Author Topic: Official 2015-16 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (21-59, 3rd slot as of 4/12)  (Read 700497 times)

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NOP wins 93-80-cousins will not play away game vs suns

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NOP wins 93-80-cousins will not play away game vs suns

Cousins wants us to get the best pick possible ....LOL

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I bet the Nets forum have no threads this year that are as watched , commented on and intense as this Blog thread ....LOL


Nets are a popular subject here,......we can't help it.   :angel:

I tried to find their forums on nets daily so I can drink their tears but I can't find them.

Their threads are few and far between .....a lot of these really bad teams have no game threads to speak of ......their BIG MARKET seems mighty small when they are so poorly run


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NOP wins 93-80-cousins will not play away game vs suns

Cousins wants us to get the best pick possible ....LOL
Even better; Rondo is pulling the strings behind the scenes in our favour, so that we can get the best possible pick ::)!
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Wow, the Nets were something awful without Lopez and Young today!! They got crushed by a depleted , poor, Pelicans team. They will not win another game this season, and if they move Lopez and Young, we could have a top 3 pick next year.

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This Suns team is terrible. Booker has promise, but he tries to do way too much and turns the ball over frequently. Alex Len is also terrible and has single-handedly lost several games for them in the last several months.
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Wow, the Nets were something awful without Lopez and Young today!! They got crushed by a depleted , poor, Pelicans team. They will not win another game this season, and if they move Lopez and Young, we could have a top 3 pick next year.

I think that with no incentive to lose, the Nets will bring in mid-level talent to surround Lopez and win 25-30 games. I'm not so excited yet

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Wow, the Nets were something awful without Lopez and Young today!! They got crushed by a depleted , poor, Pelicans team. They will not win another game this season, and if they move Lopez and Young, we could have a top 3 pick next year.

I think that with no incentive to lose, the Nets will bring in mid-level talent to surround Lopez and win 25-30 games. I'm not so excited yet

I think the opposite will happen. The new GM and coach aren't invested in the mistakes of the past regimes, they are much more likely to accept the situation and move on into a rebuild rather than linger in mediocrity for years. I see them trading Lopez and Young for picks and/or prospects on draft night and developing their youth next season.

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Wow, the Nets were something awful without Lopez and Young today!! They got crushed by a depleted , poor, Pelicans team. They will not win another game this season, and if they move Lopez and Young, we could have a top 3 pick next year.

I think that with no incentive to lose, the Nets will bring in mid-level talent to surround Lopez and win 25-30 games. I'm not so excited yet

Marks is a spur. I think he will sell those guys for picks. And try to build through the draft even without his own first these next two years. He still gets a pick from us next year. So only 2018 wil he not have a pick but he will be able to get at least one from dealing Lopez and young.

Marks won't make moves to be .500. That's not how the Spurs roll and he is a spur.


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Wow, the Nets were something awful without Lopez and Young today!! They got crushed by a depleted , poor, Pelicans team. They will not win another game this season, and if they move Lopez and Young, we could have a top 3 pick next year.

I think that with no incentive to lose, the Nets will bring in mid-level talent to surround Lopez and win 25-30 games. I'm not so excited yet

You guys DO realise that the Nets have space to sign a max free agent next year, right?

Not sure if I would take that route in their position in all honest - I think they have way too many missing pieces, and I don't think adding one person comes close to making up for it. 

But then again there is no rule to say that they need to be great right away - if they could add a max free agent this off-season then a core of Lopez + Young + [Max FA] could give that team a very nice foundation to build around.  It's enough to push their win total up significantly next year, and then the following season all they would need to do is add 2 or 3 good role players and they would be a legit playoff team again.

2016 is by far the most promising as far as the Brooklyn picks go.  I seriously doubt they will trade away Lope and Young given that both are young players locked in to long term deals (which will seem very reasonable under the new cap).  There's really not much incentive to trade those guys out...makes more sense to try their hand in free agency to see what they can get, and if they can't get a big name player...then they are in a tough spot.

The free agent market includes a lot of guys this year (like Horford, Beal, Conley, Barnes, Whiteside, Parsons, Rondo, Batum, Ryan Anderson, Joakhim Noah, Zaza Pachulia, Evan Fournier, Evan Turner, Jeremy Lin, Jared Sullinger) who could really make an impact in Brooklyn.  Plenty of opportunities for them to pick up a free agent who could push them further in the win column.

Plus you have the development of RHJ, who looks to have some upside and could become an impact player next year. 

If they were to add a solid PG (Conley, Rondo, Lin) then that along could push them forward in a big way.  Throw in a perimeter shooter like Ryan Anderson, Nicholas Batum, Chandler Parsons or Evan Fournier - they could really improve in a big wya.  Not enough to make a scene in the playoffs, but enough to dump their 2017 pick into the late lottery.

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You guys DO realise that the Nets have space to sign a max free agent next year, right?

Yup. So do the Warriors. The Celtics and Blazers can both sign two next summer. They're playoff teams that might be a dude away. Much more desirable situations. Houston will have room. Almost the entire NBA will. Nearly impossible a max dude is going to Brooklyn when they can get the same amount of money from highly competitive teams with all star caliber players.


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You guys DO realise that the Nets have space to sign a max free agent next year, right?

Yup. So do the Warriors. The Celtics and Blazers can both sign two next summer. They're playoff teams that might be a dude away. Much more desirable situations. Houston will have room. Almost the entire NBA will. Nearly impossible a max dude is going to Brooklyn when they can get the same amount of money from highly competitive teams with all star caliber players.

Only Cleveland and the clips cannot sign a max FA next year..
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The Nets will hopefully use that room to take on a bad contract or two.

What are some albatross contracts they could take on?

I could see them overpaying for Bazemore. Or giving certain guys $5 million more than they're worth.

The good news is that Billy King is gone and won't give out overpaying deals to save his job.
Marks will probably try and build this thing from the ground up.
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You guys DO realise that the Nets have space to sign a max free agent next year, right?

Yup. So do the Warriors. The Celtics and Blazers can both sign two next summer. They're playoff teams that might be a dude away. Much more desirable situations. Houston will have room. Almost the entire NBA will. Nearly impossible a max dude is going to Brooklyn when they can get the same amount of money from highly competitive teams with all star caliber players.

That might seem true on paper, but lets not forget that Carmelo forced his way to New York at a time when the franchise was a laughing stock. 

Deron Williams and Chris Paul signed with the New Jersey Nets (now Brooklyn Nets) and LA Clippers, respectively, when both teams were considered a borderline laughing stock.

Dwight Howard signed with Houston at a time when they looked like nothing close to a contender.

Al Jefferson signed with the Charlotte Bobcats.

Brook Lopez and Thad Young both signed with the Nets, even when it seemed pretty obvious the team had no hope of contending.

For many players, especially older vets, winning is the biggest lure of all.  But a lot of younger players are drawn to things like money, bright lights, and an opportunity to be the face of a franchise.  Brooklyn has a star (Lopez), a fringe star (Young), a position in the spotlight, and an owner who has no fear of spending money.  It's the type of location that could very easily surprise people and draw in a big name player.

I don't think Portland is any more appealing a destination then Brooklyn.  Lillard is clearly the #1 guy there, and anybody who joins that team (short of Durant) will instantly become second fiddle. 

Signing with the Warriors is a bad move if you are a young player who wants to build up your individual portfolio and make a name for yourself - anybody who wins a ring there will be seen as an afterthought and a 4th "tag along" guy.

Boston is a legitimately appealing place for young guys who want to make their mark in the league, but beyond that I could honestly see Brooklyn competing with a lot of destinations out there.  They aren't the ultimate spot for EVERY free agent, but I think they definitely have enough appeal to swing one or two key ones.

They don't really need to pull a huge name in order to screw up our draft pick either.  Lets say they sign Jeremy Lin, Evan Fournier and Jared Sullinger, for argument's sake.  Neither of those is a max contract guy, so they could probably sign all three pretty easily.  Fournier is exactly the type of guy who I feel would sign in Brooklyn - guy who has shown lots of promise, buried in a deep roster in Orlando, begging for the opportunity to get a consistent role and make a name for himself.  Likewise I could see Lin signing there too - looking at the team's he's played for recently, he doesn't seem to have a problem signing for mediocre teams.  Sully might love the opportunity to get a stating role where he's not competing with 2 or 3 other bigs for playing time.  That gives them a starting 5 of:

Lin
Fournier
Young
Sully
Lopez

That roster would fight hard for a playoff spot in the East...and it's not at all out of the realm of possibility that the Nets could get guys like that.

Lets say the Nets offer Sully $12M - $15M a year for 4 years.  Would Ainge match that?  I'm not sure, but it would be a pretty tough call.  I like Sully, but that's a LOT of money to pay for a guy who is that inconsistent and who has been questioned for years about his work ethic / health.  Nets don't seem like they'd have a problem with it, considering that they were happy to spend a fortune to tie up Lopez.

Of course this might not happen and the Nets might get nobody significant, and they might still fall bottom 6 next year.  But fact is that they definitely have the means to make a big turnaround next year if things fall their way.