial mindset and lack of looking at the big picture by some on here is quite unnerving :/

The Celtics should try and win every game.   They should be training their players to play that way. 

The Nets can do all the tanking for the Celtics. 

exactly.  the incessant whine of the minority wanting the C's to lose for that glorified (yet conveniently overlooked how miniscule) chance to win the lottery is mindnumbing. 

win as much as possible.  Danny has set it up so C's can continue to try to improve while letting other teams (Brooklyn right now) play poorly in our stead. 

[PhoSita]

Right or not, so long as the Nets have a plausible chance of making a run at the playoffs with Brook and Thad on board, I think they'll use this summer to try and reload while making sure not to tie up their cap space beyond 2018.  They'll begin truly rebuilding in 2019, when they finally control their own pick again.

[jmen788]

In all honesty, it's better for our future if we lose to the Suns tonight (so of course we will end up winning).

Hate to say it... but GO SUNS!!!

Celtics should win as many games as possible.

Yes - we shouldn't help ourselves get the top pick but instead we should finish around 500 to get swept in round 1 by Cleveland - excellent idea! Ingenious!

Wow the parochial mindset and lack of looking at the big picture by some on here is quite unnerving :/

The Celtics should try and win every game.   They should be training their players to play that way. 

The Nets can do all the tanking for the Celtics. 

exactly.  the incessant whine of the minority wanting the C's to lose for that glorified (yet conveniently overlooked how miniscule) chance to win the lottery is mindnumbing. 

win as much as possible.  Danny has set it up so C's can continue to try to improve while letting other teams (Brooklyn right now) play poorly in our stead.

I'm not for tanking the year, but just in this one specific instance. Our chance to soft tank was last year and we blew it.

[hpantazo]

In all honesty, it's better for our future if we lose to the Suns tonight (so of course we will end up winning).

Hate to say it... but GO SUNS!!!

Celtics should win as many games as possible.

Yes - we shouldn't help ourselves get the top pick but instead we should finish around 500 to get swept in round 1 by Cleveland - excellent idea! Ingenious!

Wow the parochial mindset and lack of looking at the big picture by some on here is quite unnerving :/

The Celtics should try and win every game.   They should be training their players to play that way. 




The Nets can do all the tanking for the Celtics.

That's not how tanking works. Nobody on any team instructs or trains players to go out and lose. Players would never do that, as their future contracts and careers depend on their individual performances much more than some perceived future success of a franchise that they may or may not be a part of. Tanking is all about putting together rosters and lineups on he floor that have a poor chance of winning. That's on the GM and coach 100%. Honestly, when CBS plays Lee extended minutes even though he looks awful out there, or is having Turner launch threes, or plays Smart at the 4, you have to wonder what the actual goal is with some of those lineups.

[ssspence]

The best point brought up by that podcast is that the new Nets management shouldn't manage the Nets to try to lower the value of the picks they give to Boston. Those picks are gone and not coming back. Overpaying for a bunch of middle level players simply to get to mediocrity is about the worst thing the Nets can do. They'll become mediocre and use up their cap space and only create a situation where they would then have to blow it up and restart all over again in 2019 with a team that could be a bottom feeder for years simply to rebuild trying to find a superstar.

They will be better off starting the rebuild now. Dump the heavy contracts for the best deals you can get. Keep the salary situation flexible to possibly make trades where you absorb salaries in trades from teams that will need cap space. Find some youth to develop through trades or trades that net draft picks. Would this be great for Boston? Sure. but its probably in the Nets best interest as a franchise.

That's actually a really good point and I hadn't really ever thought of it from that perspective.  I kept thinking, "Welp they got nothin to lose... might as well just get as many crappy vets and bad contracts they can to be as competitive as possible", but the smart move still probably is moving Brook Lopez and whoever else for picks and trying to build through youth despite not owning their personal draft picks.

Agree. If they can move Lopez for a legit 1st rounder, they should absolutely do it while he's healthy. They should also move Young for whatever they can get (likely a second rounder or two).

I also agree with Mannix ~~ they should make a godfather offer to RC Buford. Nobody is better with late picks than he is. Squeeze out as many 2nd rounders with the junk they have on the roster now, and make good use of 'em. 

[wdleehi]

In all honesty, it's better for our future if we lose to the Suns tonight (so of course we will end up winning).

Hate to say it... but GO SUNS!!!

Celtics should win as many games as possible.

Yes - we shouldn't help ourselves get the top pick but instead we should finish around 500 to get swept in round 1 by Cleveland - excellent idea! Ingenious!

Wow the parochial mindset and lack of looking at the big picture by some on here is quite unnerving :/

The Celtics should try and win every game.   They should be training their players to play that way. 




The Nets can do all the tanking for the Celtics.

That's not how tanking works. Nobody on any team instructs or trains players to go out and lose. Players would never do that, as their future contracts and careers depend on their individual performances much more than some perceived future success of a franchise that they may or may not be a part of. Tanking is all about putting together rosters and lineups on he floor that have a poor chance of winning. That's on the GM and coach 100%. Honestly, when CBS plays Lee extended minutes even though he looks awful out there, or is having Turner launch threes, or plays Smart at the 4, you have to wonder what the actual goal is with some of those lineups.

Yes it.


Celtics has to much talent at the moment to properly tank.



The Nets do not have enough talent not to tank.



Celtics don't have to worry about tanking, the Nets are already doing it.   The Celtics can fully concentrate on using their talent and allowing their talent to grow.

[konkmv]

The nets will give us a top 5 pick.... i am not sure we are a playoff team.... thomas and bradley do not allow smart rozier hunter to grow.. mickey and oly are not getting enough minutes because of johnson