Official 2015-16 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (21-59, 3rd slot as of 4/12)

[CelticsFanFromNYC]

I see it like this. Everyone has been spanking Houston. No Baezmore or Teague? Guard deprived Hawks. Despite no Klay Thompson GSW's are no joke. Jack, Johson,Young,Lopez, Bargs,and bojan arent a bad line when their all playing  on point as a team. What you think GSW locker rooms scouting report is?? Try and stop Lopez but most of al have fun. Give  2nd n 3rd stringers some playing time. Obviously didnt happen. No one other then Philly and LA are bound to have as bad of a year as the nets can possibly have.  In conclusion I called 3rd pick. BUT usually whoever is projected 3rd usually gets 1st or 2nd

Someone mentioned tankathon.com . Quick concise transparent look at the worst records in the league  who owns whos pick plus a draft simulator.

Edit: Sorry for all the typos

[chambers]

Aside from the fact that they play hard, the Nets are still the same crappy team that lost 9 games already.

They are the same crappy team that lost 9 games already, but are they also the same crappy team that has beat Houston and Atlanta, nearly beat Golden State in their last game, finished last season 13-5 after Lopez and Thad started gelling, won 38 games last season and has made the playoffs 3 years in a row?... because that's my main concern.   It's probably just me being paranoid, though.   Order the Ben Simmons jerseys.  It's a lock.  Book it.

A few bounces here or there and they could be 0-11.
They beat the Rockets with 50% shooting from 3 on a rockers back to back. They beat the Hawks with 45% shooting from 3 on a hawks back to back without teague or bazemore.

They are terrible. They are going to get lucky wins when they shoot 45%+ from three and key players are out.

You seem to think if you say it enough, it just might happen.
Jarrett jack is and has been terrible bar 2 games. Same with Johnson.

They are a bottom 5 team. If they get lucky enough and they go 24 wins we probably get the 5th pick.
If the Celtocs get lucky and they get 20 wins we're looking at the 3rd or 4th pick.
If Lopez goes down we're looking at a top 2 pick.

They are a terrible team. There are 71 games remaining and they  to win 1 in every 3 games to even get to 24 wins.
You're digging yourself deeper with the 'alot of things can happen between now and then' rhetoric.

Again, the Nets have to win 1 of every 3 remaining games to total 24 wins. Without Lopez, Young or Johnson going down.

[tazzmaniac]

Aside from the fact that they play hard, the Nets are still the same crappy team that lost 9 games already.

They are the same crappy team that lost 9 games already, but are they also the same crappy team that has beat Houston and Atlanta, nearly beat Golden State in their last game, finished last season 13-5 after Lopez and Thad started gelling, won 38 games last season and has made the playoffs 3 years in a row?... because that's my main concern.    It's probably just me being paranoid, though.   Order the Ben Simmons jerseys.  It's a lock.  Book it.

I give them credit for their play on the road.  But another way of looking at it, for all that good play on the road, is that they barely managed to beat a slumping, short-handed Hawks team that turned the ball over 20 times - many of them live turnovers - and still only managed to score 18 points in the 4th quarter and 90 points for the game. 

They may be able to beat the Hornets tomorrow because, well, Charlotte is never any good.  I think the C's are going to beat them down on Friday and Sunday.

A win is a win.  The Nets are going to pickup some "unexpected" wins.  Some teams will blatantly tank to improve their draft position.  Remember the god-awful lineups that the Lakers and Knicks put on the court after they shutdown Kobe and Carmelo.  Some locked-in playoff teams will rest their players at the end of the season.   

Billy King has already started looking at trades.  His ineptitude and the Nets lack of assets will prevent him from doing anything significant.  He could try to acquire someone using their 2020 1st.  He might be able to trade Joe Johnson since he's on the last year of his contract.   

[crimson_stallion]

LarBrd33 - just out of curiosity, which teams in the league right now do you believe are bad enough to finish worse than the Nets?

Going off win record, the Nets (2-9 / 0.182) are currently the third worst team in the NBA behind Philly (0-11 / 0.00) and New Orleans (1-10 / .090).

Out of those three teams, the odd one out (to me) is New Orleans, since they have a potential top 5 talent on their team (Anthony Davis) and who have been playing without one of their top three players (Tyreke).  Our of the three shockingly bad teams, they have the best change of improving later in the season.

The 4th worst is the Lakers (2-9 / .182 / -6.1) who IMHO have significantly more depth, talent and potential than the Nets - and hence a greater chance of improving as the season goes along.  Plus they have Kobe who could return to form any time, and will never intentionally lose a game (no matter how much his team wants to).


The 5th worst team has been Houston (4-7 / 0.364 /-7.7), who is IMHO unlikely to remain as bad as they have been over the course of a whole season, simply because they have far too much talent. 

The 6th worst team is Sacramento (4-7 / .364 / -4.1) but only because they have gone 0-4 in games where DeMarcus Cousins didn't play.  When he has played they have gone 4-3, with the three losses coming against the Spurs, Clippers and Clippers.

Portland have been bad too (4-8 / 0.333 / -2.5) but their point differential is 7th best in the West..which suggests they are nowhere near as bad as their record indicates. 

So how many of these teams can possibly finish worst than the Nets?!?!?!

I can see the Sixers as the obvious one.  The Lakers and Pelicans maybe.  The Blazers have an outside chance.  I really don't see anybody else who is anywhere near bad enough (and lacking in talent enough) to finish below the nets.  That puts the Nets at a bottom 4 finish, worst case. 

Anyway please allow me to remind everybody that the Philadephia 76ers (yeah THOSE guys) won 18 games last year and finished 3rd last, despite the fact that they started the season 0-18.

The Timberwolves started their season 3-7 over their first 10 games (0.300) and then went 13-59 over their remaining 72 games to secure the worst spot in the league.

Brooklyn went 1-9 over their first 10.  Just because they have won two games in their first 11, doesn't mean they won't go on to finish with a bottom 3 record.

After all, they are still yet to win a single game against a decent and healthy team. 

Despite no Klay Thompson GSW's are no joke.

Wow..I didn't even know that the 'competitive game' against the Warriors was without Klay Thompson.

That's a very, very different Warriors team.

[Rondo9]

Aside from the fact that they play hard, the Nets are still the same crappy team that lost 9 games already.

They are the same crappy team that lost 9 games already, but are they also the same crappy team that has beat Houston and Atlanta, nearly beat Golden State in their last game, finished last season 13-5 after Lopez and Thad started gelling, won 38 games last season and has made the playoffs 3 years in a row?... because that's my main concern.    It's probably just me being paranoid, though.   Order the Ben Simmons jerseys.  It's a lock.  Book it.

I give them credit for their play on the road.  But another way of looking at it, for all that good play on the road, is that they barely managed to beat a slumping, short-handed Hawks team that turned the ball over 20 times - many of them live turnovers - and still only managed to score 18 points in the 4th quarter and 90 points for the game. 

They may be able to beat the Hornets tomorrow because, well, Charlotte is never any good.  I think the C's are going to beat them down on Friday and Sunday.

A win is a win.  The Nets are going to pickup some "unexpected" wins.  Some teams will blatantly tank to improve their draft position.  Remember the god-awful lineups that the Lakers and Knicks put on the court after they shutdown Kobe and Carmelo.  Some locked-in playoff teams will rest their players at the end of the season.   

Billy King has already started looking at trades.  His ineptitude and the Nets lack of assets will prevent him from doing anything significant.  He could try to acquire someone using their 2020 1st.  He might be able to trade Joe Johnson since he's on the last year of his contract.

I don't think he denied it, it just that the Nets barely beat and Teagueless Hawks by two. Nets may win some unexpected games, but so will the Sixers, Lakers and Pelicans.

[ReadyFor17]

Aside from the fact that they play hard, the Nets are still the same crappy team that lost 9 games already.

They are the same crappy team that lost 9 games already, but are they also the same crappy team that has beat Houston and Atlanta, nearly beat Golden State in their last game, finished last season 13-5 after Lopez and Thad started gelling, won 38 games last season and has made the playoffs 3 years in a row?... because that's my main concern.    It's probably just me being paranoid, though.   Order the Ben Simmons jerseys.  It's a lock.  Book it.

I give them credit for their play on the road.  But another way of looking at it, for all that good play on the road, is that they barely managed to beat a slumping, short-handed Hawks team that turned the ball over 20 times - many of them live turnovers - and still only managed to score 18 points in the 4th quarter and 90 points for the game. 

They may be able to beat the Hornets tomorrow because, well, Charlotte is never any good.  I think the C's are going to beat them down on Friday and Sunday.

A win is a win.  The Nets are going to pickup some "unexpected" wins.  Some teams will blatantly tank to improve their draft position.  Remember the god-awful lineups that the Lakers and Knicks put on the court after they shutdown Kobe and Carmelo.  Some locked-in playoff teams will rest their players at the end of the season.   

Billy King has already started looking at trades.  His ineptitude and the Nets lack of assets will prevent him from doing anything significant.  He could try to acquire someone using their 2020 1st.  He might be able to trade Joe Johnson since he's on the last year of his contract.

It's still too early but the East looks stronger this year so more teams at the bottom could be fighting for the 8 seed and more teams near the top could still be jockeying for position through 82 games. Right now only 3 games separate the #1 and #13 seeds and the West figures to be a battle as usual. The longer that many teams can hover around .500 the better off we'll be.

I'm heartened by the fact that the Nets have already lost at home to a team that has everything to gain by tanking.

[mef730]

Someone mentioned tankathon.com . Quick concise transparent look at the worst records in the league  who owns whos pick plus a draft simulator.

!#@*!$#@ Tankathon. Every time I run a sim based on our current #4, we end up as #5. On the plus side, that means that Tankathon is realistic.

I don't think he denied it, it just that the Nets barely beat and Teagueless Hawks by two. Nets may win some unexpected games, but so will the Sixers, Lakers and Pelicans.

To be fair, though, any game that the Sixers win will be unexpected.

Mike

[snively]

Big game tonight. The Nets' defense has caught a lot of breaks in this streak of competence (Rockets shooting sub 25% on 30+ attempts from 3, most wide open; Sac missing Rudy Gay; GSW missing Klay Thompson; and Atlanta missing Teague and Bazemore), but Charlotte has nice offensive depth and bench group that should be very difficult for Brooklyn to contain.

So nice to see Charlotte finally put a decent offensive product on the floor. They've always been on my least watchable team list, but not this year.

[scotto1205]

Would it be a terrible idea to pitch a trade for joe Johnson? Give them  a future pick and maybe we could use a t/e to absorb the contract not sure if we have them left or not. I'm not really sure how the technicals work but he's going to win the a few games this year with his scoring and he would be a good veteran presence. What do you guys think?

[celticsclay]

Wow Nets score 32 in the first quarter and are still losing. That defense needs some serious work.

[SparzWizard]

Brooklyn doing well against the Hornets

[PhoSita]

Big game tonight. The Nets' defense has caught a lot of breaks in this streak of competence (Rockets shooting sub 25% on 30+ attempts from 3, most wide open; Sac missing Rudy Gay; GSW missing Klay Thompson; and Atlanta missing Teague and Bazemore), but Charlotte has nice offensive depth and bench group that should be very difficult for Brooklyn to contain.

So nice to see Charlotte finally put a decent offensive product on the floor. They've always been on my least watchable team list, but not this year.

Yeah, I've enjoyed watching Charlotte this year.

A lot of his it has to do with playing Marvin Williams at the 4, and giving plenty of time to Jeremy Lin.

Lin's one of the most underrated players in the league from my vantage point, I don't see why he's bounced around so much.  Any team could use him as their backup PG.



The Nets are dangerously close to having a competent starting 5 with RHJ giving them solid minutes (rebounding, defending) and Jack and Joe inching toward adequate efficiency.

[Quetzalcoatl]

The Nets really look like they want to surge.  We could really use a win from the Hornets tonight, should demoralize them nicely

[SHAQATTACK]

I like Honets chances .....if that little guard they got can tear it up .

Lopez is not just tall ....like KG , Durrant or Nerlins  , he is a giant individual .....he takes up a huge amount of court space.

[crimson_stallion]

Someone mentioned tankathon.com . Quick concise transparent look at the worst records in the league  who owns whos pick plus a draft simulator.

!#@*!$#@ Tankathon. Every time I run a sim based on our current #4, we end up as #5. On the plus side, that means that Tankathon is realistic.

I don't think he denied it, it just that the Nets barely beat and Teagueless Hawks by two. Nets may win some unexpected games, but so will the Sixers, Lakers and Pelicans.

To be fair, though, any game that the Sixers win will be unexpected.

Mike

Unless it's against the Nets.

Funnily enough, I actually feel like the Sixers (despite their currently better record) are more competitive.

I'm not being a smarty pants either, I actually really mean that.